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Kitsune 05-15-2007 01:32 PM

Falwell Dead at 73
 
You're going to have to imagine my tears for this man, I'm afraid.

Quote:

"I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped [the September 11th attacks] happen."

glatt 05-15-2007 01:35 PM

Gee, that's too bad.

Sheldonrs 05-15-2007 01:39 PM

Hell, even Larry Flynt is dancing today.

Wouldn't the world be a better place if he had fought FOR people instead of against them?

vsp 05-15-2007 01:47 PM

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Was that out loud? Good.

Spexxvet 05-15-2007 01:57 PM

Maybe there is a god.

Shawnee123 05-15-2007 02:06 PM

HOW DARE YOU, ALL OF YOU? A man is DEAD! Do you have no pity, do you not see how you offend? Do you think you're fucking FUNNY? I don't think it's funny, not a goddam bit, so quit offering your goddam not funny opinions. Sheesh...

(Oh, sorry, I thought it read "father dead at 73. My bad.)

rkzenrage 05-15-2007 02:20 PM

Shame for his family and loved ones. Also for the rational thinkers of the world.
He was always good for showing the reality of the other side in its purest form, he had no shame.
He stated the reality of the faithful's stance with lots of publicity and who was on his side in politics, showed us who the enemy was.
I loved having him out there.
He brought more to rational thought than to superstition, I promise.

xoxoxoBruce 05-15-2007 02:44 PM

I agree, he was the best bad example we could hope for to expose the radical wackos for what they are.

Undertoad 05-15-2007 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vsp (Post 343600)
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

v. to the s. to the motha-fuckin' p. If there was one thread you should return to reply to it is this one. How's it goin'!

Ibby 05-15-2007 05:38 PM

Thank yeeew, Jeeeesus!

Aliantha 05-15-2007 07:13 PM

I feel sorry for his family and those who loved him. I don't agree with his philosophy on life, but as Shawnee pointed out, he's dead so let him rest in peace.

Someone will come along and take his place for those of you so ready to dance on his grave.

Ibby 05-15-2007 08:09 PM

It's terrible to be so pleased at the death of someone...

...but honestly, it's even more terrible that people like him are alive at all.

Aliantha 05-15-2007 08:12 PM

If there weren't people like him around there'd be nothing to be moderate about.

It's a matter of balance.

xoxoxoBruce 05-15-2007 08:30 PM

He wasn't part of balance, but way far off the end of the scale.

Aliantha 05-15-2007 08:32 PM

There's plenty of people way far at the other end of the scale too. We have one of them right here as a member of the cellar.

xoxoxoBruce 05-15-2007 08:53 PM

No, no, no, we have nothing but reasonable, rational, loving members.

Aliantha 05-15-2007 09:02 PM

If you say so.

xoxoxoBruce 05-15-2007 09:15 PM

See, that proves it.

Ibby 05-15-2007 09:41 PM

The difference between a crazy weird right-winger and a crazy weird left-winger is that the left-winger doesnt advocate locking up all the fags, the niggers, the dykes, the heathens. They dont want to destroy all those who dont fit their closedminded backwards draconian morality; they want to help people, and convince them to leave that draconian ridiculousness.

A right-winger would ban gay sex. A left-winger wouldn't make it mandatory.
A right-winger would ban drugs. A left-winger wouldn't make it mandatory.

That is the difference; that is why right-wingers, all of them, are supporters of totalitarianism, authoritarianism, fascism - and why they are so repulsive to me.

busterb 05-15-2007 09:47 PM

Was that your Dad? If so I'm???? speechless.

Ibby 05-15-2007 09:48 PM

What?

busterb 05-15-2007 10:37 PM

That kind of rage is most time at someone close to home!

bluecuracao 05-16-2007 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 343781)
There's plenty of people way far at the other end of the scale too. We have one of them right here as a member of the cellar.

Puh-leese, just don't say his name three times in front of a mirror. ;)

Aliantha 05-16-2007 02:13 AM

Why? And anyway, who do you think I might have been referring to?

bluecuracao 05-16-2007 02:40 AM

Ooh, haven't you seen Candyman??

I was just trying to be funny, kind of. Who were you referring to?

