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Shawnee123 02-01-2008 11:49 AM

Today is International Non-sequitur Day
 
If you hadn't noticed. Let's do it up right folks, I'll start you out:

Quote:

Some cars have carburetors that don't work very well.
Quote:

I know. Green is my favorite color.
Ok....go!

ZenGum 02-01-2008 11:55 AM

Wombats' brains have shrunk over the last two million years but their skulls haven't.

HungLikeJesus 02-01-2008 11:55 AM

How can you have a non-sequitur in a non-sequitur thread?

lumberjim 02-01-2008 11:58 AM

and now, for something completely different.

or is that a segue?

Shawnee123 02-01-2008 12:02 PM

Because it's organically grown, you fools.

HungLikeJesus 02-01-2008 12:31 PM

What do you mean by 'International'?

Flint 02-01-2008 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 428501)
Five!


xoxoxoBruce 02-01-2008 01:00 PM

No non about it, it was a real sequitur.
A big one... with bloodshot eyes and hairy knuckles.
I killed it.

Shawnee123 02-01-2008 01:00 PM

The correct answer is B.

Spexxvet 02-01-2008 01:22 PM

Chocolate catcher's mitt.

Shawnee123 02-01-2008 01:42 PM

Not if you do it right.

Happy Monkey 02-01-2008 01:47 PM

So I seem huge, squishy, and sinuously intertwined?

kerosene 02-01-2008 01:53 PM

I don't get it...I thought the bee was suppose to pollinate itself...and what is with the traveling wine bonzai?

lookout123 02-01-2008 02:00 PM

42

kerosene 02-01-2008 02:06 PM

fuck! where is my sword?

bbro 02-01-2008 02:08 PM

PICKLES!

monster 02-01-2008 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by case (Post 429183)
fuck! where is my sword?

I think rich had it in the NSFWWTF thread which goes to show he was trying to type a letter

lumberjim 02-01-2008 02:31 PM

this is just an anti association thread.

Shawnee123 02-01-2008 02:32 PM

Mrs McGillacuddy makes the cutest Santa Claus dolls out of empty Clorox bottles.

Flint 02-01-2008 03:46 PM

a band supposedly named after a dildo
 
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on the counter
by your keys
is a book of numbers
and your "remedies"

one of each
will surely screen out the sorrow
but where are you
tommorrow?

lookout123 02-01-2008 06:30 PM

Quote:

a band supposedly named after a dildo
Dave Matthews Band?

Undertoad 02-01-2008 09:45 PM

(steely dan - black cow. I always thought, with the exception of that one brilliant Steve Gadd jam, they kept the drums way too subdued on Aja.)

ZenGum 02-01-2008 09:56 PM

Hey, you, stop with the sequiturs already.

Oh damn. :smack:


ahh, ahh, I like sushi but I don't like natto.

Flint 02-01-2008 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 429270)
I always thought, with the exception of that one brilliant Steve Gadd jam, they kept the drums way too subdued on Aja.

Really?! I'm surprised to hear that. I consider the drum performances on Aja to be pretty much the gold standard. Playing exactly what is needed, with no unnecessary notes, and laying down a big, comfortable groove cushion for the band. Jim Keltner's ultra-minimalistic drum fills on Josie! Bernard Purdie's "Purdie Shuffle" on Home At Last! Rick Marotta on Peg, my God - another masterpiece! Ed Greene's famous "dagga-doo" fill on I Got The News. We're talking about an album that's like the Bible of sophisticated, mature drumming in popular music. I mean, yeah, it's subdued, that's the whole point! Playing a smooth, solid part. Submitting yourself and your body to the purposes of the almighty groove.

Undertoad 02-01-2008 11:34 PM

I'll have to revisit my thought - it was a thought I had 25 years ago and it might be tempered by maturity and understanding.

Flint 02-01-2008 11:36 PM

When I was younger I thought only Prog and Fusion were where it's at, because they played so many of notes and so many odd time signatures. I was so incredibly wrong. I can't describe the joy I've learned to get out of playing almost nothing. My job as a drummer is a support role, and that's it.

