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Flint 02-02-2007 01:56 PM

Red "Delicious" Apples
 
Are total shite. Damn the evil conglomeration of pretentious grocers who devised this abomination. Damn them, I say!

glatt 02-02-2007 02:01 PM

I am pretty sure that red delicious apples are the worst apple there is that are still intended for casual eating and not cooking with a pound of sugar.

Gala is the best supermarket apple for eating. Golden delicious can also be pretty damn good.

Elspode 02-02-2007 02:07 PM

I seem to remember Red Delicious having been more tasty in the distant past. Now, they are absolutely tasteless, like eating wet cardboard pulp or something. WTF? How do you genetically engineer the taste out of an apple, and why?

glatt 02-02-2007 02:11 PM

Oh yeah, and Fujis are good too.

Shawnee123 02-02-2007 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 312431)
I am pretty sure that red delicious apples are the worst apple there is that are still intended for casual eating and not cooking with a pound of sugar.

Gala is the best supermarket apple for eating. Golden delicious can also be pretty damn good.


AGREED...I love the Gala apples. One of our markets has these beautiful Galas...another has shriveled, crappy looking ones (Wally World.) They have a Braeburn that looks like a Gala but I don't care for the taste.
Red Delish is too sweet. Get a Gala!

Clodfobble 02-02-2007 02:18 PM

Granny Smith apples are the only acceptable kind. All the other species are tools of the devil.

Elspode 02-02-2007 02:18 PM

Granny Smith's are wonderful as well. I like a good tart.

I mean, a good, tart, apple.

Shawnee123 02-02-2007 02:20 PM

Granny Smith apples make me

Clodfobble 02-02-2007 02:23 PM

That's why you should always eat them with peanut butter to take the edge off. :yum:

Flint 02-02-2007 02:26 PM

"Fujis are good too" [/mocking effeminate voice]

Gentleman, the time for talk is over. Now is the time for action.

Shawnee123 02-02-2007 02:26 PM

Hmmmm, never tried that! Will do!

Shawnee123 02-02-2007 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint (Post 312445)
"Fujis are good too" [/mocking effeminate voice]

Gentleman, the time for talk is over. Now is the time for action.


You crack my mind up!

Happy Monkey 02-02-2007 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode (Post 312433)
WTF? How do you genetically engineer the taste out of an apple, and why?

Breed for looks and long shelf-life and ignore how taste is affected.

Griff 02-02-2007 02:33 PM

compromise: Grannie Smith for pies, Gala and Fuji for eating, and Red Delicious for compost.

Cloud 02-02-2007 02:34 PM

it isn't so much even the taste--it's the texture. That mushy, grainy,icky stuff--like eating sawdust.

Green apples are much nicer. Organic apples are usually tastier, too, even if sometimes not as pretty.

Flint 02-02-2007 02:35 PM

"...I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore! Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore! Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis [and the apples]. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it:I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"

Shawnee123 02-02-2007 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint (Post 312453)
"...I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore! Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore! Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis [and the apples]. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it:I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"

Sincerely,

Johnny Appleseed

Elspode 02-02-2007 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 312454)
Sincerely,

Johnny Appleseed

...the Mad Prophet of the Orchards.

WabUfvot5 02-02-2007 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 312442)
Granny Smith apples make me

Pucker? Try under ripe crab apples sometime.

rkzenrage 02-02-2007 02:45 PM

I agree with Cloud.
Great flick Flint... some idiot will probably remake it next week.
I'm a Washington fan.
I also like to eat baking apples.

Griff 02-02-2007 02:47 PM

Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros
Lord, there goes Johnny Appleseed
He might pass by in the hour of need
There's a lot of souls
Ain't drinking from no well locked in a factory

Hey - look there goes
Hey - look there goes
If you're after getting the honey - hey
Then you don't go killing all the bees

Lord, there goes Martin Luther King
Notice how the door closes when the chimes of freedom ring
I hear what you're saying, I hear what he's saying
*Is what was true now no longer so

Hey - I hear what you're saying
Hey - I hear what he's saying
If you're after getting the honey - hey
Then you don't go killing all the bees

What the people are saying
And we know every road - go, go
What the people are saying
There ain't no berries on the trees

Let the summertime sun
Fall on the apple - fall on the apple

Lord, there goes a Buick forty-nine
Black sheep of the angels riding, riding down the line
We think there is a soul, we don't know
That soul is hard to find

Hey - down along the road
Hey - down along the road
If you're after getting the honey
Then you don't go killing all the bees

Hey - it's what the people are saying
It's what the people are saying
Hey - there ain't no berries on the trees
Hey - that's what the people are saying, no berries on the trees
You're checking out the honey, baby
You had to go killin' all the bees

Flint 02-02-2007 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 312466)
Great flick Flint... some idiot will probably remake it next week.

