Questions about the date:
 

This is what I'm asking about.

I asked her on the date, and I'm taking her out. Paying all that, unless she expresses a wish to go Dutch. The thing is, she's a vegan. (For those who don't know: Eats no animals products at all, ex: milk, eggs.) So should I let her choose a place she's eaten at and will know the menu, or should I try to find a resturuant I think will work? Anything will work for me, and I could use a few more veggies in my diet anyways.
Second thing: We have previously discussed our diets and she knows I'm a meat eater. I'm type O blood, kinda is a necessity for me. On the date though should I give in to my carnivorous appetite, or stick to the veggies like prey food? She doesn't seem to be offended by meat, she just personally chooses not to eat it.
Last thing, for now: Pants or a casual dress?

Firstly, I'd say begin as you mean to go on. If you don't intend to go vegan, even if this date turns into a relationship, then just have whatever you think looks good on the menu.

Secondly, if you know a good restaraunt you want to take her to, just give them a call and ask if they have a vegan menu or at least options. Most restaraunts do cater for weird food choices and/or allergies these days. Well over here they do anyway.

nb. I say weird because I really think vegans are weird. I mean seriously, how can anyone not like a good piece of meat every now and then? :)

I dated a vegan for a bit, she was cool about me sticking to my meat and potatoes diet when we went out somewhere. Def. not a bad idea to call ahead and ask what vegan dishes the place offers, and make sure they are differentiating between vegan and vegetarian. One place that worked great was a Mediterranean/Middle Eastern place that served all kinds of vegan, vege, and regular dishes. As a suggestion, I would avoid getting a dripping red steak and do something with diced chicken in it. Or try an Oriental place and give tofu a whirl in a stir fry dish with lo mein and broccoli, it's actually pretty good.

Doing the research to find a restaurant that caters to vegans would be a big plus on the scorecard and help to keep her relaxed and comfortable. If you cant find one then let her choose the place.

I dont think it matters much what you choose to eat, but if you go to a specialty restaurant (For vegans ? Is there such a thing?) it would be nice to be like 'when in Rome'.

Casual dress!

I'd think of a few good places I like and call ahead to check their menus, and then give her the option to choose one or the other.

For what you decide to order, I'd probably go with a chicken or fish dish, depending on what you like.

http://dallas.citysearch.com/profile...ie_garden.html

This one is supposed to be vegan and should work...any thoughts?

I've been looking up restaurant menus online, I could call around too I guess, but the website usually have enough info.

Hmm....well it depends on how you want to come off.

If you don't know much about veganism and vegan culture and would like to learn from her, that means admitting to her that you know shit ATM, I would confess my ignorance and ask her to pick a good place and then ask a lot of questions about veganism there. This will create good conversation, even if you are just nodding your head and asking questions, and will allow her to share something she loves and has knowledge of to you. This is assuming she is proud of her veganism. If she isn't, then it might annoy her to really hound the subject so test the waters. I personally would do this.

If you want to impress her on your knowledge of veganism, heavily research everything you can about veganism, look at reviews, and hope you pick a good restaurant. This is a bit fake IMO, and I wouldn't do this unless you are either trying to play a dominance role or actually know a lot about veganism. This tends to backfire because if she finds out you really don't know much about veganism and pretending you do just to impress her, don't expect it to end well.


Also, if you are not a vegan and have no interest in vegan food I would recommend going to the restaurant with a little bit in your stomach so if you really don't like what you order, make sure you at least order something though, you are not really hungry for the rest of the night and make her watch you eat later.

Good questions include:

1) Can you consume human breast milk?
1a)What if it's in a play scenario?

2) Have you hit the point where your liver has no more B12 saved up?
2a) How long have you been at this?
2b) Oh so there's still time then.

3) Do you shit like 7 times a day?
3a) Do you get cramps all the time?

4) Does it make your, you know, "private area" smell different?
4a) Better or worse?
4b) How do you know?

5) If you're in a room with half vegans, half regular eaters, can you identify the vegans? Is it because they're all peaked and sickly-looking?

6) Have you gotten a set of baseline tests to figure out what the true impact to your health is?

7) Is it vegan to eat me if I decide that it's ok to cut off my limbs and cook them?
7a) If so, how do you know a beast doesn't *want* to give its life in order to sustain higher life? That would be a very moral position for a cow to take.

8) Do you get regular periods?

I'd let her pick the restaurant & not eat meat in front of her. Show her you are sensitive to her feelings/choices.

UT, that was wrong, so wrong. But, I laughed my ass off

Does this mean she has a vegina?

Good advice, pierce. I know what being a vegan is, but I don't know why she is. She is the expert, she even gives cooking lessons! I'm starting to feel a bit out of my element :). I think I would feel a bit odd eating meat in front of her, but we have already discussed this, and she's not offended by meat, just doesn't eat it.
UT, I'll keep those questions in mind when I meet a die-hard moral vegan. She's pretty laid-back so I don't think those questions would have much impact.
I don't know Sheldon, but if I get the chance to find out, I'll let you know.

The date has been postponed, a new day has not been settled on. Hopefully next weekend.

HIJACK:

WTF does type O blood have to do with eating meat?? You don't seriously think blood type has anything to do with dietary needs do you?

