John Kerry taking dubious page from Howard Dean's book
 

John Kerry seems congenitally incapable of saying the right thing.

November seventh is going to be a fine opportunity for me to vote my contempt of the Democratic Party. They aren't smart enough to keep me interested.

Yeah, thems sure aint smart 'nuff to deal with them nukular arms in that ko-ree-ah, or nuffin' like that.

Ibram...were you deliberately taking off GWB or was it an accident? lol

They certainly weren't: look how President Bill, D after his name, got pwnd by the DPRK. Not smart at all, in the end.

Most politicians aren't that smart...regardless of which side they bat for.

That's how it looks. In their defense however, it's noted that In politics, sometimes all that is presented is a choice of blunders.

Success in politics comes from blunder recovery. Speed of recovery is not necessarily the cardinal virtue.

UG...if your system over there is anything at all like the one we have here - which I believe it is - every minister (you call them senators etc) has a host of staff who 'advise' him/her on policy decisions. The advisers are the smart ones.

The only thing a member of parliament really has to have is the ability to speak well in public.

John Kerry did a great job of saying the right thing today! He finally stopped sugarcoating everything and told the Bush administration off in so many words. He told the truth, and laid it out there, and made himself look great, and Bush look badly (not that this takes much effort).

Nobody in Iraq is defending America. The war in Iraq has created MORE not less terrorism. The war in Iraq is both unconstitutional and a cluster fuck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGwc-9pmmbM&eurl=

I do believe a spine is slowly developing among the Dems. Dean, Clinton and now Kerry.

Why didn't Kerry talk this way during the Presidential election? Why's he getting a spine now?

Another case of twisting what was said, and politicizing it.

What he said was that if you don't study, you'll grow to become a stupid president who gets the country stuck in an illadvised war.

No, that's not what he said. That's what his handlers said they told him to say, after the fact.

At least when Dubya mangles things most people can tell what he meant to say.

I guess Yale didn't make Kerry all that damn smart....he ended up getting stuck in Vietnam. ;-)

Is that a spine? It's definately a bone growth, and it's near the skull.

Oh, so it wasn't political when he said it. That's a pretty comical assertion.

No kidding. I was making fun of the repubican response to any Democrat criticism: "why are the Democrats politicising the Weldon investigation?" "why are the Democrats politicising the Iraq war". Glad you agree.

You're so driven to find validation you often see it when it isn't there. This isn't the first time.

Kerry's statement was already political, and it was only twisted by his handlers. It's his claim that the Republicans have politicized it, and he's not kidding.

As far as we can tell, anyway. Or maybe he's joking again. Hard to tell.

MaggieL knows all, sees all....

really?
Translate for me, please.

That's what I said. Are you going way out of your way to pick a fight?

Shit, that's easy. He's saying:
"The tide is turning so much in Iraq that even a desert boy like me can see it.

Maggie, stop being a Bush apologist. Bush is the single worst scumbag to ever befoul the oval office. He is guilty of treason, and he's a military deserter.

Each and every word Kerry said was the truth, and a jerk like Bush isn't worthy to question comments about the military made by a decorated combat veteran and neither are you.

Those who join the military tend to be less educated. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact. Smart people don't sign up to get shot at in an unconstitutional, unwarranted, and unprovoked war in which nobody is defending America and everyone taking part has violated their oath.

So why is he respinning it? Can't have it both ways. Either he really meant it or he was misunderstood.

I wouldn't dream of it. I can't get you to read, how could I get you to listen?

Besides, I said "most people". That doesn't include you.

You mean like "this administration will stay the course" and "this adminiistration has never been stay the course"?

And people who vote Big-L tend to be more educated too. But it doesn't make them smarter.

The funniest thing about the embroglio may be Kerry conflating academic success with intelligence. Especially given his record as an undergrad.

Kerry's not decorated anymore, he gave them back.

He was decorated. Tossing the medals does not mean you weren't decorated. Kerry didn't respin anything, he tried to stop the Bush administration from doing the spinning. Kerry said it the second time the same way he did the first. He has more honor, integrity, honesty, and character than the entire Bush administration combined.

Bush is a disgrace to the office, and to all Americans. He should be tried and executed for the treason he's openly admitted to.

Kerry at his very worst is a better man than Bush at his very best.

What he actually said and what his handlers said he was supposed to say are *not* the same thing.

I caught Kerry's act the first time around in the 1970's...and he hasn't improved since then.

I'd like to see the Bush supporters try to spin this one.

And Bush managed to avoid it, *and* become President, thus proving that serving your country makes you stupid no matter how you slice it.

*NOTE* This is not intended as a slight to any of the wonderful people who serve their country. This is intended as a slight to moron politicians.

From drudgereport.com

VIDEO: KERRY WARNS STUDENTS: EDUCATE YOURSELF, OR YOU'LL GET STUCK IN IRAQ...

VIDEO: BUSH: KERRY COMMENTS 'INSULTING AND SHAMEFUL'...
Iowa candidate asks Kerry to cancel visit...

*Kerry Pulls Out Of Minnesota Appearance...
**No Casey/Kerry In Philly...
TN - Harold Ford asks Kerry to apologize...
McCaskill in Mo. Asks, Too...
MORE DEMS PILE ON...
VIDEO: IMUS TO KERRY: 'Please stop it. Stop talking. Go home, get on the bike'...