!!! Good Lord...they probably will... :::cringe::: I'm really scared right now...

Elspode 02-02-2007 02:58 PM

"You're television incarnate, Diana..."

"Why don't we just kill the sonofabitch?"

"Give her the f*cking residuals!"

Oh, yeah. One of the greatest films of all time, and if someone tries to remake it, I'm going to rip out my eyeballs and mail them to the producer.

Flint 02-02-2007 03:01 PM

Can you imagine the re-spinning this film would get via "committee" decision, in order to be what they think the audience is capable of understanding these days? They really would have to just put a new title on it, I don't think they remember how to make movies like this.

I will say... I wouldn't mind if Richard Linklater (Scanner Darkly, Waking Life) did it.

LabRat 02-02-2007 03:07 PM

One word, for eating and cooking.

Honeycrisp.

That is all.

Shawnee123 02-02-2007 03:09 PM

To Flint, touche
 
.

rkzenrage 02-02-2007 03:10 PM

When I was in NC there was one with pink flesh that was AMAZING.

Flint 02-02-2007 03:20 PM

"They're all pink in the middle."
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 312486)
When I was in NC there was one with pink flesh that was AMAZING.


footfootfoot 02-02-2007 03:43 PM

Honeycrisp is the most amazing thing to come down the apple road. They are the best. They can keep up to 7 months with no deterioration if kept at 99% humidity and 32f.

I once met an apple grower who told me the red delicious cross was beautiful, travelled well, and had a reasonable shelf life at room temp, only it taasted like wet cardboard. So they hired a marketing company who came up with the orwellian name "Delicious". It's still going downhill as far as veracity is concerned.

Although, "honeycrisp" actually barely covers how amazing this apple is, especially when cold. Don't even bother eating apples if you aren't buying directly from the orchard. I'm serious. get fresh or get lost.

EAT THE FOOD!!!

Hippikos 02-02-2007 04:09 PM

What about the "Golden Delicious"?
http://www.nyapplecountry.com/images...iciouspage.jpg

I use to like Grannies (no pun intended)
http://www.produceoasis.com/Items_fo...mith-apple.jpg

but prefer Elstars now.
http://www.orangepippin.com/images/v...all/elstar.jpg

Cloud 02-02-2007 04:20 PM

ick. I have to say Golden Delicious are also seriously tasteless. I buy Fuji or Gala most often.

I will look for Honeycrisp.

Flint 02-02-2007 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 312449)
Breed for looks and long shelf-life and ignore how taste is affected.

In this way, I think the "Red Delicious Apple" is highly symbolic of where our society has been heading, in general.
I really am a little bit angry/disappointed that we are stupid/complacent enough to popularize/accept a shitty-tasting apple.

glatt 02-02-2007 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint (Post 312524)
In this way, I think the "Red Delicious Apple" is highly symbolic of where our society has been heading, in general.
I really am actually a litte bit angry/disappointed that we are stupid enough to popularize/accept a shitty-tasting apple.

Who's "we?" I don't buy that crap.

Flint 02-02-2007 04:29 PM

"We" is a general term for "the human population" - the people who buy apples, in this case.
What don't you buy? Somebody ("we") has to be buying these apples, or they wouldn't be around anymore.

glatt 02-02-2007 04:34 PM

I guess so. And you are doing your part now by educating those in the Cellar who didn't know that Red Delicious Apples suck.

racer4536 02-02-2007 04:45 PM

Red Apples are mushy like Green Apples are much better.

footfootfoot 02-02-2007 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint (Post 312524)
In this way, I think the "Red Delicious Apple" is highly symbolic of where our society has been heading, in general.
I really am a little bit angry/disappointed that we are stupid/complacent enough to popularize/accept a shitty-tasting apple.

But it's called DELICIOUS, it has to be good. Commie fag. How can we be good consumers if we think for ourselves? [/crazy sarcastic rant-ette]

skysidhe 02-02-2007 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint (Post 312429)
Are total shite. Damn the evil conglomeration of pretentious grocers who devised this abomination. Damn them, I say!

I think we all agree with that one! We'll it is a common feeling around here anyway.

Sometimes I find a good Gala or Fuji. As a kid I remember standing on my horse to reach that very large golden at the top of the lone apple tree. :drool: You'll never find that one in a store.

Flint 02-02-2007 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 312531)
And you are doing your part now by educating those in the Cellar who didn't know that Red Delicious Apples suck.

I'm not afraid to tackle the tough issues facing this great nation. I won't bow down to Big Apple and their fat-cat friends in Congress.

monster 02-02-2007 08:13 PM

Red Delicious: the Britney Spears of apples.

milkfish 02-02-2007 08:28 PM

Had a good Cortland yesterday. Mmm.

kerosene 02-02-2007 09:32 PM

I like the jonagold.