Urbane Guerrilla 05-16-2007 03:45 AM

The leftwingers are into governmental aggrandization in all its forms, fascism, communism, democratic socialism, not-so-democratic socialism, and in general sundry excesses of statism, genocides being just one. The hard Left now indulges in the rankest sort of antisemitism, thinly veiled as something called "antizionism."

It's time for Ibbie to take a read of Clowns to the Left of Me, Wimps to the Right, from Bernard Goldberg's busy pen.

The reason I reject the Left is because my experience tells me it doesn't have the virtues Ibbie ascribes to it.

Aliantha 05-16-2007 04:52 AM

I definitely had rkz in mind, although there's a couple of others who might fit the bill too.

Ibby 05-16-2007 08:11 AM

UG, you have yet to give a single scrap of evidence for any of that bullshit. The only way the Left is authoritarian at all is that they wanna take guns away, and the more sane of them don't even want to do that.

It's very simple. The right is all about what you can't do. The left is all about what you can.

Spexxvet 05-16-2007 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 343815)
The difference between a crazy weird right-winger and a crazy weird left-winger is that the left-winger doesnt advocate locking up all the fags, the niggers, the dykes, the heathens. They dont want to destroy all those who dont fit their closedminded backwards draconian morality; they want to help people, and convince them to leave that draconian ridiculousness.

A right-winger would ban gay sex. A left-winger wouldn't make it mandatory.
A right-winger would ban drugs. A left-winger wouldn't make it mandatory.

That is the difference; that is why right-wingers, all of them, are supporters of totalitarianism, authoritarianism, fascism - and why they are so repulsive to me.

Bingo! We have a winner!

skysidhe 05-16-2007 09:50 AM

I felt really bad yesterday for having an emotional response that included a stuffed down smurk. I am sure I am one of those evil ones that are going straight to hell.

glatt 05-16-2007 10:00 AM

There's nothing wrong with being pleased that an asshole is no longer around.

Griff 05-16-2007 10:16 AM

Okay the rapture is complete.

Roll call.
Griff "HERE!" oh oh

skysidhe 05-16-2007 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 343898)
There's nothing wrong with being pleased that an asshole is no longer around.

Yes, I was. His intolerance, bigotry,playing god. I was wondering what death was like for him. Very morbid I know. I gave an inward shudder that if there is a god I imagine it must be very much against these things.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff (Post 343904)
Okay the rapture is complete.

Roll call.
Griff "HERE!" oh oh


lol :)

Pie 05-16-2007 10:37 AM

We shouldn't dance on his grave... oh, what the hell. :jig:

Kitsune 05-16-2007 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 343739)
I feel sorry for his family and those who loved him. I don't agree with his philosophy on life, but as Shawnee pointed out, he's dead so let him rest in peace.

Ah, finally, I get to Godwin a thread: would you say the same of, oh, Hitler?

Hime 05-16-2007 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff (Post 343904)
Okay the rapture is complete.

Roll call.
Griff "HERE!" oh oh

Griff wins the thread! :)

xoxoxoBruce 05-16-2007 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pie (Post 343914)
We shouldn't dance on his grave... oh, what the hell. :jig:

No, I don't think so. I think it's better to say, Jerry? Jerry Who? Otherwise the terrorists win.

AgentApathy 05-16-2007 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skysidhe (Post 343895)
I felt really bad yesterday for having an emotional response that included a stuffed down smurk. I am sure I am one of those evil ones that are going straight to hell.

No worries; you'll be in good company and I'm sure we'll all have one heck of a party (while Falwell watches from the sidelines, trying to figure out where to damn us all to next for having fun).

I grew up about 45 minutes away from Lynchburg and his zealot stronghold of a university. There is something wrong with any learning institution that would discipline adults for holding hands on campus. I always found Falwell to be a bit too totalitarian, and I was able to come to that conclusion at the ripe age of 10!

I admit that I even posted something to my blog titled "the Witch is Dead." I'm not quite sure how that guy schnookered so many people, but I'm glad he's gone. I won't be upset when Pat Robertson is gone either.

xoxoxoBruce 05-16-2007 02:09 PM

Quote:

I'm not quite sure how that guy schnookered so many people
People don't like change. The more responsibilities they acquire,(kids, mortgage, debts) the more unpredictability is unnerving.

