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Radar 02-26-2007 09:43 PM

Artistic Opinions Needed!!!
 
My wife is going to have a baby girl in about 2 months so she won't be able to work for awhile. She doesn't make much money anyway so I was thinking rather than pay a babysitter $500+ per month to watch our baby, my wife can watch her and I can make some money with an online store and eBay store. I'm fairly confident that I'll be able to earn at least this much part time in addition to my regular job.

I've paid for a company to design a logo for my business and they've given me 8 concepts.

Please take a moment to look at them, but DO NOT click on the submit button or choose any of the designs on the website. Please let me know your opinions here.

Keep in mind, once I go with a concept, I can make unlimited revisions (colors, small design changes, etc) until I like it.

Thank you all for your help. Your opinions are valuable to me; especially in artistic matters. I'd appreciate it if we can stick to the subject at hand and not turn this into an attack thread against me by those who don't like me personally. Thanks.

You can view the samples here:

http://www.logobee.com/view/homeschool

Aliantha 02-26-2007 09:57 PM

I like the first one because it's clear and concise with minimal distraction from the actual product you're selling. The basic colour scheme is good too.

xoxoxoBruce 02-26-2007 10:06 PM

I'm partial to #3, only because "supply house" is prominant. It defines you are not a home school organization, advice column or support group. You are a supply house. :2cents:

Kingswood 02-26-2007 10:22 PM

I like #1 best, with the "Homeschool" rendered in a different font such as Comic Sans.

Radar 02-26-2007 11:03 PM

Most people seem to like #1, but it seems strangely familiar to me. I swear I've seen that hat/roof with a similar font in another logo before. It's bugging the heck out of me that I can't remember where I've seen it.

DucksNuts 02-26-2007 11:25 PM

I like #1 but #4 appeals to me too.

monster 02-26-2007 11:47 PM

# 5-9 are too busy

#1 is the most eye-catching, but I share the sense of familiarity and wonder if it is reminiscent of a family sitcom logo?

#2 The H and the two lines make it looks a little like a highway logo

#3 looks a little like a recycling logo

#4 is a bit old fashioned

#10 is a little forgettable


I think on balance I like #1, but wonder if the text might be better being a bit less "comedy" -perhaps not squished by the roof?

I'm also thinking maybe the red, white and blue is a little done to death as a color scheme right now? What about the gold and blue of #7?


hth

Radar 02-27-2007 12:16 AM

It's very funny that you mentioned a family sitcom because I was thinking the same thing.

Here's my observations:

1. Jumped out at me, but seems very familiar. The whole point of paying for a logo was to make me stand out.

2. Boring and I don't like the attempt to be cute by making the H into a person.

3. I like that SUPPLY HOUSE is displayed in the same size font as HOMESCHOOL.

4. Don't like the colors, and I agree with the old fashioned look mentioned above.

5. Busy, but balanced and it has nice colors. This might work if it has some revisions to simplify it.

6. I just don't like it.

7. I like the sort of asian little house design in the middle except for the cross in the middle of the window that looks too much like a crucifix for my comfort. The circle is too small, and the homeschool font and color is wrong and should not have an outline. It might work with a several revisions.

8. Interesting, but it seems like it would be better for a furniture store.

9. I like the 3D pen coming off the paper, but other than that, it's pretty boring and wouldn't stick in the minds of people.



I think the mark of a good logo is in its simplicity, it's relation to the product, and the way it sticks in your memory. A good logo should be able to be printed in black and white and still look good.

SteveDallas 02-27-2007 01:09 AM

3, 8, and 10 all have some appeal to me, but I think 1 would be my choice.

Radar 02-27-2007 01:36 AM

Maybe if I made the wedge of the roof like like a cross between a compas and a roof, and I got rid of that curly thing coming off the book for no apparent reason, I'd like #1 more.

xoxoxoBruce 02-27-2007 03:57 AM

:confused:

Griff 02-27-2007 05:57 AM

They are all nicely done but, I like the feel of number 1. The roof implies security and pen says acedemic success.

Sundae 02-27-2007 06:51 AM

I like 1, the same as everyone else. But I actually really like 5 as well. I agree it is a leetle busy, but it is sophisticated imo.

LabRat 02-27-2007 08:53 AM

I initially liked #1 the best, with the following revisions:

The "Homeschool" font shouldn't be so cartoonish, people don't homeschool for fun. I like the font of #2 (but with a regular H). I also like the two shades of blue in #2, they seem to be a little more feminine than the other color schemes, and I'm guessing that mostly women are going to be your buyers (but I may be TOTALLY wrong--don't flame me). Since #1 is a little more complicated than #2, a third color is definately needed.

Neat idea, good luck!!

Sheldonrs 02-27-2007 09:07 AM

I like #1 the most with #3 my second choice.

They remind me of the logo for the org. where I work.

Clodfobble 02-27-2007 09:18 AM

I think #5 or #7 would need the least revisions, myself. I hate the book-and-pen thing in #1, and also the colors and "wacky" font.

