Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up
 

July 24, 2008 12:01am
Article from: The Daily Telegraph

So, Are they out there? been here? or is this guy just another nut?

I think it's likely that he's a nut.

But who knows?

When explorers in the past traveled around the world and came across new people less advanced than they were, did they hide themselves and try to do it in a sneaky way? Or did they make no attempt to hide themselves and in fact try to make contact, trade, get information, etc.?

Seems like if advanced life forms visited the Earth, they would be obvious about it. Like us lobbing rovers at Mars.

People get nuttier the older they get. My dad, who I'm really pretty sure used to be a completely rational human being, has recently mentioned several times his genuine fear that computers will soon become sentient. He's not panicking yet, mind you, he's just sure it's coming. He keeps talking about HAL and Skynet.

A. I believe that there is probably intelligent life out there somewhere. But I don't think there's a shred of credible evidence that they've ever visited us, and I find it impossible to conceive that they have and that it's been covered up.

B. This is ironic in a way, because a large number of the people who believe this stuff also believe that Dr. Mitchell and his colleagues' trips to the moon were faked.

Well, Ray Kurzweil thinks the same thing. (Of course, some people think he's nutty too.)

Earth has never seen inteligent life. ;)

Sure it has. I'm here, therefore I am. QED.

Oh really? And how would you explain the anal probe???:eyebrow:


Would you admit to being probed? If no, would you like to go camping?:p

Naysayers like you will probably accuse true believers of self-probing.:eek:

Sheldon.

He's very intelligent life, but not from another planet... oh wait, New Jersey... nevermind. :o

It's either senility, or a clever attempt on the part of the aliens to keep us from believing in their existence by having people who should know about this kind of stuff say absurd things.

Be back later, I have to go get some replacement tinfoil. Maybe the heavy duty kind will be better ...

I thought this was going to be another thread about Michael Jackson.

No, it's about intelligent lifeforms.

There are still uncontacted tribes out in the Amazon, that 'Civiliaztion' has now chosen to not interfere with. Probably because they don't have anything we want :rolleyes:.

This thread is making me nervous. I didn't know you earthlin... people had an inkling of our, I mean their, I mean not their activities on this rock. Guess we'll have to stop mutilating cattle and accidentally leaving those crystal skulls behind now.

PS: I have never probed anyone, ever

Except if they'd mastered the technological challenge of interstellar travel they'd probably be a damn sight slicker about it than us, who haven't made it out of our own cradle yet....and they really wouldn't have to monitor what's spun about on that satellite network out there for very long to recognise a belligerent species. Walk right up and say hi? I bloody wouldn't.

I find it unlikely that a non-belligerent species could survive long enough to master space travel.

It's true, I saw it on South Park.

If the probe don't fit, you must acquit!

How disappointing. Nineteen posts and not a single 'Uranus' joke.

"Dude! You've got a 90' satellite dish sticking out of your ass and you're farting fire!"

I agree with Clobfobble. I really wonder if lifeforms could reach an intelligence level much higher than humans are now. It takes millions of years for this type of intelligence to evolve and frankly, I have my doubts on how much longer humans will last (I am talking about hundreds of thousands of years, not decades).

Also, if a species did reach a much higher intelligence level than us, I am pretty sure that their technology would be superior to ours in the way that a ICBM compares to a stone axe. A million year head start is a damn big one. Even if humans did master space travel in the next couple thousand years, we would have technology that would make our current weapons look like toys from the bronze age.

So my theory is that if intelligent life does exist, they either killed themselves off (or blew themselves back to the stone age) or are not much smarter than us but have technology far superior to us.

Or maybe I am just being *shutters* homocentric.

We're too stupid to talk to. What would they get out of coming too close?

Oh hai. It's another idiot that can't even communicate with their mind yet.

I bet it would be like trying to talk to a cockroach. Really, what good does that do? What if they tried that already?

Not to mention, an astronaut would have to be briefed on prior activities so they don't freak out if something happens or they see something while in space.

You know this is just like the cellar. An expert admits to an experience, and the best that can be done is say he is crazy. You'll have to do better.

Wait, what? That's not what I was saying. I was just countering Dana's theory that a kinder, gentler alien race would avoid us because we were belligerent--I think natural selection means you have to be belligerent to survive at all as an intelligent species. If aliens did exist, I think they'd be as belligerent as we are.

Ah, my bad. I wrote my response and later saw your's and thought it was close to mine so I added the agree part.

here's one!

is that the cat that was tearing up your trash a few years ago?

Why do we assume that intelligence is the normal progression for evolving species? Human intelligence so vastly exceeds the problem-solving requirements of survival that it seems more accidental than probable.

Remember, evolution doesn't select for flourishing, just for survival. In almost every category, from language to reason to art, human intellectual capacity far, far exceeds anything that could be justified on the basis of survival.

Why assume that other life-forms had the same happy accident in their evolutionary progression?

I don't think slime-slugs are going to be off exploring other planets.

So you're an alien AND a probee, eh? Are all aliens probees?

But...the more useful the evolutionary adaptation, the more likely a given organism is to eventually thrive and dominate its environmental niche. Once an organism is at the top of a food chain, perhaps more cranial resources are freed up to develop into sentience and rational thought. Perhaps intelligence isn't *necessary*, but it certainly could be a byproduct.

I want to know why anything exists at all.

I'm pretty sure smooth could give you a very detailed answer for that. :)

Looks like a dog walking up right on it's hind legs. They may be smarter than we give them credit for.:D

(that pic makes me Lmao :lol2:)