Cops hate hugs...
 

You want a perfect example of why I think US cops are a problem that need drastic measures to fix them... I am talking serious neutering NOW. A complete return to strict Constitutional guidelines ONLY for their behavior at ALL times under ANY conditions. Which, of course, is what their behavior should have always been, to begin with...
These fools will put a dog into a car with no probable cause for an illegal search, saying it is not a cop, then treat someone who, rightly, defends themselves against one of those dogs as a "cop killer"... it is out of hand and must stop!
This is a perfect example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4



Sometimes, a hug is all what we need. Free hugs is a real life controversial story of Juan Mann, A man whos sole mission was to reach out and hug a stranger to brighten up their lives.

In this age of social disconnectivity and lack of human contact, the effects of the Free Hugs campaign became phenomenal.

As this symbol of human hope spread accross the city, police and officials ordered the Free Hugs campaign BANNED. What we then witness is the true spirit of humanity come together in what can only be described as awe inspiring.

In the Spirit of the free hugs campaign, PASS THIS TO A FRIEND and HUG A STRANGER! After all, If you can reach just one person...

Music by Sick Puppies. (Visit http://sickpuppies.net or http://myspace.com/sickpuppies for the music)
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PS. The response to this video has been nothing short of overwhelming and touching. Hugs to every single one of you who messaged. There has been thousands of emails from all over the world by people seeking to participate in the Free Hugs campaign and asking for permission. You do not need permission. This is the peoples movement, this is *your* movement. With nothing but your bare hands you can make THE difference.

Imagine all the people.

*big hug for rkz* Merry Christmas!

(fuck the coppers. They're almost as bad as the marines. ;) )

Thanks, hugs back at cha'!

They're almost as bad as the marines.

FUCK YOU FOR THAT !!!!

Are you a marine zippy?

FUCKING A SKIPPY !!!!!!!!!!

As they said at graduation ,
" A Marine you are NOW , and a Marine you WILL ALLWAYS BE !!!"

Signed-up, got in and discharged before getting to Paris because of my arthritis.

Good for you Zippy. I apologise of any offence however unintended it may have been.

I'll check with my copper friends and see if they're pissed off too.

Anyway, I was only making a joke. Sorry you didn't see the funny side of it. I guess all of us have different views about what's funny and what not.

btw...are you a good fuck? ;)

If cops participate in entrapment (they offer to sell drugs or sex) or participate in illegal searches, I don't give a fuck if they are pissed-off.
Probable cause is probable cause, illegal search is illegal search, a dog is a cop or it is not. Driving through a neighborhood is not probable cause & we are NOT in a war.
You cannot be at war with your own people.

My dear , I would say that I am a VERRY good fuck , I have made a VERRRRY experenced PI chicks toes curl , and then she kept me captive for 2 days , but that was in my younger days ,,,,


Now as to the Marine comment , YES I was in the Marines , I was a grunt , a ground pounder !!!
And Yes I take offence to your comments !!! No JOKE !!!

Why do you dislike the Marines so much?

I don't dislike the marines rkz. It was more a joke about their 'over the top' type attitude. Similar to that of some cops I've known.

I do recognise that marines along with other elite military and police forces put themselves in danger for the sake of the lifestyle I live on a regular basis and for that I am grateful.

Once again, I apologise for any offence, however, as I have mentioned, it was a joke.

Maybe it's a cultural thing. I've made the same (or similar types of) joke to aussie soldiers and cops and they've laughed.

Just Rag'n on the Jarheads , welll I can deal with that !!
Sorry if I jumped when I didn't need to , just a Marine responce !!
Elimmenate the threat !!!

Got it. :P

Oh well, we're even then. lol

No, I meant, I understand... makes sense to me now.

Frankly, I think the hugging strangers bit is freaky, and contains within it an opportunity for frotteurism (look it up), but if the hugs are only provided to people who consent, no problem.

Any type of touching without consent is assault.

I'm not sure where the linkage between illegal search and illegal hugging comes in, though.
I think you gotta wind it back a few notches, there, rzen.

I take it you did not watch the video... that is the only way you could have gotten that it was touching without consent.

It also seems that you did not read all of the first post. Try not to tail-post, it wastes people's time.

It's not a tail post. You never made the connection between the unlinked dog story and the hug video/story, except they both piss you off. :confused:

Any idea why they banned the hugs? And why 10,000 signatures (the target) made a difference?

It was a very sweet video and did make me feel warm and fuzzy inside - but I have no desire to hug a stranger. I'm not honestly sure anyone would appreciate me shrinking away from them and not really wanting contact...

From the video, I did not get that they were "going after" anyone for a hug.
What I got was that it was more of an open offer and not really more about the physical contact as the Idea of our isolationist trend.
The cops/dog part of the post was due to the banning of the activity, which was none of the cops damn business.
I am often stating that cops need to remember their DAMN PLACE, which they have long forgotten. Using dogs in cars where the owner has refused a search, where the cop has no probable cause is strictly illegal.
They try to pretend that the dog is not a cop, but if you defend yourself against the dog (which anyone should do) you are treated as and called a cop-killer/beater...
It was just an example of how police have decided that some of our basic rights, illegal search and seizure and probable cause, just are not really needed any longer.
This, the banning of an offer for a free hug, is an extreme example of how cops have lost sight of who they work for.
"Protect and serve" means the State now.
It is time to take our nation back.

I found the video interesting from a sociological standpoint.

Only freaks (and teen girls) hugged the freaks.

Yes, I did notice that the video only showed consent. That doesn't mean all instances of contact was consensual. I also pointed out the possibility of sexualized contact, even with consent for "just" the hug.

