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Today is International Non-sequitur Day
If you hadn't noticed. Let's do it up right folks, I'll start you out:
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Wombats' brains have shrunk over the last two million years but their skulls haven't.
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How can you have a non-sequitur in a non-sequitur thread?
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and now, for something completely different.
or is that a segue? |
Because it's organically grown, you fools.
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What do you mean by 'International'?
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No non about it, it was a real sequitur.
A big one... with bloodshot eyes and hairy knuckles. I killed it. |
The correct answer is B.
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Chocolate catcher's mitt.
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Not if you do it right.
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So I seem huge, squishy, and sinuously intertwined?
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I don't get it...I thought the bee was suppose to pollinate itself...and what is with the traveling wine bonzai?
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fuck! where is my sword?
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PICKLES!
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this is just an anti association thread.
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Mrs McGillacuddy makes the cutest Santa Claus dolls out of empty Clorox bottles.
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a band supposedly named after a dildo
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(steely dan - black cow. I always thought, with the exception of that one brilliant Steve Gadd jam, they kept the drums way too subdued on Aja.)
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Hey, you, stop with the sequiturs already.
Oh damn. :smack: ahh, ahh, I like sushi but I don't like natto. |
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I'll have to revisit my thought - it was a thought I had 25 years ago and it might be tempered by maturity and understanding.
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When I was younger I thought only Prog and Fusion were where it's at, because they played so many of notes and so many odd time signatures. I was so incredibly wrong. I can't describe the joy I've learned to get out of playing almost nothing. My job as a drummer is a support role, and that's it.
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But in the case of Steely Dan, there's all that fusion in it, but all the hard work is designated to the other instruments. The most complicated chord structures you'd ever want! And why does Gadd get to go off but nobody else does?
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But the answer may have something more to do with their tendency to bring in a bunch of different session players, let them do their own thing, and pick the guy that fits the song the best. They didn't know in advance that Home At Last would have a Purdie Shuffle, but when you hear it that way, you know that's it. Aja may simply be the product of Gadd doing his Gadd thing, creating these mind-blowing parts that leave you standing there with your jaw on the floor, while, for him, it's just another day at the office. Of course, the song was written with these big wide-open spaces in it, but, who would have ever thought that Gadd would have played what he did? Maybe they knew they had some space to fill, so they just unleashed Gadd on it. Most of the other guys, when there was space, just left the space, and that sound good too. I don't know, dude. That's a good question. |
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Re-listening -- you are right. Where Gadd goes off, the rest of the crew is usually honking out one chord. Everything else is complicated, so if the drums are complicated it's gonna be too busy.
If you play drums for Steely Dan, you have to master the ping tang ting of gently touching cymbals. Holy crap, I keep getting distracted by Becker's amazing bass parts. |
My favorite band: Steely Dan
Favorite album from that band: Aja Favorite song on that album: Black Cow Luckily, non-sequitur day has ended. :) |
the guy that sang Ghostbusters is better than Steely Dan
http://www.backtothe80s.com/images/r...hartbus_cd.jpg |
Yeah, he's so good that his only hit was a rip-off of Huey Lewis that he got sued for.
For those how aren't aware of this: Steely Dan isn't a "band" - it's two musician/arrangers who gathered together the greatest combination(s) of first-call studio players ever assembled, picking and choosing for each track who the line-up would be, down to bringing in dozens of guys in to track just the right guitar solo for any given song. If one were to have any interest in quality musicianship, this band should be an encyclopedia of technique. |
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if liking steely dan is on your deal breaker list, then yes. we cannot.
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Yep, Flint: Becker and Fagan. I did know that, but also got some good schooling about them from my ex, the piano player.
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In fact.....'the White Stripes' is all I have to say in reply. you think about that, mister. think long and hard. |
I didn't say it was an orchestral approach; but since you mention it, what, you don't like Dark Side of the Moon? For instance. There's never been any music that you liked that was planned out in any way? As far as you know, you've been duped hundreds of times by bands that try to appear "gritty" and spontaneous.
I don't know enough about the White Stripes to have any thoughts about them. I think I heard that one song they did a while back, on the jukebox in a bar, or something. And, there was that one song on the opening credits to Napoleon Dynamite. As far as I know, you have the one dude playing blues chords while the chick he's doing does a Ringo impersonation, right? |
LJ: Hey aren't you that guy Picasso? That guy who paints?
Picasso: Yes, I am he. LJ: Oh wow! I like paintings... you know my favorites? Those paintings of the little waif girls with the great big eyes. You know, the ones they used to have at motels? They're cute, but at the same time they're kind of sad, you know? |
UT: excuse me, fellas, I need to get past you here....I wet the bed again, and i dont want my piss sheets to get on you.....stand back just a bit if you would? thanks.
