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binky 01-15-2008 08:46 PM

Pet Problems
 
I know this is probably the wrong forum, but it does concern the relationship to our new dog, so here goes: We adopted a dog last week from our local animal shelter. He LOVES our 11 year old daughter, tolerates our 7 year old daughter, and HATES me and my husband. I think he was abused in his previous home, and I just don't know what to do (PLEASE no posts telling me to tie a pork chop around my neck, thank you). If I pick him up he growls, and when I pet him he tolerates it until he gets a chance to escape. Any suggestions you might have would be very helpful!

Aliantha 01-15-2008 08:51 PM

maybe something you could do is make sure you're the one to feed him and groom him etc. so he knows you're really the one that's looking after him and that you're the boss.

don't let the growling go on. It'll get out of control and before you know it, he'll be snapping at you. You have to assert your authority as the leader, but do it in a loving way. Probably should have a talk to an animal specialist such as a vet maybe, or animal training school. they might be able to help more.

lostskye 01-15-2008 08:55 PM

Is he fixed?

Is there any trainers near you? Get some training from a tough trainer...I suspect you and your hubby look 'alpha' to him but he thinks he is alpha over the kids.

xoxoxoBruce 01-15-2008 09:06 PM

Aliantha's spot on, you have to establish the pecking order right away.

DucksNuts 01-15-2008 09:24 PM

What kind of dog is he? What age?

The fact that he is trying to *escape*, it sounds to me more a fear growl than an alpha growl.

Does he look timid or wary when he is growling...or is he being bossy and telling you to piss off?

I agree with Ali and Bruce if he's being bossy and alpha-ish, but if he is growling out of fear (due to previous abuse)....its a hugely different kettle of fish.

If its a confidence thing, it will take some time to win him over and let him trust you and your husband arent going to harm him.

Feed him, sit in *his* room or area, where he feels comfortable with some treats and let him get to know you on his turns....with some special treats as encouragement.

Over here, adoption and rehousing shelters do a lot of work establishing the temperament and needs of the dog, before matching them with the correct family.

Did they give you any indication to what kind of personality this fellow had?

binky 01-15-2008 09:34 PM

He is fixed, and a grown Chihuaha(?) mix, not old and his growling is not bossy, it is fearful. I do think he might have been abused by adults in his previous home, so we are being gentle and patient, and I think I will call the humane society (where we got him) for any tips they can provide. I guess I should be glad that he likes ONE of us, doesn't chew anything, or go to the bathroom in the house, and we will just have to give him some time

ZenGum 01-15-2008 09:38 PM

Maybe he liked the abuse. So get with the rolled-up newspaper, you know he wants it...

:bolt:

DucksNuts 01-15-2008 09:44 PM

Yeah, ditch the discipline approach then and go with the encouraging, treat approach.

Dogs are a sucker for food rewards, you will win him over :)

lookout123 01-15-2008 10:04 PM

Your compassion levels may be much higher than mine, but I would have serious second thoughts about keeping the little guy around. If he has been abused you may get him to warm up to you, but there will always be the risk of him getting startled and turning on you, or worse - one of the kids.

DucksNuts 01-15-2008 10:09 PM

I might agree with Lookout if there were little kids involved.

xoxoxoBruce 01-15-2008 10:47 PM

A trainer once told me that when you pick up a small dog, off the floor or even furniture, snatch them quickly. If you fumble around trying to get a comfortable grip, or pet them first, they are likely to nip you. If you snatch them so they are way off the ground quickly, they settle down quickly for fear of falling.

classicman 01-15-2008 10:48 PM

That just doesn't sound like a good plan with this "unfamiliar" dog to me. If he is skittish already quick movements are probably not a good idea.

BrianR 01-16-2008 01:17 AM

Dogs communicate differently than humans do. To them, body language is everything. Looming over them, reaching down from the sides or top is threatening and something to be feared. Little dogs are more prone to fear due to their small size and feeds their almost universal "Napoleon Complex".

There are lots of free websites dealing with this subject. Try here or here or even here for more information.

lumberjim 01-16-2008 01:28 AM

chihuahuas are high strung to begin with... if it's got issues with abuse or pack structure probably even more so..... you need staceyv here. she's our tacobell dog authority. anyone got her email addy?

DanaC 01-16-2008 04:16 AM

Just an addition to some of the advice here: don't try to hard to win the dog round. Be calm and give treats and stuff but don't keep approaching him with affection. Once he's settled in (and that might take a while) and beginning to feel more confident, he'll likely come around. If he feels sure you are the leaders of the pack, and feels confident you present no threat, he will eventually ( I think) start to court you for your approval and affection.

BrianR 01-16-2008 08:28 AM

I find that I have a lot of success with the "Hard to Get" approach.

binky 01-16-2008 01:48 PM

This dog would not care if he never got me, but thanks for all the suggestions guys, and the links Brian I guess we'll just keep trying to win him over:fingerx: wish me luck

binky 01-17-2008 08:07 PM

Update on the dog - I decided to take him for a walk today, about a half mile to 11 yr olds school, then she could walk him home. Little shit slips out of his collar a block from the school, so I followed him back to my house, put him in and went back to meet my daughter :mad2: The "glass is half full" part of me is just glad he could find his way home after only a week since he wouldn't let me pick him up to get his collar back on, but the other part of my brain is despairing that this dog is never going to like me

TheMercenary 01-20-2008 07:46 AM

Call the Dog Whisperer...

keep a bag of really tastey soft smelly treats in a ziplock in your pocket. Every time you pat him on the head give him 1/4 or 1/2 of the treat. Then ignore him. After a while he will be following you around. You'll have him eating out of your hand.

binky 01-20-2008 10:53 AM

good idea merc. He already has me pegged as the one to beg for dinner scraps from

classicman 01-20-2008 11:11 AM

just keep the treats in your pocket in a bag - he'll smell them on you & you'll be his one true love soon enough.

TheMercenary 01-20-2008 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by binky (Post 425932)
good idea merc. He already has me pegged as the one to beg for dinner scraps from

Dog treats, soft ones, can be really high in calories. We buy them and cut them into quarters and fill a bag. Fee them in a behavioral modification method. Only when the dog does what it wants you to do. In short order your dog will do anything for you.

classicman 01-20-2008 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 425942)
Dog treats, soft ones, can be really high in calories. We buy them and cut them into quarters and fill a bag. Fee them in a behavioral modification method. Only when the dog does what it wants you to do. In short order your dog will do anything for you.

did you mean
Quote:

Only when the dog does what YOU want IT to do?

TheMercenary 01-20-2008 05:49 PM

yea, that. unless the dog turns around and starts to give you treats, then you may be in trouble.

classicman 01-20-2008 06:30 PM

Well the reason I asked is so that cat owners understand :p Cats wait till there owners do what the cat wants and then..... oh never mind.


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