Undertoad 02-02-2008 12:55 AM

But in the case of Steely Dan, there's all that fusion in it, but all the hard work is designated to the other instruments. The most complicated chord structures you'd ever want! And why does Gadd get to go off but nobody else does?

Flint 02-02-2008 09:41 AM

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And why does Gadd get to go off but nobody else does?
I would ask the question in a different way: Why did they only write one song for the album where it was appropriate for the drummer to go off?

But the answer may have something more to do with their tendency to bring in a bunch of different session players, let them do their own thing, and pick the guy that fits the song the best. They didn't know in advance that Home At Last would have a Purdie Shuffle, but when you hear it that way, you know that's it.

Aja may simply be the product of Gadd doing his Gadd thing, creating these mind-blowing parts that leave you standing there with your jaw on the floor, while, for him, it's just another day at the office. Of course, the song was written with these big wide-open spaces in it, but, who would have ever thought that Gadd would have played what he did? Maybe they knew they had some space to fill, so they just unleashed Gadd on it. Most of the other guys, when there was space, just left the space, and that sound good too. I don't know, dude. That's a good question.

lumberjim 02-02-2008 11:09 AM

do you like dags?


ps... steely dan is the worst.

Undertoad 02-02-2008 11:25 AM

Re-listening -- you are right. Where Gadd goes off, the rest of the crew is usually honking out one chord. Everything else is complicated, so if the drums are complicated it's gonna be too busy.

If you play drums for Steely Dan, you have to master the ping tang ting of gently touching cymbals.

Holy crap, I keep getting distracted by Becker's amazing bass parts.

Shawnee123 02-04-2008 01:14 PM

My favorite band: Steely Dan
Favorite album from that band: Aja
Favorite song on that album: Black Cow

Luckily, non-sequitur day has ended. :)

lumberjim 02-04-2008 02:24 PM

the guy that sang Ghostbusters is better than Steely Dan
http://www.backtothe80s.com/images/r...hartbus_cd.jpg

Flint 02-04-2008 02:32 PM

Yeah, he's so good that his only hit was a rip-off of Huey Lewis that he got sued for.

For those how aren't aware of this: Steely Dan isn't a "band" - it's two musician/arrangers who gathered together the greatest combination(s) of first-call studio players ever assembled, picking and choosing for each track who the line-up would be, down to bringing in dozens of guys in to track just the right guitar solo for any given song.

If one were to have any interest in quality musicianship, this band should be an encyclopedia of technique.

Undertoad 02-04-2008 02:33 PM

You can't be our friend any more

lumberjim 02-04-2008 02:35 PM

if liking steely dan is on your deal breaker list, then yes. we cannot.

Shawnee123 02-04-2008 02:39 PM

Yep, Flint: Becker and Fagan. I did know that, but also got some good schooling about them from my ex, the piano player.

lumberjim 02-04-2008 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint (Post 429690)
For those how aren't aware of this: Steely Dan isn't a "band" - it's two musician/arrangers who gathered together the greatest combination(s) of first-call studio players ever assembled, picking and choosing for each track who the line-up would be, down to bringing in dozens of guys in to track just the right guitar solo for any given song.

If one were to have any interest in quality musicianship, this band should be an encyclopedia of technique.

yeah, yeah. an orchestral approach to rock music. guess what? that doesn't blow my skirt up even a little bit.

In fact.....'the White Stripes' is all I have to say in reply. you think about that, mister. think long and hard.

Flint 02-04-2008 03:00 PM

I didn't say it was an orchestral approach; but since you mention it, what, you don't like Dark Side of the Moon? For instance. There's never been any music that you liked that was planned out in any way? As far as you know, you've been duped hundreds of times by bands that try to appear "gritty" and spontaneous.

I don't know enough about the White Stripes to have any thoughts about them. I think I heard that one song they did a while back, on the jukebox in a bar, or something. And, there was that one song on the opening credits to Napoleon Dynamite. As far as I know, you have the one dude playing blues chords while the chick he's doing does a Ringo impersonation, right?

