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lookout123 01-10-2008 12:28 PM

(My) Fantasy Election 2008
 
OK, as I said in another thread these tickets have almost no chance of coming together, in fact there is a greater chance of Radar changing his stance on income taxes than seeing these names in this order on the ballot. That being said, let's have a little election here and now.

The Republicans put up John McCain/Fred Thompson as the Bucket List candidates. They've been there, done that, and have the wrinkles to prove - now they want to check the White House off their list. Due to age, they are firmly committed to being a one term team.

The Democrats have sent Barak Obama/Joe Lieberman for our consideration. A mix of the new and the old, the hope and the experience. Obama's anti-war stance combined with Leiberman's support with hope for social reform from both.

Who do you vote for and why?

Wait! What's this? A late entry from the state of New York? Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani have turned their backs on their parties and entered the race as independents. Hillary had to close down her anti-war stance and return to one of her previous positions in compromise, Rudy had to change... well, not much.

So it is a three-way race folks, what say you?

aimeecc 01-10-2008 12:31 PM

Let's hear it for Clinton/Giuliani! But it'd be close... I like McCain/Thompson as well... Hmmm... But both of them are pretty old...

glatt 01-10-2008 12:41 PM

In the real world, the Clinton/Giuliani independent ticket would split the liberal vote away from Obama/Lieberman, and the Republicans would easily sweep the election. Cause this is all real world stuff, right?

lookout123 01-10-2008 12:46 PM

good point i should have also put rupaul up there.

lookout123 01-10-2008 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 423242)
Who do you vote for and why?

I know it's pompous to quote myself, but don't forget the "why?" part.

classicman 01-10-2008 03:54 PM

Oh yeah that would be directed at me, Ok, I would vote for the O8ama/Lieberman ticket because of all the D's I like Joe the best. Also its a totally unrealistic and polar ticket - I like that concept.
2nd choice is the MCcain/Thompson ticket. I will be hard pressed to vote republican this election.
Lastly, I would vote for Radar/ArethasDoc before Hillbillary, and anyone with her.

piercehawkeye45 01-10-2008 03:57 PM

Even the tw/UG ticket?

Griff 01-10-2008 03:58 PM

In real life, I abstain. Two tickets have crazy people at the top and the black man has a crazy person one bullet away. We've had 7 years of insane isn't that enough?

classicman 01-10-2008 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 423299)
Lastly, I would vote for Radar/ArethasDoc before Hillbillary, and anyone with her.

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 423301)
Even the tw/UG ticket?

Yup - For all his faults, tw is a very smart guy. I have no animosity toward him. UG - well, there is definitely a "shoot-first-and-let-God-sort-'em-out" mentality there. I think that would be a little over the top. But all that being aid, YES, I would vote for two "guys" I have only met on the internet over her!

piercehawkeye45 01-10-2008 05:15 PM

Haha, I think it would be funny seeing a neo-con as vice president and tw (probably anarcho-communist influenced) as president. They would probably be more consistent than Hilary though......imagine a Hilary/Romney duo.

ZenGum 01-10-2008 10:45 PM

Ten hours and no clone thread yet?
Come on LJ, that's your specialty.

LJ 01-10-2008 10:59 PM

i've been very sporadic lately.

aimeecc 01-14-2008 11:46 AM

I know very few are Hillary fans, but I am one of them. She has a wealth of knowledge and experience. She is savvy with international politics. She shows strength when its needed, the resolve to see things through.She also knows the in and outs of Washington politics.

I do not like Obama. He is too inexperienced and does not realize it. He has naive international policy ideas. And no backbone. He has voted "present" (instead of an actual vote) on several bills, without reason. Its the "I want to go on record as voting, but not be held accountabole for my vote" mentality. In 1999, Obama voted "present" on a bill that protected the privacy of sex-abuse victims by allowing petitions to have the trial records sealed. He was the only member to not support the bill. In 2001, Obama voted "present" on a bill prohibiting strip clubs and other adult establishments from being within 1,000 feet of schools, churches, and daycares. Why not vote?

I like McCain. I think he is the most honest broker. However, he does not support troop withdraw.