It does matter to vampires. :lol:

Something I've heard somewhere...I think it had to do w/ some book about eating for your blood type. I'm really too lazy to look it up right now. All I really know is that I crave meat like a zombie craves brains.

ah , if you read it somewhere, it must be true :lol:

Eh, I guess it could not be true, but it could be as well. Its not like the idea that my blood type might make more partial to meat is really gonna affect me. I'm not changing my diet to eat more meat, still trying to increase my veggie intake.

+1........:D

It is probably from "eat right for your type" interesting read. some of it rang true for me anecdotally. A lot of people think he's full of BS. But he says O type descend from hunter gatherers and is the oldest blood type on the planet. Other blood types evolved later in human history along with the advent of agriculture and other gastronomic milestones. Interesting. Rigorously scientific? Probably not, but then who knows anything about human nutrition?

Have you gone out yet? How did it go?

Sorry Sarge, not yet.

I think that needs to be the new quiz that LJ administers to noobs.

My Mum bought that book. I told her off. I said in future she had to ask me to vet a diet (no pun intended) before she spent money on it.

Poor Mum - believes in fad diets and has a patronising daughter.

MTP do let us know when you have some news. The place you suggested looks really good, but of course I can't speak from first hand knowledge!

:lol:

Might, very big might, be able to on Sun, she's tryin to get the day off.

SG-I don't really know if its a fad diet or what. But I am always interested in nutritional info (no matter how unreliable) and everyone's body works differently and processes foods a bit differently. So to me it makes sense that something like your blood could affect your dietary needs. After all the food you eat does get absorbed into the body/blood. I've even seen literature (again I can't remember where) that talks about how dif. body types need to cut out dif. foods for the best results. For me I gain weight first in my tummy area so the suggestion was to lower my carb intake, I did and the results were faster than just switching to low calorie. Of course I work at a bread store, so that lasted maybe 4 wks.

Edit: Everything in moderation is my main motto. Especially diets.

Suggest you take a biology course, just for shits and grins if nothing else. Bodies work alarminlgy similarly, they are just built differently.

Then at least you'll have a filter for bollox diets.

Took Biology and the follow up Biology AP course. Had the highest grade the whole year. The don't all work the same, that's why some people have chemical imbalances, poor immune systems, vitamin deficiencies ect ect. Its not all understood. I have a very good filter for bollox diets, like I said everything in moderation. I'll never go on the Atkins diet. My dieting usually consists of me trying to cut down my enormous sugar intake and add in more vegetables. Those are the two areas I fail miserably in responsible eating.

Didn't you tell us you slept through that course?

But you might add in a bit of philosophy. "They don't all work the same" is very different from "They all work differently". I think that's where Monster is coming from.

"Everything in moderation." So, does that include moderation itself? Does being moderately moderate oblige you to - just occasionally - go to excess?
I doubt it stands up to thorough scrutiny, but it's a handy excuse to get rat-arsed drunk three times a year. After the fourth drink it makes perfect sense.

Yes I did, but whereas everyone else in my class struggled to pass my AP course (means college level for HS btw) I had no problem getting an A. I'm not bragging, she is the one who brought it up.

Essential the same, but if it helps thats what I meant. I guess we could go with "They all work slightly different. I know they're set up to work the same (unless you have some issue) and they go through the same process, produce the same types of chemicals/hormones depending on gender. The differences occur in amounts. Katie's body had a higher metabolism so she burned through more calories than I did. So whereas she hardly paid attention to her diet and I usually ate decently, and was more physically active, I still weighed 20lbs more than her, despite being about the same height. Things like that.

:rotflol:
Next time I need an excuse for my late night drunkenness I'm calling you. I do occasionally go to excess, but I am human after all.

I also accept that different bodies work differently. My immediate reaction against it was there are more differences that can be explained by a handful of blood types :)

Not connected to the above, purely anecdotal - before carbs became teh debbil, I started on the first of many diets. What I found was that my body survives very well on carbs. It loves them. It says nom nom nom and loses weight. I lost nearly 40lb in 10 weeks on a carb-high diet - cornflakes, bagels, potatoes, fruit and pasta featured highly. It's been my diet model ever since and it works well for me when I stick to it. My head is the thing that needs sorting, not my body - if I had a healthy attitude towards food I'd never have to diet again, I'd just have to eat and enjoy it. Sigh.

Seeing the nasty cheese fries in the WTF thread last night made me crave chips & cheese (our version). Thinking about vegan food in this thread is making me crave a lentil heavy vegetable stew! I must hang out here more often. And no, I don't pronounce that orphan.

Sundae, when you start a diet do you usually also start more physical exercise, such as walking? Carbs are great for you if you're using them.

In college a friend went to Italy for the summer, to learn Italian. She left a bit chunky and came back skinny-minny. She said she ate the heck out of some pasta, but walking all the hills in town she burned them right up and lost weight, easily.

I need the "I'm going to Italy" diet! Plus, all the sex I'll have with sexy Italian men will add up, too. :)

I used to :heartpump carby carbs, the ones that are supposed to be bad for you, but ever since I did the Zone diet they have lost their attraction. Eating too many high glycemic carbs (and especially without the balance of something protein-ish) makes me feel icky, now.

apparently I need to use more ;) and :lol: smileys in my posts

...or STFU

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