Undertoad 02-04-2008 04:19 PM

LJ: Hey aren't you that guy Picasso? That guy who paints?

Picasso: Yes, I am he.

LJ: Oh wow! I like paintings... you know my favorites? Those paintings of the little waif girls with the great big eyes. You know, the ones they used to have at motels? They're cute, but at the same time they're kind of sad, you know?

lumberjim 02-04-2008 04:43 PM

UT: excuse me, fellas, I need to get past you here....I wet the bed again, and i dont want my piss sheets to get on you.....stand back just a bit if you would? thanks.

Flint 02-04-2008 05:50 PM

And, by the way, the reason you learn more technique is so you can be more expressive. If a musical situation calls for a certain thing, and you don't have that skill, then the expression suffers because you didn't do your homework.

Do highly technical players tend to get that "polished" sound? Sometimes, but isn't that just the sound of them knowing what the fuck they're doing?

Not that there isn't some quaint charm to listening to some sweaty dude play his three favorite riffs/only three riffs he knows, in every situation, but seriously, how many times do you need to hear him express that same old "feeling" - and it isn't that he doesn't have more nuanced emotions inside him, it's just that he doesn't have the technical skills necessary to express them. And he lashes out at more technical music in a "sour grapes" fashion.

lumberjim 02-04-2008 06:14 PM

or perhaps he has the skills, but sees that the message he's trying to convey has no need of them? or maybe he doesn't have need of that skill because he is able to express his feeling with his 3 riffs. why does it have to be sour grapes? maybe the super technical guy that knows all the chords and techniques is covering his lack of soul by barraging the listener with piles of intertwined tripe? dja ever think of that? huh, white boi?


the more concerned you are with using all of your tricks and skills, the less concerned you can be with communicating the emotion in a piece of music. there are those 'sweaty guys' and 'polished guys' out there. i was just saying that i tend to like loud drums, and heavy bass, and powerful guitar. lyrics can be jibberish as long as the sound of the voice is good, and it fits with the song.

that said, i DO like some intricate stuff....like Bach....etc....but USUALLY, given my druthers.....let's get the Led out!

Cicero 02-04-2008 06:20 PM

[quote=Flint;429690]Yeah, he's so good that his only hit was a rip-off of Huey Lewis that he got sued for.

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American Psycho liked Huey Lewis, but Huey Lewis didn't like American Psycho........Imagine that, Huey Lewis saying that a movie soundtrack isn't good enough for them...after such hits as "I want a new drug"...... I guess they might be as sensitive as me...I don't want them to make a come-back either....:) linky:

http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/...ndtrack_recall

(Proving once and for all that you can't be friends just because of similar music taste :))

warch 02-04-2008 07:21 PM

How can you say Led is not intricate? Pshaw.

Dan does Dan very well. Led does Led.

Its a matter of good creative choice. Like a great chef.

Flint 02-04-2008 10:25 PM

There's nothing worse than a guy with blazing chops, who has no subtlety, and cranks out impossible patterns at 90mph, with no regard for musical expression. Oh, wait, yes there is, it's the guy with no chops, who drones on about his self-centered feelings in one song after another that sounds exactly the same.

Neither type of player is desirable. But, given the choice, I will say that the well-practiced guy can do what the other guy does, if the situation calls for it; whereas the other guy, just can't do much at all, except masturbate. No matter what the situation calls for, he will make it all sound the same, because that's all he can do.

Now if he has brilliant lyrics, he might be a Bob Dylan. Whereas the other guy just might someday be an Yngwie Malmsteen. It takes all types.

The point is to be well-centered, and have a big toolbox.

Aliantha 02-04-2008 10:25 PM

Music is very important to most cultures, so go have a hamburger.

lumberjim 02-04-2008 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warch (Post 429778)
How can you say Led is not intricate? Pshaw.

Dan does Dan very well. Led does Led.

