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richlevy 08-24-2008 06:19 PM

Something to think about the next time you order sushi
 
From here

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Up to a quarter of fish in stores and restaurants in New York City was mislabelled as a more expensive variety, according to samples collected by two US teenagers and tested with genetic "barcoding" methods.
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In all cases, the fish was labelled as a more costly type, apparently ruling out simple chance. It was the first known student use of DNA barcoding technology in a public market.
So you might as well order the cheaper variety to begin with, because there's a %25 chance that that is what you are getting anyway.

Maui Nick 08-24-2008 10:22 PM

We've had problems with that here in Florida, too --- restaurants selling grouper entrees that turn out to be something other than grouper. In one case, the restaurant chain resorted to calling it "grouper's teammate" or something like that.

ZenGum 08-24-2008 10:40 PM

"grouper's teammate" ... why not just call it a groupie?

JuancoRocks 08-25-2008 01:11 AM

Bait.......

Aliantha 08-25-2008 01:15 AM

We have similar issues here with seafood, despite legislation in place which requires food to be labled correctly.

It's a big issue, and if you don't think you're getting what you've paid for, you need to speak up about it. It's a case of buyer beware as always. Know what your product should look, feel and taste like, and if you haven't got it on your plate, make a complaint to your governing body.

ZenGum 08-25-2008 02:55 AM

I was going to make a "bait and switch" joke... but the points to Jaunco. [doffs cap].

sweetwater 08-26-2008 05:27 AM

I'm going to Japan in a couple of weeks. I'll point to something on the menu and trust that whatever-I-get is whatever-it-was. Some of the best sushi I have ever had before was in NYC restaurants. At least, I think it was sushi.

xoxoxoBruce 08-26-2008 07:24 AM

Raw fish? :headshake
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Swallow the roundworm, Anisakis simplex, however, and the consequence, a disease called anisakiasis, will make your stomach churn--both literally and figuratively. If you're "lucky," the worm will cause a tickle in your throat as it is swallowed, prompting you to cough or vomit it up. If not, it can bore into your stomach or gut lining, causing severe abdominal inflammation and pain that mimics appendicitis or an ulcer, often within an hour of eating. The only way to get the worm out at this stage is through removal by endoscope or surgery. In addition, Anisakis has been documented as provoking severe allergic reactions in some people.

sweetwater 08-26-2008 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 478222)
Raw fish? :headshake

I saw an episode of House where the patient had a tapeworm. It was horrible - I had to look away and I'm pretty tough. But sushi tastes so good! Ah well. I have often said that the best diet tool is a microscope at the kitchen table...

Shawnee123 08-26-2008 04:00 PM

I want a tapeworm. Can I order one online?

Trilby 08-26-2008 04:08 PM

Raw fish...YUCK! Disgusting! I guess that makes me pretty provincial, but, hey, I never have to worry about Anisakis, either.

I've become a veggie since chemo. Meat doesn't taste right anymore and I've no appetite for it. Weird, huh? But raw meat/fish----? Steak Tartare, sushi...I'd rather lick rock moss.

ZenGum 08-26-2008 08:35 PM

Raw fish is delicious if it is VERY fresh. Even refreigerated, it goes dodgy within a few hours.

Sweetwater, where are you going in Japan? (apart from Kyoto and Tokyo, of course).

The random pointing technique might get you a few surprises - some specials include "sperm-filled reproductive gland of the male squid" and having a live octopus brought to your table, its tentacles chopped off, and one dropped on your plate ... still twitching and suckering while you eat it.
Good luck!

Trilby 08-26-2008 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 478441)
...and having a live octopus brought to your table, its tentacles chopped off, and one dropped on your plate ... still twitching and suckering while you eat it.
Good luck!

Why not just swallow a few live gold fish and impress your roommates? I still say YICK.

jinx 08-26-2008 09:23 PM

All you freak sushi haters? I'll eat your share. Just the fish though, nothing weird, no genitals or fluids thanks.

smoothmoniker 08-27-2008 05:42 PM

Sushi is not "fresh." If you are eating it in the United States, it has been in deep-freeze for several days, at least. It's illegal to sell it fresh.

classicman 08-28-2008 11:57 AM

The stuff we catch and eat is - but you are right sm, if you buy it it is definitely "days" or more old.

sweetwater 08-28-2008 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 478441)
Sweetwater, where are you going in Japan? (apart from Kyoto and Tokyo, of course).

The random pointing technique might get you a few surprises - some specials include "sperm-filled reproductive gland of the male squid" and having a live octopus brought to your table, its tentacles chopped off, and one dropped on your plate ... still twitching and suckering while you eat it.
Good luck!

