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Undertoad 03-31-2007 10:30 AM

March 31, 2007: Panda porn
 
http://cellar.org/2007/pandaporn.jpg

Axlrosen sent the full story and 20minutos.es daily gallery has the shot of this, Chuang Chuang the panda, who has been watching panda porn on a big screen television for days and days. Tapes of pandas getting it on. Because Chuang himself isn't taking to the concept, and they hope he'll figure it out by watching.

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"Chuang Chuang seems indifferent to the videos; he has no reaction to what he's seeing on TV," Kanika said. "But we're continuing to show him videos and hoping they will leave an impression."
Maybe he's gay, and they're showing him the wrong tapes. More likely pandas take in information differently than people, and the images he sees are so obviously NOT pandas that the whole thing doesn't matter to him.

We see television images as representations and can make that extra step to understand that what we're seeing is a moving image of something else, but that's a pretty complicated process. The animals I've known have not been able to process non-moving pictures, never mind moving ones. My dog doesn't care what's on TV, until the audio is meaningful - something barks - which is a more realistic representation of another dog, to her.

Our brains are set up to recognize patterns and to associate them with the abstract concept of what we are looking at; instead of saying this is a picture of UT, you might just say this is UT and the complicated process that got you from one notion to the other is so quick you don't consider it.

This obviously leads to Magritte's "This is not a pipe", actually titled "The Treachery of Images". But I don't want to digress too much further.

elSicomoro 03-31-2007 10:37 AM

I've heard of "typical male" pandas before. Maybe some of them really are gay. Or incredibly fucking lazy.

Sheldonrs 03-31-2007 10:41 AM

Maybe he's just not attracted to the ladies they bring him.

Maybe he's into roll playing. Try dressing the lady panda as a kangaroo and see if it helps.

Then again, maybe he just prefers to Panda-handle things himself. ;)

Karenv 03-31-2007 12:15 PM

The media isn't the message
 
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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 329007)
http://cellar.org/2007/pandaporn.jpg

More likely pandas take in information differently than people, and the images he sees are so obviously NOT pandas that the whole thing doesn't matter to him.

We see television images as representations and can make that extra step to understand that what we're seeing is a moving image of something else, but that's a pretty complicated process. The animals I've known have not been able to process non-moving pictures, never mind moving ones. My dog doesn't care what's on TV, until the audio is meaningful - something barks - which is a more realistic representation of another dog, to him.

Maybe he just needs a live demonstration.

elSicomoro 03-31-2007 12:17 PM

Maybe he just wants his woman to use Dynadouche.

Spexxvet 03-31-2007 02:16 PM

That panda is obviously gay. I'm getting horny myself just seeing the picture of panda porn. He should be sporting wood by now, what with him bein' a panda 'n' all.

elSicomoro 03-31-2007 02:57 PM

Excuse me while I go change my pants...

Sheldonrs 03-31-2007 06:33 PM

I'm betting he likes it in the bamboo chute.

Guess 04-01-2007 01:23 PM

maybe the reason he's not gettin' it on is because he's locked up in a cage. i bet if he was out in the wild, he'd be doin' it with all the lady pandas.

xoxoxoBruce 04-01-2007 01:49 PM

It seems the Chinese have breeding farms where they're artificially inseminating Pandas because they are so slow on the uptake.

piercehawkeye45 04-01-2007 01:57 PM

Couldn't you just make some panda test tube babies?

Megamiyumi 04-01-2007 03:34 PM

Maybe they should try hdtv!!!
More realistic images might do the thing :P

rfoxx 04-01-2007 04:19 PM

The fact is, female pandas are bitchy and cantankerous 51 weeks out of the year. They're in heat for one week. So, what's a poor male panda to make of that? Sound like any other species? They need to take him to a bar and get him drunk.

Trilby 04-01-2007 05:18 PM

Hi, megami--very funny post!

rfoxx--not gettin' any, huh?

King 04-01-2007 05:40 PM

Evolutionarily speaking, it makes no sense that pandas are so unwilling/incapable of breeding. I can't get my head around how this would come about. I should ask one of my biology teachers after Easter. Damn pandas making me doubt my understanding of evolutionary theory.