The changes in society after WW II up to the late 70s were pretty big and came at a steadily increasing rate.

Falwell promised to turn back or at least slow down the clock. Old time religion, family values and the political/social clout to make it happen. Put the queers back in the closet, keep them niggers in line, get them whores off the TV and out of the movies.

Even the people that didn't totally buy his notions, felt he was a better alternative than letting the world around them deteriorate(change) at the rate it was going.

How's that for a guess?

Trilby 05-16-2007 03:38 PM

Is it cool now if i openly become a lesbian and practice witchcraft?

Not much will change. Nothing ever does. Except the abortion laws...*sigh*

tw 05-16-2007 06:16 PM

Legacy of this man is not posted. For example, he called Muhammad a terrorist. He suggested that 11 September reflected God's judgment on a nation spiritually weakened by the American Civil Liberties Union, providers of abortion and supporters of gay rights. He openly promoted hate of gay lifestyle and supported Anita Bryant's campaign against gays. He spoke out again Martin Luther King and opposed the civil rights movement. He promoted segregation - claiming that was only because the south was racist. He said he changed when he discovered segregation was wrong in the Bible - as if 400 years of Bible scholars had missed that teaching.

He suggested that Tinky Winky, a character in the "Teletubbies" children's show, could be a hidden homosexual because Tinky Winky was purple, had a triangle on his head, and carried a handbag.

Falwell created (modified) Liberty University and its Law School. The latter's purpose to educate lawyers an exemplary education, from a biblical perspective. IOW to impose God's will on the law ... as if God cannot impose his own will. And of course the Moral Majority where Falwell said to vote only for those how 'stands by the Bible'. Falwell said that religion should not be separated from politics - a reversal of his 1960 opinion.

Underlying Falwell is a belief that morality - his morality - should be imposed upon a nation. He encouraged his followers to impose the will of God. To me - he advocated a Spanish Inquisition upon American civil rights. How can a man so religious at a personal level also be so evil at a national level as to impose his religious beliefs on all others?

Aliantha 05-16-2007 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitsune (Post 343917)
Ah, finally, I get to Godwin a thread: would you say the same of, oh, Hitler?

I'd say the same about anyone at the time of their death.

Hitler is a historical figure and changed events in the whole world so to discuss him in a historical context to me is fine.

The same would apply to people like Fallwell after his family and loved ones have been given some grace by the greater public.

Happy Monkey 05-16-2007 07:32 PM


bluecuracao 05-16-2007 07:46 PM

Ha ha ha...Mr. Hitchens sure doesn't pull any punches.

Kitsune 05-16-2007 10:41 PM

Guess who will be in attendance at the funeral?

Quote:

WBC to picket the funeral of Rev. Jerry Falwell - at
Thomas Road Baptist Church, Lynchburg, Virginia -
in religious protest and warning: "God is not
mocked!,, Gal. 6:7. God Hates Fags! & Fag-Enablers!
Ergo, God hates Jerry Falwell, Billy Graham, Pat
Robertson, and all such Arminian heretic preachers -
from fundamentalist evangelicals to openly gay
Episcopalians and pedophile Catholics - all of whom
have created the Satanic Sodomite Zeitgeist wherein
America has irreversibly gone the way of Sodom.
Falwell was a "fag enabler"? :eyebrow:

xoxoxoBruce 05-17-2007 03:51 AM

Gosh, do you think the Patriot Guard will go too?

Pie 05-17-2007 08:47 AM

My head asplode.

bluecuracao 05-17-2007 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitsune (Post 344082)
Guess who will be in attendance at the funeral?



Falwell was a "fag enabler"? :eyebrow:

Maybe they're mad, because he retracted that statement he made about 9-11?

vsp 05-21-2007 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 343680)
v. to the s. to the motha-fuckin' p. If there was one thread you should return to reply to it is this one. How's it goin'!

Not too bad, same old same old.

TheMercenary 05-21-2007 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 344095)
Gosh, do you think the Patriot Guard will go too?

Not a chance. He was never in the military.


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