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Pangloss62 09-08-2006 01:40 PM

AFA Fucktard
 
Thank goodness someone cares about our children and families.:)

CBS thumbs nose at rules with '9/11'

"9/11," which will be shown in prime time, contains a tremendous amount of hard-core profanity. CBS has stated it has not, and will not, make any cuts in the amount and degree of profanity.

CBS will ignore the law. The network is suing the FCC over the indecency law, saying it should be able to show whatever it desires whenever it desires. CBS wants no limits.

This is a test case to see how far CBS can go. If there is no outpouring of complaints from the public, it will go further the next time.

The profanity is so bad that CBS has warned affiliates that they could be subject to huge fines. The FCC says it will fine not only the networks, but also affiliates if the law is violated.

Under the new Broadcast Decency Act the $325,000 per incident could run into millions of dollars not only for the network but also for local affiliates.

CBS could very easily bleep out the profanity, but it refuses. The goal of CBS is to be able to show whatever it wants at any time.

The network wants no restraints on its programming. If it is allowed to get away with this, it will simply air even more profanity in the future.

This isn't an issue of censorship. It's an issue of responsibility to the public.

Donald E. Wildmon is founder and chairman of the American Family Association.

Elspode 09-08-2006 01:43 PM

Donald E Wildmon needs to perform autointercourse, then consume feces and expire.

skysidhe 09-08-2006 01:50 PM

What is this? I've been busy and out of the media loop.

Griff 09-08-2006 01:56 PM

Is this the first case of the 9/11 card being played to increase liberty?

Pangloss62 09-08-2006 02:02 PM

What is this?
 
They made a documentary/movie called 9/11 and it features a lot of dialouge from first responders, probably stuff like "Holy living fuck! A plane went into one of the fucking towers!!" Or "Jesus H. Fucking Christ in A Chicken Basket!!! A plane went into the tower!!!"

Shit like that.

Some people think it's in poor taste. :neutral:

Flint 09-08-2006 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff
Is this the first case of the 9/11 card being played to increase liberty?

What is that, like, seven levels of irony ???

Pangloss62 09-08-2006 02:17 PM

Liberty
 
Quote:

Is this the first case of the 9/11 card being played to increase liberty?
Indeed. Soon Katie Couric will be self-pleasuring herself on camera with a big CBS dildo. Like Wildmon said:

"If it is allowed to get away with this, it will simply air even more profanity in the future.":eek:

Flint 09-08-2006 02:19 PM

If nobody defined "bad words" as "bad" then that would also solve the problem.

9th Engineer 09-08-2006 02:21 PM

I thought the big issue not too long ago was too much censorship. Even people who were offended by that little SB halftime slip were told to shove it and stop being such prudes. Now everyone is worried that CBS wants to show more? So what, "just don't let your kids watch it" as the argument has always been before.



Prudes:p

headsplice 09-08-2006 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
What is that, like, seven levels of irony ???

Nope. You get your seventh level of irony when you master pastiche, the blank-faced (a.k.a., upper-Midwestern) irony.
6th level irony does allow you to cast 'Smite Dillhole' an unlimited number of times per day, though.

Happy Monkey 09-08-2006 02:26 PM

Yay CBS.

This is a test case to see how far CBS can go. If there is no outpouring of complaints from the public, it will go further the next time.

Is there some way to register "uncomplaints" with the FCC to counter AFA campaigns?

rkzenrage 09-08-2006 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
If nobody defined "bad words" as "bad" then that would also solve the problem.


glatt 09-08-2006 02:33 PM

Go CBS! Good to see them standing up to the puritanical FCC.

But I'm still not going to watch what will almost certainly be a crappy made for TV movie.

Flint 09-08-2006 02:33 PM

@rkzenrage: Dude, that's, like, the second time I've seen you do that.
We agree on alot of shit, apparently, but I just get there and say it before you have a chance!

Spexxvet 09-08-2006 03:00 PM

It's funny - didn't Howard Stern work for CBS, and didn't they refuse to support his first amendment rights?

Pangloss62 09-08-2006 03:17 PM

What they said.
 