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Originally Posted by Radar
I like the sort of asian little house design in the middle except for the cross in the middle of the window that looks too much like a crucifix for my comfort.

Here's the thing: a large portion of your clientele will be Christian homeschoolers, who will distinctly prefer to buy from a Christian company. So if you let the window pane be ambiguous--a cross to Christians and a window pane to everyone else--you'll have the best of both worlds, IMHO. I think with some color changes and a totally different font, #7 could be really good.

lumberjim 02-27-2007 09:23 AM

#7. It has a Disney-esque quality. I'd change the colors tho.....needs some chalkboard green somewhere.

Shawnee123 02-27-2007 09:30 AM

I like 1 and 3...but the color scheme on 1 looks much better imho.

Radar 02-27-2007 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheldonrs (Post 318642)
I like #1 the most with #3 my second choice.

They remind me of the logo for the org. where I work.

Where do you work? Do you know where I can see that logo?

Radar 02-27-2007 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LabRat (Post 318637)
I initially liked #1 the best, with the following revisions:

The "Homeschool" font shouldn't be so cartoonish, people don't homeschool for fun. I like the font of #2 (but with a regular H). I also like the two shades of blue in #2, they seem to be a little more feminine than the other color schemes, and I'm guessing that mostly women are going to be your buyers (but I may be TOTALLY wrong--don't flame me). Since #1 is a little more complicated than #2, a third color is definately needed.

Neat idea, good luck!!

I'm still trying to figure out what that curly line is supposed to be coming off the book in #1. Thanks for the well wishes. I hope this pans out.

Radar 02-27-2007 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 318646)
#7. It has a Disney-esque quality. I'd change the colors tho.....needs some chalkboard green somewhere.

I could see that little house being drawn in chalk on a green background.

LabRat 02-27-2007 11:15 AM

on #1, ditch the book/pen thing, add a piece of chalk drawing the roof...i do like the roof because it brings the HOME into homeschooling...

LabRat 02-27-2007 11:31 AM

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quickie photoshop job...add maybe a piece of chalk or something...tried to get the roof 'chalkboard green
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glatt 02-27-2007 12:13 PM

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I like the idea of the "Home School" being under a roof.
I also like the idea of "Supply House" being nice and big so people know this is a business, damn it.

I liked the idea of the chalkboard, and it got me thinking about how in the old days people like Abraham Lincoln would have a small chalkboard for their home schooling with a little piece of chalk tied to it.

Maybe this is too, ahem, old school, but this was my thought.

I'm certainly no graphic designer and this is no good as it appears here, but it gives you the idea. If you go with it, or something derived from it, I only ask that you make a small contribution to the Cellar tip mug.

Shawnee123 02-27-2007 12:57 PM

I like lab's logo but not the colors. That basic dark green with a pastel-like turquoisey color...no. Stick with primaries and secondaries (imho) :)

monster 02-27-2007 01:10 PM

...a lot of the people I know who home school do so to get away from the "tied to the chalk board" thing. But then they might also not be interested in commercial supplies..... :neutral:

wolf 02-27-2007 06:16 PM

I like #1, but the more I look at the samples, the less connected my brain becomes ... I started to read HomeSchool Ho'meyshul ... which I suppose is an African American Jewish Academy.

I've been working too hard.

Radar 02-27-2007 07:18 PM

Ok, I went with design number 1, but I asked for some samples with different fonts and colors. If you go to the same website now, you'll see design number 1 but with all different colors and fonts.

I'm also going to talk to them and ask them to take away that curly swish thing coming off the book.

I was thinking about going with a pencil rather than a pen, and I'd really like the words SUPPLY HOUSE to be added to this logo because I don't want people to forget that it's a business, and it's a one-stop-shop for homeschool supplies.

monster 02-27-2007 07:45 PM

I like #5, although I think maybe tweak the colors a little -get a little more contrast in there. And Add "Supply House" -perhaps with "supply" in the Same color as "school" and "House" in the same color as "home".

Another I'd be interested to see it with the word Homeschool in lower case, and also in lower case but with the H capitalized (but no space) to introduce a "HS -SH" pattern:

HomeSchool
Supply House

HomeSchool
Supply House



just testing:

colorcombo
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color combo
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jamamaspoke 02-27-2007 07:46 PM

I like #1 nice font for what you are doing - can it be enlarged just a bit? Don't like the colors. Also like #3 for the font.

bluecuracao 02-27-2007 07:51 PM

Do they have other font options they could give you?

I like the first one the best out of those choices. "Supply House" would work well in the same font right underneath (a different one might look too busy and awkward).

If they take the swishy thing off, maybe they could move the pen and book so they overlap, with a "highlight" on the pen.

DucksNuts 02-27-2007 08:28 PM

I'm liking #2 and #5

monster 02-27-2007 08:31 PM

I really don't mind the swishy thing -it's not obvious why it's there/what it is, but it sort of holds the pen up and implies action.