Radar 01-14-2008 11:20 PM

NOTA - None of the above.

classicman 01-15-2008 07:51 AM

So you wouldn't vote Radar? That was the fun part of this "FANTASY". Having to choose between some unrealistic choices and explain why.

lookout123 01-15-2008 09:39 AM

I guess I could have been really unrealistic and put up a third party ticket. Anyone know their names? :rolleyes:

Radar 01-15-2008 03:09 PM

I wouldn't vote for a Republican or a Democrat with a loaded gun to my head...

But the best tickets the major parties could have of those currently on the ballot would be...

Ron Paul (Pres)/McCain (VP)

vs.

Edwards (Pres)/Obama (VP)

But there is one guy who nobody in either of the major parties could beat. If this guy ran he'd be GUARANTEED to win.

Al Gore.

If Al Gore announced he wanted to be considered for the ticket at the Convention and he was chosen as the presidential candidate, nobody else in the Democratic Party or Republican party would have a chance. He'd run away with the election.

He could choose any of the other candidates as his VP (though I'd hope it wasn't Hillary), and he would win.


I wouldn't vote for any of them.

classicman 01-15-2008 04:35 PM

:shock:

xoxoxoBruce 01-15-2008 08:05 PM

I'd rather have Bush, than Gore.

Happy Monkey 01-15-2008 08:21 PM

Congrats on that.

Radar 01-15-2008 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 424773)
I'd rather have Bush, than Gore.

I'd rather have Saddam Hussein as President than George W. Bush.

ZenGum 01-16-2008 08:15 AM

But Radar, I've got dibs on Gore as the first president of my new, functioning, world government! You Americans had your chance, now wait your turn! ;) ;)

Seriously, I had given no thought to who might actually be a world president, but now that I do, he's the only one I can think of.

aimeecc 01-16-2008 09:10 AM

I'd rather have neither Bush or Gore.

Let's see... I'd like to have an election where I can choose between experienced candidates with solid positions and new ideas, with diplomatic savvy. Instead, it will be another year of choosing between the lesser of multiple evils. They are all agents of change (can we ban that word for 2008? I'm already tired of it)... there are no new ideas, and the experience in most, although relevant, means they've also learned to change their position based on the whim of the electorate to stay in power. Not the experience I want.

I still can't get over Gore pushing environmentalism when his lifestyle is as anti-green as they come. And although he didn't exactly claim to invent the internet (his words were "took the initiative in creating the internet", referring to legislative actions while in Congress), the fact is many of the core components of today's internet were in place before he was in Congress. He did sponsor or co-sponsor important legislation relating to computers and the internet in the late 80/early 90s, but that's not exactly legislatively paving the way for the internet. The information superhighway was already paved by then.

Radar 01-16-2008 10:10 AM

I'd take Gore and his level-headed view on environmentalism over any other Democratic candidate and I feel it is owed to him since he already won the election once.

aimeecc 01-16-2008 10:39 AM

He won once?

Gore may have a view on environmentalism, but he does not change his own lifestyle to actually live more eco-friendly. He and Tipper live in two properties: a 10,000-square-foot, 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville, and a 4,000-square-foot home in Arlington, Va. 10,000 sq ft for 2 people? 8 bathrooms? In both Tennessee and Virginia, utility companies offer wind energy as an alternative to traditional energy for a few extra pennies per kilowatt hour. However, Gore has not signed up to use green energy in either of his residences. Gore also has large stock holdings in Occidental (Oxy) Petroleum. "As executor of his family's trust, over the years Gore has controlled hundreds of thousands of dollars in Oxy stock. Oxy has been mired in controversy over oil drilling in ecologically sensitive areas." He flies around in the private corporate jet to promote his movie... all while burning up precious resources and contriibuting to the devestating carbon emiisions. Not exactly practicing what he preaches. Bush's Crawford ranch is more eco-friendly than Gore's Nashville mansion.

No, I'm not a Bush lover. I just think Gore is completely fake.

xoxoxoBruce 01-16-2008 03:19 PM

You're shooting the messenger, aimeecc. I understand it was in response to Radars praising the messenger, which also sucks.


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