Thinking of new ways to harm America doesn't necessarily mean you're going to implement them. You might just possibly have to figure out what the threats are before you can prevent someone else from implementing them.

That's just the spin his handlers came up with after the fact.

If more people did educate themselves about what's really going on in the world then people like Bush wouldn't be in power.

Whether it was a joke or not doesn't change the fact that what Kerry said was a fact.

People who vote for Bush may know what's going on in the world, and that's the way they like it. Sad.

Well you never know. Maybe if the military get sick of being used as cannon fodder they may decide to instigate a coupe, then you'll all be glad you're armed and dangerous...cept those of you who don't own guns...then you'll just be dangerous, cause deadly force doesn't always come from a gun. ;)

I agree with everything Kerry said and I applaud how he defended himself from the Republicans trying to accuse him of insulting the troops, but this photo is still funny so I'll share.

lmao...now THAT'S funny!

The average military person's IQ is 8 points above the average American's.

Well that just goes to prove they rig the tests doesn't it?

Either that or pretty much everyone in the US is a bit below par. ;)

This site is always interesting to look at.

Also, have a look at this wikipedia site.

Just be glad you're not from Equatorial Guinea!

Chris Matthews transcript

Isolated comment:
More complete version including preface to comment:
I think he was joking. His preceding comment is a similar Bush-is-dum lefty line of the sort that did not win him the election two years ago.

US Army Lowers Recruiting Standards Due To Iraq

Lower standards help Army meet recruiting goal

Maybe it's just a small slip, but it's still a relaxation of the previous standards. How much further do you think it'll go?

The articles you are referencing are only one branch of the US Armed Forces. The USA Today article suggests that 2,600 soldiers were recruited who otherwise would not have made the cut. Out of 450,000 soldiers, perhaps they lowered the average a point.

Unlikely to be even that much I'd say. From my perspective it's more about the fact that the military in any way is willing to compromise it's standards simply for the sake of gathering recruits.

On the other hand, they need people to fight the wars, so I can see the difficulty they're facing.

J. Foot-in-Mouth Kerry has lost the military vote. Again.

Schadenfreude, Goetterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium...

If you understand what he's said he's not even implying that people in the military are stupid.

He's implying that it's stupid decisions that put the military into wars. Specifically the war in Iraq.

However, if people are too stupid to see that, then I guess maybe they should be better educated...or at least learn how to critically analyse text.

His point was that BUSH is stupid, not the military.

Though since Bush is the Commander in Chief, the entity that is the Military is stupid, not neccessarily the people IN it.

They (the totalitarian-symp Left) told us Reagan was stupid too. Apparently on the grounds that Reagan conceived what no President before him had: that communism was to be defeated, and how it should be done.

George W. Bush is clearly thinking the same way. I applaud this. When totalitarians no longer exist, how much of the world's misery will have fled? The big problem is one of logistics: bringing up enough bullets, shells, napalm, perhaps nukes, to wipe them out. I do not care how they die, so long as they either die or convert to genuine democrats. If you're a totalitarian, you have zero business in politics. Leave rulership to people more enlightened than yourself -- and less sociopathic.

I mean, wouldn't that be heaven on Earth? (I'm not persuaded of that, either, but it can hardly fail to be closer.)

communism is the flip side of democracy. If you don't have communism, there is no democracy. If you remove communism as it is now, then what will you do? Start telling people who are 'less democratic' than you that they should choose to be 'more democratic'?

Obviously Regan failed in his quest as will Bush or whatever government comes after his.

Communism is not the "flip side." It is a classist, ancient European style of oppression of the populace by the rulers. American democracy, as merely the latest effort at democracy, preexisted communism.

Half-democracy is more than half a dictatorship. There is no reason to object to getting or causing greater and greater democracy anywhere. The more nearly a society approaches a libertarian democracy of some description -- ours, and yours, are not direct democracies, but republics of the democratic persuasion (republics tend that way), owing generally to the scale of the endeavor: we delegate the political power that comes of the people, the electorate, to our sundry Representatives, Senators, and Members of Parliament.

What's the average Americans IQ when you take out all the mentally deficient? Last I knew the army wasn't quite desperate enough to let the mentally retarded in while Burger King does.

Many people argue that even with a democracy 'the people' still have little or no voice and that decisions are made based not on what the people want, but on what the government tells them they want.

John Kerry isn't running for office right now, and even if he were, he wouldn't lose the military vote. In fact MOST of the veterans I've spoken to in the last few day (a few dozen) agree with him, especially the combat vets.

George W. Bush doesn't think the same way as Reagan, he thinks the same way as the communists Reagan wanted to beat.....if he thinks at all, which his supporters do not.

I don't think these guys got it, either, but that's okay. It was a dumb thing to say, period, no matter what he meant. Doofus.

Unfortunately that's not what he actually said.

Since he claims that he meant something other than what he actually said, misunderstandings are hardly something you can blame on the listener's lack of education.

Kerry was originally acclaimed for being a magnificent orator...he seems to have trouble working without a script now.

I think he's a cargo-cult JFK wannabe.

Maggie reads the news wires.

You know that old PSA..."Reading is Fun-damental".

What he did say can be interpreted in the way he intended (George Bush got stuck in Iraq, figuratively), and that interpretation is supported by the context.

Taken out of context, that meaning certainly isn't the first one that comes to mind, so it's good he clarified.