You are right... I am sure they jumped a bunch of people off camera... makes perfect sense.
We are all a bunch of perverts hippies out in the world, especially those who tape it and post it on the internet... how logical!!!!
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Was the story re dogs Australian as well? Otherwise there isn't a connection.

Are we sure this isn't simply a promotion for the song?
Any Australian posters hear about this at the time?

I've seen Aussie cops do it... I have also seen them just search the damn car.
Yes, I am sure it is not just a promotion for the song. I spoke with someone who knows one of the originators of the action, it has caught on and has actually been continued elsewhere and in other countries.

i like the people that go running and leap into his arms. and the little girl was sweet too.

cops have to be careful, so i can see them resisting a hug. also, they tend to be ADD types, and too macho to hug a hippie. makes sense

See? No overreaction. Not explosive.

I wouldn't have considered myself a threat. Actually, I was under the impression that marines and their counterparts were highly trained and rarely made mistakes. :)

I had to read that twice to make sure it did not, indeed, read "Effeminate the threat!"

Cops over here carry guns, so it'd be highly unlikely for them to hug anyone, children included. The safety risks are just too high.

I've been hugged by a cop, on more than one occasion. The vest is a little strange, but overall, it's not a bad experience.

It's true, the "Kevlar undershirt" does feel a little odd. It has a sort of leaden, faintly flexible resistance.

Worse, if they're wearing the trauma plate like they're spoasta.

*hugs*

I can honestly say if I were holding a sign offering "free hugs" and some cop decided to ban my sitting there holding the sign trying to bring some, much needed cheer into the world... I would have a new offer for him.

Doesn't an active attempt to provoke a negative reaction so that you can get medieval on someone's buttocks set you back a couple miles on the road to enlightenment or something?

Nope... because I would not do this just to be a pain in the ass to a cop.
Though I bitch a great deal about cops, I'm actually a HUGE fan of the ten-or-so good ones.
That is why the majority fucked ones piss me off so badly.
*Hugs back Phil*
I hope everyone had a good holiday. Mine was mixed.

The vast majority of police officers are good, honorable men. Its just the negative ones seem to get all the press making them all look bad. Thanks to them for making (at least) my world a safer place.

the vast majority of police officers are bad, its just the positive ones cant stay the distance, because when they speak up about corruption, abuse, institutionalised racism, sexism etc., they dont get back-up when they call in for it.

Hmmmm. I have no doubt there are bad police officers, in the same way there are bad soldiers. Human nature dictates that the wrong people will be drawn to professions where they can mis-use power.

But the vast majority?

My Mum worked for the police for over 15 years - my experience of the police is of hard working, dedicated and reasonably fair-minded people - bearing in mind they deal with the dregs of society. They were all to the right of me politically speaking, but I rarely hold that against anyone, especially if they are the people I would turn to if I was attacked, raped, burgled etc.

(This does refer specifically to British police - I didn't want to enter the discussion when it referred to American or Australian cops as I have no personal experience with them)

Milgram anyone? Whenever someone gets power over another human, they become corrupt. Only a select few can avoid these forces.

They have to remain in control of every situation because things can get beyond their control very quickly. That's why they react aggressively to any resistance to their authority. Anyone that tries to do anything, even reason with them, other than obey, causes them to fear losing control.
They don't know you, they don't know if you're dangerous, so they have to assume you (and everyone) are. Sure, they are mostly A types, but their lives are on the line, every day.
I'm not excusing illegal behavior but try to understand where the attitude comes from.

When I Give public hugs, do I have to ask for proof of age (18+) to prevent child molestation charges? :confused:

You don't actually spend a lot of time with police in a good way, do you?

no .. i have to train the knuckleheads to be professional when dealing with drug users, dealers, prostitutes and pimps.
i very much understand what Sundae Girl and XOBruce are saying, but all of my dealings with the police has only re-inforced my dislike of them.
how bout you? squeaky clean and wholesome or got some background? ;)

I've known a few coppers in my time. Probably more than the average joe gets to know. My godfather is one in fact, and several close friends also.

One of them works for IA. Another drug squad. Another is a serg at the local cop shop.

They're not corrupt and they don't abuse power. In fact, sometimes they suffer huge emotional burdens because of the things they're confronted with on a day to day basis.

Cops have a persona which shields them from these things somewhat, but it doesn't mean they're power hungry and it doesn't make them corrupt.

You must have watched Serpico too many times - its a movie. IRL the VAST MAJORITY of police officers I have ever known or met were honorable, honest, hardworking and reasonable. Thanks to every one of them.

I'm sure if you get one bad cop the rest will slowly become corrupt too. You can't look at one force and decide that cops are bad or good, you have to look at different areas before you even graze that statement.

excellent film but out of date.

That was my point, Phil.

my experiences are very much up to date.

If you enforce corrupt "laws" with corrupt methods, no matter how "accepted", you are corrupt by default.

Hey, you can't pin corrupt laws on the cops...that's YOUR responsibility. You certainly can't be suggesting they pick and choose which laws to enforce?

As for "corrupt methods", if it's an individual officer (or small group), doing this outside of department policy, they should be fired and possibly prosecuted. However, if they are doing what they are told the problem is not the cop, it's management. Right, tw?:D

In the case of corrupt leadership, it's once again your responsibility to correct that......they work for you.

They do it all the time, cops don't bust every jaywalker they see do they now? Easy.
If an officer sees a law is illegal, like searching a car with no probable cause with a dog... he does not have to do it. He/she can simply say, I had no probable cause on their report and no one can say jack to it. Easy.
A cop came into my home in college, doing a survey, my roommates pot was next to the couch, he did not bust us, choice. Easy.

Easy, but not right. Especially when the decision to be selective is political. :(

Singling drugs out so heavily is selectively political... same thing.
You'll get more time on a drug charge than raping a kid... fuck that. That is politics, definitely not ethics.