Simultaneously Eating and Drinking
 

I was eating something in the car, and when I was done with the whole thing I took a drink to "wash it down" ...

I thought about the phrase "wash it down" and it's literal meaning, as I felt the food particles goe down my gullet.

I thought about how we usually drink as a part of a meal, drinking between bites, instead of waiting and taking a drink to "wash it down" ...

I began to wonder under what circumstances a primitive hunter gatherer would have such easy access to drinking water. I concluded our evolutionary ancestors would not have had the resources to drink an unlimited amount of water; they would not have water on hand at the same moment that they had food, or vice versa.

I then thought that this constant, unnatural liquid intake might be diluting our digestive juices. I thought, our bodies probably ramp up production to compensate for this. And as a result, we have some of the health problems that we do.

Did all that thinking give you agita?

I do not typically drink during a meal. Don't know why, just something I've done since I was a kid. It wasn't a "family thing," I'm the only one that does this. In fact, I usually won't even have a beverage at my place setting during a meal (yeah, of course wine is an exception to this), but no soda, juice, or water until after I'm done eating. I do the same thing at work. If I take my soda out of the fridge when I start eating, it's warm by the time I get to it. Yuck.

@wolf: I think you may be shunning the norms of society and obeying your natural instincts. Then again, our instinct may be to consume as much as you can of whatever is available. In the first interpretation, however, you can pat yourself on the back for being in touch with your inner spirit guides, or whatever terminology you find most gratifying.

I know a lot of people who might take one sip of water while they're eating. Not me, whether it's water, or milk, or diet coke, or a beer...I drink a ton while I eat.

Maybe I have a lazy peristalsis?:3_eyes:

@Shawnee: The other side of this is that water fills up your stomach, and you consume less calories.

Oh, I do that too.

Natural instincts. That's a really good excuse. I'll have to use that in future.

When you're "wolfing" something down?

DUDE. a bad pun? wtf? where're your standards?

. . . can be rather messy!

Have you ever started to eat something or take a large pill and suddenly forget how to swallow? You're sitting there with this big blockage right at the entrance to your esophagus and you can't remember which muscles you have to move to get it down the chute. The veins in your head start to bulge and you either need to hack it out into your hand or risk choking.

Has this ever happened to you?

Was it a pretzel?

No. It was a kitten.

:lol2:

Dude, are you a chick?

I knew I was setting myself up for that. I couldn't think of a way to avoid saying "swallow." I just figured that no Cellion would be so unkind as to point that out.

Just re-read this with a dirty mind and ROTFLMAO!

. . .

don't we have a blow job smiley?

Yeah, now I'm really embarrassed. I'd delete my original post, but since it's been quoted twice it wouldn't do much good.

'sokay. A good laugh is worth a lot.

Pills sometimes--yeah, I know what you mean. You get it in your mouth but your throat just freezes up.

Flint also has an interesting point about ancestral water consumption, given the current medical recommendations of water, water, water.

At least tell me that I'm the first person to use Cellion in this context (Cellion: a mischievous person posting in the Cellar).

Edit: Plus, part of the reason I joined the Cellar is to get over an extreme shyness and sensitivity to public embarrassment. So, go ahead, I can take it.:bawling:

I just did a search for "Cellion" (I know I've never heard it before) and it confirmed that you made it up. Nice one.

I thought there was a place for words like this and "threadiquette."

Yeah, dude, check Cellar Meta, Hall of Fame thread. And, yeah, did I make up "threadiquette" or what? I know I've never heard that before.

Hey, thanks Flint. Thanks a lot.

I was thinking of the Word Creations thread, by Ali.

Threadiquette is here. I've been meaning to post it in Word Creations.

Yeah, somebody should do that . . . ::: is too lazy ::: Nice therad, I should check it out . . . ::: is too lazy :::

Back on topic (in a very non Cellion-esque kinda' way!), Wine can go very well with food. As opposed to cola, which can not.

