Backdoor in MySpace
 

MySpace Bug Leaks 'Private' Teen Photos to Voyeurs

Isn't that great!

Anything can be hacked, so we should shut everything down. Close the internet, burn all the books, and behead all the infidels.

So ummm, how does it work?

And then we should behead the SP's!!!!

Another good reason why I won't let my 12yr old daughter have a MySpace page!

Why are kids posting compromising pictures, even for their friends?

Because they don't understand how the internet works.:D

No, besides that. If they had no internet would they be taking the same pictures and showing all their friends? There's more to this than ignorance of the internet.

...yeah, immaturity and stupidity.

I busted both of my youngest teens for passing themselves off as older than they were on their myspace accounts. Our spyware gave us the passwords.

I know we've had this fight before but youre an asshole with no respect for any kind of privacy.

Where are your children supposed to learn things like respect for personal space and privacy, if you go and do things like this to them?

I would not even entertain a converstation with you over it. You are not a parent with (at the time) a 14 year old girl. Get over it.

I am a computer network admin/engineer.

My House = My Rules

Nobody in my house has any presumption of privacy when it comes to using a computer. I am the keeper of all passwords, and I can and will check up on my wife, kids, or anyone else who uses a computer in my house.

My kids will have respect for personal space and privacy because they will have personal space and privacy in other areas, just not in their communications or interactions with adults.

I also intend to put satellite tracking, speed monitoring, etc. on any car my kids have until they move out. I will know where they are, whom they are with, and what they are doing at all times. If my kids act too badly, I'll put a camera in their room.

And there isn't a damn thing wrong with this.

Ibs, I like you dude, but you need to understand that children have no right to privacy that isn't given to them at the discretion of the parent. There is a reason for that: parents are responsible for the safety of the child and safety is far more important than hurt feelings. No you won't agree until you have a child of your own. No that isn't meant to be patronizing. It just is what it is.

Then why is the argument that the government can spy on you and limit your freedoms not a valid one? theyre only trying to protect you after all.

Radar, if you truly supported libertarianism, you would support it on all levels, from the UN to the federal to the state to the local to the PERSONAL level.
THAT is what libertarianism and freedom is about, for me.
It goes to ALL levels. You can't support absolute rule in one area, and no rule in another.

Should we call you big brother, Radar?


















j/k :D

because the government is "my" servant and "I" am not a minor?

Your WIFE? you don't trust your wife? Do you "allow" her the reciprocal right?
how old are your kids again? Oh, I see...... you dictate which mice are beyond help and can be considered teething aids. you da man. :D

The government is your servant no more than your parents are. The government is that which tells you what to do.
And why should your being or not being a minor matter? Why do we deem it appropriate to deny a huge percentage of our people rights?

or do human rights only apply conditionally... to those old enough to deserve them?

Do you elect your parents? Do you pay their salaries?

since when is myspace privacy a human right?

would you allow an 8 year old unlimited access to all the videos on youtube? (If so, please, get a vasectomy now). Would you allow your 10 year old to post pictures of themselves and a phone number on the walls of the sex offenders wing in the max security jail? or even the local Walmart?

Would you think me a bad parent if I allowed my children to do that?

My wife has her own computer. I have my own computer. I have no reason to know what my wife is doing on her computer, we share everything we do. We have 2 other computers that are desk tops which I allow my kids to use. My oldest, now in college has her own computer, what she does on it is her business, not mine, I only care that she studies hard and gets good grades so my money is not wasted. We use this and love it, it has saved us numerous times:

http://www.spector.com/parental-monitoring.html

Libertarians do support freedom on all levels. I have the freedom to determine which rules will happen in my household. I have the freedom to use any surveillance I want in my house on any activities in my house.

I make all decisions with regard to the safety and privacy of my children. It sucks for them, but I'm not in a popularity contest. This isn't a democracy, it's a dictatorship. I decide what happens in my household for myself and my children. This is personal liberty and it does not deviate from libertarianism.

My wife has an administrative account on my computer. If she can figure out how to check up on me, she is welcome to do it. I have nothing to hide.

Right now my daughter is 8 months old. I miss the hell out of her. She's in Vietnam with her mother for Tet. I will join them on February 29th.

As my daughter grows up, I'll make all decisions regarding her medical care, nutrition, education, safety, and privacy. I'll teach her about freedom and liberty, and let her know the rules of my house.

The valid role and scope of governmental power is only to carry out what rights we have as individuals but have granted to government. Government may never tell us what to do unless our actions violate the person, rights, or property of non-consenting others. The valid role and scope of parental powers is to make each and every single decision regarding the lives and safety of their children from birth until the moment they move out on their own.