Pie 04-01-2007 06:11 PM

As an economics professor told me, the companies that survive don't necessarily have to be the best, they just have to be better than break-even.
Apparently, pandas were able to keep the birthrate > deathrate, at least for the last 18 million years or so. Many animals in captivity experience decreased sex drive. Would you be able to perform in front of a room of zoologists? Okay, not you, Spexxvet. :rolleyes:

DanaC 04-01-2007 06:16 PM

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The animals I've known have not been able to process non-moving pictures, never mind moving ones. My dog doesn't care what's on TV, until the audio is meaningful - something barks - which is a more realistic representation of another dog, to her.
My auntie had a collie dog who loved televised football. As soon as he heard the theme tune from Match of the Day, he's hurtle in from wherever he was in the house and plonk himself right in front of the telly. His head would move from side to side like he was watching the action and he'd growl like fuck at anyone who tried to change the channel.

xoxoxoBruce 04-01-2007 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Megamiyumi (Post 329345)
Maybe they should try hdtv!!!
More realistic images might do the thing :P

Welcome to the Cellar Megamiyumi.:D
You may be on to something since pandas have poor eyesight.

monster 04-01-2007 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 329385)
My auntie had a collie dog who loved televised football. As soon as he heard the theme tune from Match of the Day, he's hurtle in from wherever he was in the house and plonk himself right in front of the telly. His head would move from side to side like he was watching the action and he'd growl like fuck at anyone who tried to change the channel.

Did he go look for the ball round the back of the TV when the cameras weren't fast enough to follow the action?

Undertoad 04-01-2007 09:17 PM

Border collies are the one dog that I would expect to watch TV and understand it, perhaps even write important criticism.

(Although in this case I suspect he was tracking Uncle's behavior, who might also run for the telly at the sound of the MotD theme, and growl at Auntie trying to change the channel)

Sundae 04-02-2007 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pie (Post 329380)
Apparently, pandas were able to keep the birthrate > deathrate, at least for the last 18 million years or so.

No they weren't. They arrived on the ark with the kangaroos.

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 329385)
My auntie had a collie dog who loved televised football.

My boys get interested in television when the camera is static and the images move from one side of the screen to the other. There was a sports trailer where a ball would bounce onto the screen and it caught their attention every time. I'm tempted to buy them a cat dvd.

Happy Monkey 04-02-2007 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by King (Post 329369)
Evolutionarily speaking, it makes no sense that pandas are so unwilling/incapable of breeding. I can't get my head around how this would come about.

Nobody knows why, or they would probably be able to correct for it, but I can think of a couple of possibilities.

1) Some sort of bamboo mold makes them horny, and it is not in most zoos, ans is dying out in the wild.

2) Their mating interest is related to their range, which is minimal in zoos and diminishing in the wild.

It's probably neither of these but there are certainly any number of ways that a species can be put in a precarious situation by evolution.

Undertoad 04-03-2007 07:41 AM

The porn failed.

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BANGKOK, Thailand - After panda porn failed to spark amour, Thai zoo authorities turned Monday to artificial insemination in the hope of impregnating their lone female giant panda.

Authorities at the Chiang Mai Zoo in northern Thailand inseminated Lin Hui with semen from her cage-mate, Chuang Chuang, on Monday morning and will repeat the procedure on Tuesday. The artificial insemination is a last ditch effort to get Lin Hui pregnant, after videos of pandas having sex failed to entice Chuang Chuang into mating with his partner.

"He just didn't want to mate. He was looking at her as a friend," said Sophon Dummui, director general of Thai Zoo Organization of Thailand which oversees the Chiang Mai Zoo.

Shawnee123 04-03-2007 08:11 AM

And yet, this darling bird fell in love with a big old boat.

xoxoxoBruce 04-03-2007 07:47 PM

Yeah, but they won't procreate either.

Aliantha 04-03-2007 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 329385)
he'd growl like fuck at anyone who tried to change the channel.


How does f**k growl?

Kingswood 04-04-2007 09:47 PM

I think the panda porn would have been more effective if the reluctant panda was watching smellovision.

Bitman 04-04-2007 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
The porn failed.

Well, naturally. Who can get excited about a porno where everyone's wearing fur coats?

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Originally Posted by Aliantha
How does f**k growl?

Role playing?

xoxoxoBruce 04-05-2007 07:41 PM

Should have put another male in with the pair and let 'em duke it out. Maybe tie their left forepaws together.


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