I hate beer with fish. Um -- is that on topic?:unsure:

coca cola with snyder's hard pretzels

corn chips with rum

milk and toll house cookies


the elemental joy these combinations represent blows your little theory to smithereeeenes, flintcock.

You thought most wrongly though. I'm the First Cellion! Thank you!

Don't worry, we'll beat it out of you, if it comes to that. ;)

Some food faddists have inveighed against accompanying solid food with a beverage, alleging it dilutes the acids and enzymes secreted for digestion. Well, food faddists get called uncomplimentary things for a reason, don't they?

Clearly none of them had trouble getting a cold hardboiled egg down at a picnic lunch when they were kids... those things can hang up in a youngster's throat and really need a swig of something to ease the passage.

:lol:

:rotflol:

UG - the secret is to peel them first.

Nope. Digestive juices don't mix with water. It would be like saying you were "diluting" oil with vinegar.

Also not true, at least not long term. However eating foods high in moisture, or blended with water (ie soup) can make you feel fuller for longer - a lot longer actually. That's why there are so many slimming soups.

But I agree it's unnatural to drink at the same time as eating. In fact cat and dog guides caution against putting water bowls next to food - animals will drink more (and therefore keep a healthier system) if water is kept in a different location because it feels more natural to them.

I am in the unnatural camp myself - we always had a drink with our meal at home and it freaked me out to go to friends' houses and not be offered anything. I always thought it was very rude if a drink wasn't offered - I hadn't properly understood that it simply hadn't occurred to them (brief aside - a friend asked in a shocked voice if she could have a napkin when eating at my house - she was embarrassed at having to ask, my Mum was embarrassed because we never used them and I was embarrassed because everyone else was. It was perhaps the worst meal of my life)

Napkin? That's what blue jeans are for.

I would choke to death without liquid with meals. Or not eat. Hey, maybe I'm on to something. Or maybe Freud would have a heyday.

Some of my friends are sold on that nuttiness.
From, "It's BAD for you!" to "It makes you gain weight". I have yet to get them to explain how the latter works.
When I take a drink during a pause in a meal one of them will, inevitably, bring it up as if they, and four others, have not told me this fourteen times each... WHY!?:mad2:
The food stays in your stomach while th liquid moves on, why can't these people see this, why... WHY?!:mad2:

I haven't heard of that fad, but I do know that the human body is designed to do what we were doing when we were designed.

Ah but that logic excuses the Blood Group Diet (which I wanted to smack out of my Mum's hands - thank goodness she'd only borrowed it not bought it).

I know medical opinion evolves over the years, but if qualified GPs and dieticians aren't pushing this view, chances are it's not good science. My info was from a dietician - not being snotty, I asked her precisely because it sounded logical. She reassured me that logic doesn't necessarily apply when it comes to the human body. Water and digestive juices really aren't the same type of liquid. End of. I'll drink your digestive juices at any time in future that it is proved this is wrong and drinking water really dilutes them.

Cars are designed to run on gasoline, therefore they don't perform well when you put kerosene in the tank.

The human body is also designed to run on certain things. I guarantee that it will not run well if you put different things in it.

Yeah, like brussels sprouts.

I'm not denying the health benefits of a back-to-basics diet - cutting out processed food, eating raw fruit & veg, low sugar, low salt, plenty of whole grains etc.

But just because our ancestors didn't drink at the same time they ate does NOT mean it is harmful. It's apples and oranges.

And just because your doctor said so doesn't mean it's NOT harmful. I propose that the answer is not as simple as we think. For starters, given that digestive juices and water don't "mix" . . . if the stomach has a finite amount of space in it, and X amount of space is occupied by food, and X amount of space is occupied by water, can the digestive juices contact enough of the surface area of the food to do their job effectively? Can the water alter the function of the digestive juices without "mixing" with them at all? For example. It's "apples and oranges" because you disagree, because your doctor said so? Doctors sure as hell don't know everything.

My stepkids (both of them) do the weirdest thing. They take huge bites of food, really cram it in there, and then after chewing for awhile they will take a drink--and swallow the liquid while keeping the food in their mouth, then continue chewing. It is the grossest thing in the world to watch.

ew. ick. can't you break them of that?

