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Cloud 06-21-2008 07:01 AM

Charley Horse
 
worst.one.evah!

had to get up out of bed. and did you realize--no one knows the cause . . . OR the cure!

fuggit. :thepain:

DanaC 06-21-2008 08:11 AM

What's a charley horse?

Undertoad 06-21-2008 08:42 AM

It's a painful upper leg muscle cramp. I wake up with lower leg muscle cramps sometimes. Most painful thing ever.

Cloud 06-21-2008 10:22 AM

usually calf muscle, actually. Sometimes I get twinges--but THIS was more than a twinge.

Suggestions for prevention are: hydration, stretching, and taking your vitamins.

phooey!

Undertoad 06-21-2008 11:56 AM

Oh. Yeah that's what I sometimes get. Horrible.

HungLikeJesus 06-21-2008 12:06 PM

Try pulling back on your toes (with your hand). That sometimes helps.

Go try it right now.

P.S. Isn't Charley Horse a cousin of Crazy Horse?

jinx 06-21-2008 12:25 PM

Eat more bananas.

dar512 06-21-2008 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinx (Post 464190)
Eat more bananas.

I've heard that too, Jinx. There's speculation that being low in potassium has something to do with it.

Flint 06-21-2008 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 464157)
...
and did you realize--no one knows the cause . . . OR the cure!
...

I know that I wake up with excrutiatingly painful calf cramps in my left leg, after I've played gigs where I was really stomping on the hi-hat pedal.

I wake up with my calf muscle locked into fully-flexed position. I have to manually work my foot back and forth to loosen it up. Hurts really bad.

On those nights, I probably drank a lot of free beer; so I may be dehydrayted, too.

zippyt 06-21-2008 03:36 PM

http://www.soccerdivas.com/stretching.htm

Clodfobble 06-21-2008 04:35 PM

They are very common when you're pregnant. There are lots of different causes for different people (like jinx said, a potassium deficiency can cause it too,) but the cause during pregnancy is almost always a calcium deficiency. Taking a calcium supplement right before bed completely cured it for me. (And on nights when I forgot to take it, I woke up with vicious calf cramps, without fail.) Might be worth a try, since women need all the calcium they can get anyway.

Cloud 06-21-2008 06:51 PM

that's the first thing I did (when I was able to walk); drink a gulp of my "Bone Health" Emergen-C.

Will try.

go away, horsey!

busterb 06-21-2008 10:34 PM

Quote:

There's speculation that being low in potassium has something to do with it.
On those nights, I probably drank a lot of free beer; so I may be dehydrayted, too.
The alcohol flushes the potassium from your system. Per my lady DR. at VA.
Yes I have craps also. The potassium stops mine. Some folks use to take quinine, before they stopped selling OTC.

Flint 06-21-2008 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by busterb (Post 464254)
The alcohol flushes the potassium from your system. Per my lady DR. at VA.
Yes I have craps also. The potassium stops mine. Some folks use to take quinine, before they stopped selling OTC.

Intersting about the alcohol/potassium. Thanks.

Re: Quinine, what about tonic water? Is there not enough of it in there?

Cloud 06-21-2008 11:03 PM

buster -- you have craps? I think that's another malady altogether . . .

busterb 06-22-2008 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 464264)
buster -- you have craps? I think that's another malady altogether . . .

:blush: Humm. Spell check doesn't catch crap like that.:bolt:

HungLikeJesus 06-22-2008 10:52 AM

You mean the p should have been a b?

Cloud 06-22-2008 11:24 AM

no horseys last night. Stretched and drank a calcium emergenc-c before bed. yay!

Perry Winkle 06-22-2008 05:58 PM

I got in the habit of giving myself charlie horses (my calves and quadriceps) every night before I went to bed, from the time I was about 9 until I was about 11. I did this until the muscles were exhausted and wouldn't charlie-horse anymore.

My calves got big and well-defined doing this. And, well, charlie horses don't bug me one bit when one comes involuntarily. I think I've developed a high level of cramp-control.

I feel very weird admitting this to anyone.

HungLikeJesus 06-22-2008 06:01 PM

How did you give yourself charley horses?

lumberjim 06-22-2008 07:32 PM

if you get a calf cramp, jump out of bed and stand on that leg. no shit. it's the only thing that makes them go away immediately.

Cloud 06-22-2008 07:45 PM

a couple of the sites also mention pinching the space between your upper lip and nose. Think I could do that whilst simultaneously standing on one foot after waking from a deep sleep?

Perry Winkle 06-23-2008 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 464319)
How did you give yourself charley horses?

Flex the muscle until it cramps, and continue flexing until the cramp becomes involuntary.

sweetwater 06-30-2008 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 464327)
a couple of the sites also mention pinching the space between your upper lip and nose. Think I could do that whilst simultaneously standing on one foot after waking from a deep sleep?

So you can control a charley horse by twitching yourself? :)

Cloud 06-30-2008 11:13 PM

how . . . apt.

Sundae 07-01-2008 11:30 AM

I get cramps via dehydration - at least I assume that's what it is, I get them in the early hours of the morning after I've seriously tied one on.

An ex of mine used to get them all the time, and he had big muscles, so that's a lot of hurt. The first time I had one in his company (during sex OF COURSE!) he was amazed that I didn't know how to relieve a cramp.

Work the muscle naturally.

So a foot cramp, flex the foot, a calf cramp, flex the calf etc. I was gutted that no-one had suggested it before. Of course it was kinda cute to have someone else manipulating my calf to show me what he meant ;)

I get them less now because at the first hint I just gently start flexing.


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