According to a partial transcript of the show I read on the Internets, some of the radio and cellphone transmissions were:


Holy shit! A plane crashed into the tower!
Holy shit! Another plane went into the other tower!
Holy fuck! Another plane went into the other tower!
What the fuck? There's smoke pouring out of the World Trade Center.
Holy fuck! There's smoke pouring out of the World Trade Center.
Holy Shit! People are jumping out of the tower!
Holy blessed fuck! They're jumping out of the fucking tower!
Holy shit! The tower is collapsing!!
Holy shit! I'm getting the fuck out of here!
Holly living fuck! The second tower is collapsing!
Holy fuck! I'm getting fucking out of here!
Somebody send a fucking ambulance!
Holy shit! I'm scared as fuck!
Where's that fucking ambulance!
The ambulance is fucking buried under a pile of fucking rubble!
Holy fuck!
What the fuck!
Fuck!
Shit!

Seriously folks, That whole thing REALLY WAS fucking awful:mad: :sniff:

Elspode 09-08-2006 09:27 PM

See, that's the problem with Godless America. No one thinks about how they will be portrayed by history - or, in this case, CBS - when they're expressing themselves over other Americans in the process of being smote by Jehovah.

If CBS is smart, they'll run a bumper that shows Janet Jackson whipping out her tit again, just to rub Wildmon's face in it some more.

footfootfoot 09-09-2006 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pangloss62
Indeed. Soon Katie Couric will be self-pleasuring herself on camera with a big CBS dildo.

I may start watching tv again in that case.

xoxoxoBruce 09-09-2006 01:27 PM

Well, we've already seen her other hole. ;)

rkzenrage 09-10-2006 03:50 PM

Flint... yup.

JayMcGee 09-10-2006 06:36 PM

totally gobsmacked by the yanks double-standards......

you can show, endlessly, the deaths of hundreds of people (as the planes hit - maybe your censor think the planes are full of crash-test-dummies?) and then of thousands as the towers collapse (don't worry, they're just polystyrene like in Star Treck)...

but an honest to goodness reaction like 'what the fuck just happened' (answer - the world changed) and you all act like Mary Whitehouse & the Crusade of Light.

As a nation, you really do need to grow up.

Clodfobble 09-10-2006 06:58 PM

Yes Jay, and in the meantime, I can hold you personally responsible for the BNP, correct? As a nation, you really need to quit being such an ass.

JayMcGee 09-10-2006 07:46 PM

I wasn't being personal..... but if you want to get that way...

you mention the BNP..... but I bet your parents thought the KKK was the saviour of the American way....burn those niggahs, yes sirreee.....

hey, blackwoman, I don't care how pregnant you are, get up off of that seat and let me sit down.


That's within your parents' memory-span.

Aliantha 09-10-2006 09:10 PM

Gees Jay...and anyone else who happens to agree with either of the two preceeding posts, address the topic instead of attacking the poster...or the country they happen to come from.

Also, while it is certainly true that the US has had some serious social issues to do with civil rights in the past and continues to do so, I'd like to know of one country in the world that doesn't. Let's not get started on British Imperialism/colonialism huh? ;)

Aliantha 09-10-2006 09:15 PM

As to the topic at hand, I don't see anything wrong with airing honest reactions to a terrible tragedy. What I think is more concerning is the amount of gratuitous profanity comming out of movies, comedy and every day conversations. I for one am guilty of having a potty mouth and believe that a few carefully placed profanities can go a long way towards making a point every now and then, but they're not necessary in every forum of discussion.

9/11 was a tragedy. People reacted in honesty because of that tragedy. I see no reason to censor honest reactions.

footfootfoot 09-10-2006 09:33 PM

While I agree with JayMcGee's double standards gobsmackery I'll just say this:

It's ok for me to call my sister a whore, but not for you. (Not an exact translation of Clodfobble's post, but then, she's from Texas)

footfootfoot 09-10-2006 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha

9/11 was a tragedy. People reacted in honesty because of that tragedy. I see no reason to censor honest reactions.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Aliantha 09-10-2006 09:38 PM

Please explain your confusion. I was addressing the post and suggesting that I don't think people's honest reactions should be censored.

footfootfoot 09-10-2006 09:46 PM

Sorry Aliantha, I was making a joke about censoring profanity.

At least I was attempting to make a joke. I did wink my eye, but you didn't see it, since you are in Oz.

On closer inspection, I'm not entirely sure I was being funny either.

;)

footfootfoot 09-10-2006 09:47 PM

profanity= honest reactions. In my case all too frequently

Aliantha 09-10-2006 09:59 PM

It's ok foot. I realize we all have difficulties understanding one another sometimes. *winks now*

Aliantha 09-10-2006 10:02 PM

Actually, I guess that's the real problem. One persons honest reaction is at one level while another persons is at another. The question is, why should one persons reactions be more valuable than anothers eg. If one person reacts by swearing, should that be bleeped out in deference to another persons finer sensibilities, or should that person simply realize that it takes all types to make the world go around and whether they like it or not, some of us swear like troopers?