Yes, Kyoto and Tokyo, but as it's a business trip for Mr. S and he'll be busy for 4 days, I'm on my own and will just make plans when I get there. Grab my passport and purse and run without a plan. Did you have some suggestions?
We have tickets for kabuki and a world championship sumo wrestling match for 2 evenings and sushi on another with some locals. I'm beginning to think "tattoo" because of a show I saw recently, too. Open to ideas - except for squirming food. :eek:

ZenGum 08-29-2008 01:03 AM

Sweetwater,
you've got the main things. Make sure you visit some onsens (hot springs). Heaven. They are usually quite cheap, and often have gorgeous outdoor baths where you can relax in a hot soaking tub and enjoy the view. And visiting a few is a way to get yourself off to some out-of-the-way villages etc as they are often natural springs up in the mountains. Just remember to wash and rinse before you get in the tub.

wafflepirate 08-31-2008 11:51 PM

LOL thats a frozen fish I'd love to slap my pretentious sushi-loving classmate with XD

Sundae 09-01-2008 05:51 AM

I'll have whatever's left of Jinx's share when the sushi haters leave.
Damn - this makes me want to head to our local Yo Sushi-alike. NO! I can't afford to eat out now and you are not going to tempt me (whimper).

Anyway I have some Chinese buns in the freezer. Okay, not sushi or sashami, but I will eat them tonight and pat my purse which will not be one penny lighter and say nom nom nom.

smoothmoniker 09-01-2008 12:57 PM

My wife and I found a favorite little sushi joint right around the corner, ate there for about 6 months, loved it. Cheap, good, fresh, not too great on the service but I can live with that.

Then, one day, we went in and overnight it was like the place had been hit with the crappy stick. The food was AAAAAAWWWWWUL. We stopped going there. A week later, the health code inspector gave the place a "C".

In LA County, you get ranked from A-F, and you have to display the rating so that it's visible to customers at the front entrance of the restaurant. You can also go online to the county health website, and see why the joint got its rating. This sushi place was docked for not keeping their glass fish display cold, for not properly cleaning their food prep area, and for serving "perished" food ... yikes!

I was amazed to see that people still went there at all.

classicman 09-02-2008 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by smoothmoniker (Post 479931)
This sushi place was docked for ~snip~ and for serving "perished" food ... yikes!

Most food eaten is dead - isn't it?

smoothmoniker 09-03-2008 02:22 AM

perished = beyond expiration, moldy, rotting, stale, etc.

Griff 09-03-2008 07:13 AM

joined the choir invisible


classicman 09-03-2008 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by smoothmoniker (Post 480362)
perished = beyond expiration, moldy, rotting, stale, etc.

Just another unfunny by me - /Gilda/nevermiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnd/Radnor/

sweetwater 09-03-2008 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 479852)
I'll have whatever's left of Jinx's share when the sushi haters leave.
Damn - this makes me want to head to our local Yo Sushi-alike. NO! I can't afford to eat out now and you are not going to tempt me (whimper).

Near my sister is a small restaurant that sells sushi half-price near the end of the day. I dunno... probably good but I would only semi-enjoy it while eating it, then spend the next couple of hours just... waiting... to see if anything.... happened.

smoothmoniker 09-03-2008 09:56 AM

Think of it as a reverse sushi lottery! Will I get sick and die? Possibly!

ZenGum 09-03-2008 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetwater (Post 480406)
Near my sister is a small restaurant that sells sushi half-price near the end of the day. I dunno... probably good but I would only semi-enjoy it while eating it, then spend the next couple of hours just... waiting... to see if anything.... happened.


Do. Not. Buy.



You probably won't get sick - I doubt they'd take that much of a risk, but it will taste like crap. (metaphorical crap, that is, really it will taste like stale sushi. This sucks.)

jinx 09-03-2008 08:39 PM

Unless it's not kept refrigerated (highly unlikely), I don't see what the big deal is. All the other sushi places in the area are just wrapping their stuff up and serving it tomorrow...

DanaC 09-03-2008 08:44 PM

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I'll have whatever's left of Jinx's share when the sushi haters leave.
Damn - this makes me want to head to our local Yo Sushi-alike. NO! I can't afford to eat out now and you are not going to tempt me (whimper).
Sundae, at some point, when I have my house in order and you can have your residency issues sorted out, you must come up to Yorkshire for a visit. When you do, there's a great little sushi house in Leeds. Si Sushi: they do the best ramen noodles I've ever tasted and their Tofu pouches are to die for. In fact I like pretty much everything they do. I'm not going to attempt to recall the names of the various sushi dishes I like.


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