Wow really? So the first decision your "child" makes will be after she moves out of your home? I gotta believe I'm misreading this.

The first decision they get to make that I don't decide whether or not they get to make it, is when they move out.

I may allow them to make decisions, but I may not. The first decision they'll be able to make without my permission is when they move out.

clarification
 

Which they will do at age 14.

SO....you're finding Tet ....offensive?

mercy and Radar.... I'm pretty sure I strongly disagree with your methods. Let me ask for some clarification. Speaking as the involved, caring, responsible parent each of you is trying to be, what do you have to say about teaching them about personal responsibility? What is your perspective teaching them independent thinking?

Oh good God. Teaching my children about personal responsibility has is directly tied to the stuff we have discovered about on-line activities. We are able to call them on stuff they have tried to hide from us {as all teens will do} and make them think twice about a poor decision they have made. It is very simple. The most important thing I have taught my kids, regardless of the internet activities, is do the crime do the time. If you make bad decisions ou will take responsibility for your actions. I don't care what the bad decision is, you will accept full responsibility for your decisions and your actions. My kids know that. My son has learned it the hard way. My daughters not so hard, but they know the rules in my house.

The thought that I would need to teach any of my kids "independent thinking" is a joke. They are way ahead of that road block.

Flint, thanks for the unnecessary clarification.

every time i see this thread bumped, I think some one is referring to anal sex shown on my space. I think this indicates that I watch too much pr0n online.

....hmm.....wonder whats on the hun?

I think you got it pretty right on there Merc!

Bullshit. You quoted someone and added your own bold type, to skew the meaning towards what you wanted to argue about. So I did the same thing, but highlighed a different section, to reinforce the information you tried to ignore. If you don't like that, then don't try to spin quotes.

I didn't try to spin shit and I really don't appreciate the inference either. I wanted to discuss the part I highlighted - thats all, nothing more.
Radar replied to me without any attitude and I think we both knew/know what we were talking about. Thanks though and BS right back atcha.

In that case, I apologize for assuming that your misdirection was deliberate; not due to poor reading comprehension, as you insist.

*wipes coffee off screen* nice come back flint.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here...





























that's all. You people are scaring me so I'm going out on a limb. :D

Sheldon's full of it. He's haunting the backdoor thread on purpose.
:)
As soon as I saw his name I said to myself, "Oh what a freakin' surprise". "It's Sheldon."

lol!!

Interesting choice of words "misdirection"& "deliberate" - the connotations are typically quite negative. I'm not sure the reason for your interest in what I did anyway since my question was not directed towards you.
Seems as though yours was a most backhanded apology, in which case you can go.....

In case I am mistaken, which happens from time to time - apology accepted.

What's wrong with you people? I run several porno servers with over 1,134,000 images. All three of my teenagers have access as administrators and help me manage the sites every day. I will vote for Hillary in the upcoming election, and I have a swastika proudly tatooed on my right fist.

I aint skeered of nobody and my kids are touger than me. They all been smokin the dope since they were 8 or 9 and they lost their virginity to their cousins about the same time.

I just don't think we should have rules...who's with me??? :p

Fail

The 'job' of a parent is to nurture the new member of the human race they have chosen to spawn, providing them with the increasing knowledge, experience and self reliance so that when they eventually become a fully responsible member of society they are equipped to take on that role and be a personally fulfilled citizen.

....and create an independent attitude to be a productive asset to society not a drain.

Nonsense, whip 'em, beat 'em, make 'em cower. Prepare 'em for the corporate overlords.

I haunt many "backdoors" but not on line. ;)

And not get busted by the cops/school/teachers/other parents for making dumbassed teenager decisions or get pregnant as a teen or get someone else pregnant as a teen.

In my house and family, I make the rules. If the minors in my house don't like the rules, they are free to campaign to change them. This may or may not be successful depending on their reasoning and campaign promises (as well as follow-through).

We also do not attempt to skate around rules other people have for themselves or their organizations. So since MySpace has an age limit of 14, my 12 yr old may not pretend to be 15 in order to put up a page.

I do not invade their privacy unless they break the rules, or give me reason to not trust them. For example, my children are not allowed to do illegal drugs or alcohol. If they smell of either one, or I see a beer bottle/roach in the trash, all trust/privacy issues are nil. They have forfeited that right by breaking my trust. Full search and seizure will ensue as well as heavy restrictions in their freedom.

My goal is to raise responsible, honorable young adults who behave with integrity. I want them to understand that any choice you make has consequences and to consider that before you choose. I also want them to realize that they are not powerless and totally at the mercy of external forces. I'm trying to teach them that if they disagree with a rule, law or a political leader/direction, they can attempt to change the situation, through lawful means.

Stormie