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And, by the way, the reason you learn more technique is so you can be more expressive. If a musical situation calls for a certain thing, and you don't have that skill, then the expression suffers because you didn't do your homework.
Do highly technical players tend to get that "polished" sound? Sometimes, but isn't that just the sound of them knowing what the fuck they're doing? Not that there isn't some quaint charm to listening to some sweaty dude play his three favorite riffs/only three riffs he knows, in every situation, but seriously, how many times do you need to hear him express that same old "feeling" - and it isn't that he doesn't have more nuanced emotions inside him, it's just that he doesn't have the technical skills necessary to express them. And he lashes out at more technical music in a "sour grapes" fashion. |
or perhaps he has the skills, but sees that the message he's trying to convey has no need of them? or maybe he doesn't have need of that skill because he is able to express his feeling with his 3 riffs. why does it have to be sour grapes? maybe the super technical guy that knows all the chords and techniques is covering his lack of soul by barraging the listener with piles of intertwined tripe? dja ever think of that? huh, white boi?
the more concerned you are with using all of your tricks and skills, the less concerned you can be with communicating the emotion in a piece of music. there are those 'sweaty guys' and 'polished guys' out there. i was just saying that i tend to like loud drums, and heavy bass, and powerful guitar. lyrics can be jibberish as long as the sound of the voice is good, and it fits with the song. that said, i DO like some intricate stuff....like Bach....etc....but USUALLY, given my druthers.....let's get the Led out! |
[quote=Flint;429690]Yeah, he's so good that his only hit was a rip-off of Huey Lewis that he got sued for.
QUOTE] American Psycho liked Huey Lewis, but Huey Lewis didn't like American Psycho........Imagine that, Huey Lewis saying that a movie soundtrack isn't good enough for them...after such hits as "I want a new drug"...... I guess they might be as sensitive as me...I don't want them to make a come-back either....:) linky: http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/...ndtrack_recall (Proving once and for all that you can't be friends just because of similar music taste :)) |
How can you say Led is not intricate? Pshaw.
Dan does Dan very well. Led does Led. Its a matter of good creative choice. Like a great chef. |
There's nothing worse than a guy with blazing chops, who has no subtlety, and cranks out impossible patterns at 90mph, with no regard for musical expression. Oh, wait, yes there is, it's the guy with no chops, who drones on about his self-centered feelings in one song after another that sounds exactly the same.
Neither type of player is desirable. But, given the choice, I will say that the well-practiced guy can do what the other guy does, if the situation calls for it; whereas the other guy, just can't do much at all, except masturbate. No matter what the situation calls for, he will make it all sound the same, because that's all he can do. Now if he has brilliant lyrics, he might be a Bob Dylan. Whereas the other guy just might someday be an Yngwie Malmsteen. It takes all types. The point is to be well-centered, and have a big toolbox. |
Music is very important to most cultures, so go have a hamburger.
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I will have a lumburger.
I typically prefer the early days of Zep, as well as just about anybody else. Although Physical Graffiti is one of my desert album albums. |
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Hey look, it's lumbergjim.
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When you talk about music, it's important to scratch your arse because someone could be looking.
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(I know what can distract both of you! give you both a new target!)
So whadd'y'all think of Post-Rock? |
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another great non-sequitur
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So whadd'y'all think of Post-Rock? |
I've never fucking heard of it.
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But seriously, give us an example of what "post-rock" is since most labels are completely worthless. |
Post Punk is better?
Oh wait, isn't post rock and post punk the same damned thing as "rock" and "punk"? Except it's cool enough to listen to because it has a new snazzy genre title attached that is completely unneccessary? Post-rock is a music genre characterized by the use of musical instruments commonly associated with rock music, but utilizing rhythms, harmonies, melodies, timbre, and chord progressions that are not found in rock tradition. Simply put, it is the use of 'rock instrumentation' for non-rock purposes. Practitioners of the genre's style typically produce instrumental music.[1][2][3] As with many musical genres, the term is arguably inadequate as a concise descriptor: for example, Don Caballero and Mogwai were among the more prominent bands of the 1990s described as post rock, but the two bands' music has very little in common besides the fact that they are both largely instrumental. As such, the term has been the subject of backlash from listeners and artists alike.[4] Although firmly rooted in the indie scene of the 1980s and '90s, post-rock's style bears little resemblance musically to that of indie rock.[3][2] IT's Rock mmmmkay? Non-traditional rock is still rock. K kiddies? There is no post about it.... |
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