Its a matter of good creative choice. Like a great chef.

in the early days of zeppelin, jimmy page and robert were in total control of the band, and the music was quite strong and simple......in later years, when robert was struggling with various personal tragedies, and jimmy was hooked on smack, john paul jones took charge of the arangements....they became much more complex and diverse. i like both, but prefer the early days.

Flint 02-04-2008 10:30 PM

I will have a lumburger.

I typically prefer the early days of Zep, as well as just about anybody else. Although Physical Graffiti is one of my desert album albums.

lumberjim 02-04-2008 10:31 PM

ORLY???
http://thehousingcollapse.com/wp-con...08/lumberg.jpg

Flint 02-04-2008 10:33 PM

Hey look, it's lumbergjim.

Aliantha 02-04-2008 10:34 PM

When you talk about music, it's important to scratch your arse because someone could be looking.

Ibby 02-05-2008 01:48 AM

(I know what can distract both of you! give you both a new target!)

So whadd'y'all think of Post-Rock?

warch 02-05-2008 09:47 AM

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There's nothing worse than a guy with blazing chops, who has no subtlety, and cranks out impossible patterns at 90mph, with no regard for musical expression.
Like that dude from Blues Traveler that just wanks and wanks?


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Oh, wait, yes there is, it's the guy with no chops, who drones on about his self-centered feelings in one song after another that sounds exactly the same.
Gonna get in trouble here....ya mean like the Grateful Dead?

Shawnee123 02-05-2008 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warch (Post 429886)
Like that dude from Blues Traveler that just wanks and wanks?



How about Kenny G...whose musical stylings consist of playing the scales. :greenface

lumberjim 02-05-2008 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warch (Post 429886)


Gonna get in trouble here....ya mean like the Grateful Dead?

YOU'RE IN BIG TROUBLE HERE, MISSY!

Flint 02-05-2008 11:50 AM

another great non-sequitur
 
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I'm alternating between heavy and light
Between meaning and nonsense
And having a drink

I have counted all the lines on the road
Between here and Los Angeles
That pass straight below

And I'm dreaming of a light, and it comes from your head
'Cause you move just like you're a train
Not like a car, no, no, it would never be the same
And the light from your eyes is like the light from a cake

I was thinking of a cake
To lift off this burden
To lighten this weight

Wind, sweet little cake dervishes
From the head of a pin
We are sleeping like angels
And living like devils again

And I am waiting for the heaviness in the air to break
And reveal some small, irrelevant truth
'Cause we move like we are suspended in amber
And the light from your eyes spills from the moon


Ibby 02-05-2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 429847)
(I know what can distract both of you! give you both a new target!)

So whadd'y'all think of Post-Rock?

Uhm, lets try this again.


So whadd'y'all think of Post-Rock?

Shawnee123 02-05-2008 11:58 AM

I've never fucking heard of it.

lookout123 02-05-2008 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 429928)
Uhm, lets try this again.


So whadd'y'all think of Post-Rock?

Sometimes the decision not to answer is all the answer you need.


But seriously, give us an example of what "post-rock" is since most labels are completely worthless.

Cicero 02-05-2008 12:37 PM

Post Punk is better?

Oh wait, isn't post rock and post punk the same damned thing as "rock" and "punk"? Except it's cool enough to listen to because it has a new snazzy genre title attached that is completely unneccessary?


Post-rock is a music genre characterized by the use of musical instruments commonly associated with rock music, but utilizing rhythms, harmonies, melodies, timbre, and chord progressions that are not found in rock tradition. Simply put, it is the use of 'rock instrumentation' for non-rock purposes. Practitioners of the genre's style typically produce instrumental music.[1][2][3]

As with many musical genres, the term is arguably inadequate as a concise descriptor: for example, Don Caballero and Mogwai were among the more prominent bands of the 1990s described as post rock, but the two bands' music has very little in common besides the fact that they are both largely instrumental. As such, the term has been the subject of backlash from listeners and artists alike.[4]

Although firmly rooted in the indie scene of the 1980s and '90s, post-rock's style bears little resemblance musically to that of indie rock.[3][2]

IT's Rock mmmmkay? Non-traditional rock is still rock. K kiddies? There is no post about it....


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