LabRat 02-28-2007 09:48 AM

:2cents:

The roof needs to be bigger, to cover more of the Homeschool, like in the original. I agree Supply house must be added, or it really loses the point. I'm ignoring colors at the moment...I also like the thicker fonts for homeschool, and a thinner one possibly for supply house when it's added, since the font will be smaller.

Shawnee123 02-28-2007 09:53 AM

I agree about the roof. Other than that I like 2.

Radar 03-01-2007 07:58 AM

The newest revisions are up now. Some with a pencil, and with different fonts, and with "supply house" added.

I'm very close now. Check these out and let me know what you think. And remember, please do not click on the submit button when you visit this link.

http://www.logobee.com/view/homeschool

Clodfobble 03-01-2007 11:11 AM

I vote for #6! Overall I prefer the pencil and the skinnier font, and the color scheme on #6 seems more professional to me.

bluecuracao 03-01-2007 05:50 PM

The bold serif font in #1 and #2 seems too institutional...I like #3 the best, though "Homeschool" might look better a little larger.

Radar 03-06-2007 05:14 PM

I think we've got the logo now, I just need to find a good color scheme that will look good on a website

Sheldonrs 03-06-2007 05:29 PM

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Where do you work? Do you know where I can see that logo?

www.cisarizona.org

xoxoxoBruce 03-06-2007 09:58 PM

Nobody will like this but me. ;)

lumberjim 03-06-2007 10:16 PM

i like it

Radar 03-06-2007 11:02 PM

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I'm really leaning towards these 2....

The top one is a little on the boring side, but might look good on a website. If the colors are too bright they tend to hurt the eyes. Also the top colors remind me of a tree, and for some reason this works good with a school. A tree brings to mind ancient wisdom.

I second one is good too because the colors are strong and they remind me of water. I think they'd probably look good on a website too.

What do you guys think between these 2?

lumberjim 03-06-2007 11:42 PM

what about multi colored letters (homeschool)under a dk. green book, red roof and black pen?

Radar 03-06-2007 11:55 PM

It would cost too much to print and I want to come up with a webpage that has matching colors.

PeculiarDragon 03-07-2007 04:08 AM

I'm going to jump in with the opinion of a homeschooled person (that would be me) who is also planning on homeschooling her kids...

Of the choices on the Samples page, I think 5 is the most appealing. Its a departure from the typical "school" colors, so it grabs the eye.

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 320894)
What do you guys think between these 2?

Of those two, I would definitely aim for the top one.

chooselife 03-07-2007 05:13 AM

i like the colours for the first three, it fits the presence of the word school

monster 03-07-2007 07:30 AM

You're right, the top one is too dull -there's not enough differentiation between the colors. Have you gone back to the comedy font, then?

Radar 03-07-2007 09:21 AM

I've gone back to the kiddy font only for the word Homeschool

Shawnee123 03-07-2007 09:39 AM

I like it. I like the colors in number two. Looks great, radar.

wolf 03-07-2007 01:14 PM

#1 or #6 for me. (#6 only because I really love purple.)

Given your likely audience, though, the RWB association works really well, so #1.

melidasaur 03-07-2007 02:15 PM

I like 1 - red and blue are powerful colors that stay in the mind. Don't forget to register your logo with the US Patent and TRademark Office.

LabRat 03-07-2007 02:25 PM

I take back what I said about the kiddy font, now I like it. Go figure.
I am a woman, I have the right to change my mind. A lot. I do like colors with more contrast ala #2.

xoxoxoBruce 03-07-2007 04:27 PM

But red and blue are not memorable, especially with a election year coming up people will be sick of red and blue. Maybe even repulsed by it.:2cents:

glatt 03-07-2007 06:39 PM

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Just noticed this on my bathroom fan today.

bluecuracao 03-07-2007 08:48 PM

I think the blue and green one would look terrific, if the green was replaced by the lovely orange-red in #6 (though I like the purple, too, just switched). Blue and green logos always say 'corporate' to me.

Radar 03-07-2007 10:13 PM

Corporate is the look I'm going for. The business is me and maybe my wife later. I want it to look established, corporate, trustworthy, and a place people will be happy to spend their money.

wolf 03-08-2007 01:58 AM

Just don't pick the same colors as FedEx. You're getting close to that. Especially if you give a try with the Blue/Orangey-Red combo.

The darker red, especially if it's used for the Roof-like graphic carries the connotation of the Little Red Schoolhouse, which is about as traditional as traditional gets.

Now, if that pen that looks like if fell off the chain on a bank counter were replaced with a pencil ...

Radar 03-08-2007 08:38 AM

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I had some with the pencil in it, but they don't look as good as the pen.

wolf 03-08-2007 01:19 PM

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That pencil doesn't look particularly pencily, if you know what I mean. Finer line weight, and the end with the eraser should show the division from the silver metal thingy that holds it in (it's actually called a ferrule, but I'm probably one of the few people that knows that without looking it up). The angle near the point is wrong too. People can very quickly grasp the impression of a pencil, if it's expressed properly graphically. A shorter but fatter pencil could express these qualities better.

Okay, as previously admitted, I can't draw, but I tried anyway.


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