BREAK THEM ha ha ha

of that HABIT!

(sticks out tongue. with food on it.)

I would not ever promote child abuse.

publicly.

on this here 'net thingy.

;)

I have already discussed somewhere around here how we broke the younger one of his overly picky eating habits. (I don't consider allowing mild levels of self-starvation to be child abuse, myself. They'll eat when they're hungry.) But the drinking/swallowing thing has proven to be much harder. Believe me, we've tried. What makes it hard is neither one of them "knows" how to swallow. I think it was HLJ who was mentioning the phenomenon--if you tell them to swallow, they just stare at you blankly. They aren't consciously aware of how the food gets down their throat. We've practiced chugging liquids so they can really feel each big swallow, but still I get the vacant look.

I remember "not knowing how to" blow my nose...

The human body was designed to last about 40 years under extremely difficult conditions.

Now you'll be amazed... the foods we eat are *mostly* water.

http://waltonfeed.com/self/h2ocont.html

Almonds 7%
Apples 85%
Apricots 85%
Bananas 76%
Bean Sprouts 92%
Beef Raw Hamburger 54%
Bread Whole Wheat 35%
Broccoli 91%
Butter 20%
Cabbage Raw 92%
Cantaloupe 91%
Carrots Raw 88%
Cauliflower Raw 91%
Celery 94%
Cheese American 37%
Cherries raw 80%
Chicken Broiled 71%
Coconut Dried 7%
Collards boiled 91%
Corn, Sweet Fresh 74%
Cucumbers Raw 96%
Eggs Raw Whole 74%
Eggplant Raw 92%
Fruit Cocktail 80%
Grapefruit Raw 88%
Grapes 82%
Ham Smoked Cooked 54%
Honey 15%
Jams/Preserves 30%
Kale 87%
Lettuce Head 96%
Macaroni/Spaghetti Cooked 72%
Margarine 20%
Molasses 25%
Okra Boiled 91%
Olives 80%
Onions 89%
Oranges 86%
Papyas Raw 89%
Parsley Raw 86%
Peaches Raw 90%
Peanuts Shelled Trace
Peanut Butter Trace
Pears Raw 82%
Peas Raw 81%
Pecans 7%
Peppers Green 94%
Pickles Dill 93%
Pineapple Raw 85%
Plums Raw 87%
Pork Chops Broiled 45%
Potatoes Raw 85%
Pumkin Canned 90%
Radishes Raw 95%
Raspberries 81%
Rutabas Boiled 90%
Sauerkraut Canned 93%
Spinach Raw 92%
Squash Boiled 96%
Strawberries Raw 90%
Sweet Potatoes
Boiled in Skin 71%
Swiss Chard 94%
Tomatoes Raw 93%
Turkey Roasted 62%
Veal Broiled 60%
Walnuts 4%
Watercress Raw 90%
Watermelon 93%

Yep. So if we actually ate a healthy, raw food diet, we wouldn't need to be constantly guzzling all this water.

I eat raw meat and guzzle blood. [Ozzie]

But Ronco said my home food dehydrator would make delicious and healthy snacks! Noooo! Ron Popeil has lied to me again!!

WEll, if you juice, you get your food and water together! I recommend, "The Raw Food Diet" by Natalia Rose. I drink the Green Lemonade from there regularly. It's yummy, even if it does have kale in it.

I don't understand juicing. It seems like you're taking healthy food and then just removing all the fiber.

Yeah, me neither...unless it's the same as puree-ing, so the fiber's still in there.

Now, my wife used to take the fruit pulp, dry it, and make rabbit treats out it. But still, I'd rather get that fiber myself.

you can use it to make paper, too... and potpourri ...if you;re ghey

That explains why you know that.

i also know that you can escape earth's orbit if you strap enough rocket propulsion to your ass.....but that doesn't make me an astronaut.

your mother was an astronaut, btw.