Aliantha 09-10-2006 10:03 PM

Oh and, I don't buy the argument that 'children might be watching'. If a program is not suitable for children to watch, then it's up to the parent/guardian to censor the childs viewing time. Full stop.

Clodfobble 09-10-2006 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot
While I agree with JayMcGee's double standards gobsmackery I'll just say this:

It's ok for me to call my sister a whore, but not for you. (Not an exact translation of Clodfobble's post, but then, she's from Texas)

I totally agree that the censorship of language in this case is retarded... I just resent having the position of the AFA painted as the position of the entire nation. There's a reason the thread title is "AFA Fucktard" and not "AFA, American Heroes!"

You can call my sister a whore, just don't try to tell me the whole country unanimously agrees with you. :)

footfootfoot 09-10-2006 10:08 PM

I know. I think it's a bunch of shit. My wife and others think it was more obscene for Clinton to get a blowjob than for bush to OK the bombing and killing of thousands of people.

On the other hand, I'm told Freud said: "Everything is about sex except for sex. Sex is about agression."

So maybe they were right.

footfootfoot 09-10-2006 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble
I totally agree that the censorship of language in this case is retarded... I just resent having the position of the AFA painted as the position of the entire nation. There's a reason the thread title is "AFA Fucktard" and not "AFA, American Heroes!"

You can call my sister a whore, just don't try to tell me the whole country unanimously agrees with you. :)

Actually, I just got off the phone with the whole country and they said your sister was "easy", they didn't say she was a whore.

footfootfoot 09-10-2006 10:14 PM

But more to the point, Clodfobble, and this is one of the things I admire about you, is that you stay on task. You are not given to fits of wild tangentry and you reminded me that this thread was originaly about AFA fucktards.

I actually had to go back to the beginning and remind myself of what this was all about.

Ironically, when tested for reading comprehension I consistently scored 98-99%.

What the hell has happened?

All you youngsters should let this be a lesson to you.

headsplice 09-11-2006 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot
All you youngsters should let this be a lesson to you.

What was the lesson? Don't smoke so much weed? :joint:

Sundae 09-11-2006 02:45 PM

Do you have a watershed in the US (i.e. a time after which children are not presumed to be watching?) In the UK it is 21.00, and if your children are up after that time (or if you record programmes for them to watch) you are deemed responsible if they are disturbed by what they see.

I don't think I'd want young children to see detailed footage of 9/11 - the swearing would be the least of my worries. Show it unedited (at least as far as swearing is concerned) after children have gone to bed and let parents make their own minds up.

I know I have grown up in "the Nanny state" but I do think giving parents control over what their children watch is important.

If you don't have a watershed then show it uncut anyway - parents should know well enough to monitor their children's viewing if anything can be shown at any time.

Pangloss62 09-11-2006 03:05 PM

Those Brits
 
Quote:

In the UK it is 21.00, and if your children are up after that time (or if you record programmes for them to watch) you are deemed responsible if they are disturbed by what they see.
That makes complete sense. That's why I like the BBC. It just blows my mind how better their news is, even better than our NPR or PBS (our public networks). And BBC 7 has great shows with plenty of profanity (and humor!). They just say "The following contains strong language." In America, the TV IS the "nanny state" for many parents, but they're unwilling to say no or control what the kids watch. Worse, rather than complain about gratuitous violence, they get all upset over a nipple, and a covered nipple at that.:neutral:

Undertoad 09-11-2006 03:12 PM

There is such a principle in US broadcasting, but only to over-the-air broadcast. Cable and satellite can roughly do whatever they like, but try to have a happy and broad customer base by generally putting the harsher stuff on later, without a specific rule of thumb.

Aliantha 09-11-2006 07:46 PM

Australian TV is similar to British in that certain things are not permitted to be shown before certain times and that includes cable. With the locking feature on cable TV there's no reason for kids to be watching anything inappropriate anyway.

Spexxvet 09-12-2006 09:28 AM

I'd be willing to negotiate. I'll give them no bad words before 10pm if they'll agree to no God talk after 7am.

headsplice 09-12-2006 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet
I'd be willing to negotiate. I'll give them no bad words before 10pm if they'll agree to no God talk after 7am.

Would you entertain a motion to move those in an hour (9pm and 8am, respectively)? Then I'm on board. Let's go to the FCC!


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