Urbane Guerrilla 02-02-2007 09:37 PM

That's because the Delicious doesn't keep so well on the shelf -- straight off the tree and dripping with their inner juices, then you know where the name came from. But it has to have come off the tree in that day or two.

Second the notion on the Fujis and Galas -- much better eatin' over time, and likewise the Granny Smiths for their proper application as bakin' apples. I'll have to give organic ugly apples a real taste test sometime.

I keep imagining Granny Smith wearing green dresses in life.

Aliantha 02-02-2007 09:43 PM

Pink Lady apples are very yummy.

I like Green apples better though.

xoxoxoBruce 02-02-2007 11:16 PM

Stayman - Winesap.

Most people eat Red Delicious because most outlets sell them exclusively, and have for some time. A couple of generations don't know anything else, unless they live next to an orchard like I do. Shame.:(

Mixie 02-03-2007 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 312512)
no deterioration if kept at 99% humidity and 32f.

99% humidity? What do you do, drown them in your fridge? :eyebrow:

To me, the ideal apple for baking apple pies is the "Goudreinet", or golden rennet. If they're out of season, I go with Elstar. I don't often eat apples, but if I do I like both the Grannies and the Jonagold.

Griff 02-03-2007 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 312609)

Do you like those in particular? I'm going to expand my fruit trees after I put up a goat fence.... man needs his cheese as well.

xoxoxoBruce 02-03-2007 08:33 AM

Yes, great for cooking, slightly tart tang eating. Not popular because of the mottled skin makes them poor for still life painting unless you're really good. :D

footfootfoot 02-03-2007 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mixie (Post 312624)
99% humidity? What do you do, drown them in your fridge? :eyebrow:

To me, the ideal apple for baking apple pies is the "Goudreinet", or golden rennet. If they're out of season, I go with Elstar. I don't often eat apples, but if I do I like both the Grannies and the Jonagold.

damp cloth, plastic bag. The orchards keep them sprayed with water all the time. It is damp in the storage area.

footfootfoot 02-03-2007 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint (Post 312568)
I'm not afraid to tackle the tough issues facing this great nation. I won't bow down to Big Apple and their fat-cat friends in Congress.

:thumbsup:

footfootfoot 02-03-2007 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 312569)
Red Delicious: the Britney Spears of apples.

Smack! haha

footfootfoot 02-03-2007 05:42 PM

Ya'lls are gonna have to get the book "botany of desire" for some real apple talk. Great book.

Undertoad 02-03-2007 07:49 PM

If you liked that you'll like Mr Pollan's piece in last Sunday's NY Times.

footfootfoot 02-03-2007 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 312748)
If you liked that you'll like Mr Pollan's piece in last Sunday's NY Times.

Awesome. It kind of bummed me out though. Even though I eat remarkably closely to what he talks about, I still am far away from how I ate in my 20's. More vegetables then.

Lately, we've been eating a lot more meat, though it is all "organic-ish" meaning I know the farmers who raised the meat, I helped slaughter some of it, and I know the animals didn't eat anything but food. ie no hormones or antibiotics. (one cow did die of a bad cold however...) The farmers aren't USDA certified as organic, not that that has any meaning.

So now I am thinking I need to eat more broccoli and carrots. I could go for a good Cobb salad right now. God, those are great.

BigV 02-03-2007 09:22 PM

Had some of these at the end of last season. Honeycrisp apples from the grower's backyard. Now I'm not an apple guy. I prefer citrus, but I left the land of citrus for the land of stone fruits and apples, and I'm trying to adapt. This apple will do it. God it was delicious. I had maybe ten.

glatt 02-03-2007 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 312609)

Those are good too, but I've never seen one in a grocery store, and the oldest one I've ever eaten had been picked about a week earlier. Gotta go to the source to get one.

xoxoxoBruce 02-04-2007 12:22 AM

True, never in the store, only orchards have them because they aren't grown in great quantity. I'm fortunate to be close.:D

Beestie 02-04-2007 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 312438)
Granny Smith apples are the only acceptable kind. All the other species are tools of the devil.

Yep. I slice 'em up (never peeled) and squeeze a tiny bit of lime juice and shake a good amount of salt on them. Deeeee-licious!!

Hey, that's it! Green Delicious!

Hmmmm.. maybe not.

How come "Red Delicious" sounds so much better than "Green Delicious?"

footfootfoot 02-04-2007 02:19 PM

Red is passion
Green is envy, and sea sickness
;)

We planted a Honey Crisp and a Northern Spy. I plan to espalier them along a fence.

xoxoxoBruce 02-04-2007 02:28 PM

I don't think this is the proper forum to discuss your perversions you picked up in France. :eek:


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