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Undertoad 09-26-2008 12:04 PM

I am voting for X. But if Y wins the election...
 
I am offering this pledge, with the hope that other Americans pledge with me, if you have made a choice, substituting where necessary:

I am voting for Obama. But if McCain wins the election, I will remain open-minded, optimistic, and will wait patiently to see what comes of his leadership of the country.

Now you post it. With feeling.

Flint 09-26-2008 12:06 PM

I am voting for Z; but when X or Y wins, I'll just have to see how things turn out.

Pico and ME 09-26-2008 12:07 PM

If McCain wins I will be accepting, but in a sadly fatalistic way.

This country does need a change. I dont know if Obama actually has the vision for it or not, but I dont trust in McCains vision because it is being hijacked by the current one.

glatt 09-26-2008 12:09 PM

I like the idea of this thread.

I am voting for Obama. But if McCain wins the election, I will remain open-minded, will try to be optimistic, and will wait patiently to see what comes of his leadership of the country.

Pico and ME 09-26-2008 12:11 PM

Oops, I didnt follow the rubric.

Ibby 09-26-2008 12:14 PM

If I could vote, I would vote for Obama. But if McCain wins, I will really, really try not to lose ALL faith I have in America.

Shawnee123 09-26-2008 12:48 PM

As Americans, I think we always have hope that the guy won't screw it up, even if our guy doesn't win the election (well, except G-dub's second term, that was just devastating.)

I'd like to say it along with you all, but how long do we have to remain optimistic before we get to say I told you so? I need limits on this contract, otherwise it's unenforceable. ;)

classicman 09-26-2008 12:54 PM

With feeling/ I am voting for Obama. But if McCain wins the election, I will remain open-minded, optimistic, and will wait patiently to see what comes of his leadership of the country. /With feeling

Shawnee123 09-26-2008 12:56 PM

Good boy, now drink this Kool-aid!

xoxoxoBruce 09-26-2008 01:03 PM

If McCain wins, I'm moving to England and rub noses with Sundae Girl. ;)

classicman 09-26-2008 01:04 PM

I've basically been saying that for awhile - things could still change - I'll watch the bogus debates and that which happens in the coming month to see...

footfootfoot 09-26-2008 01:19 PM

If Obama wins and manages to finish his term, then I will eat my hat. However if McCain wins whether or not he finishes his term. I will not eat any hats but will remain open minded about those who do eat their hats.

forgot to mention that I will vote for my fellow Irishman, Mr. O'Bama

Shawnee123 09-26-2008 01:52 PM

Wait a sec: is eatin' hats in this contract too? Way too much pork in this contract...

Pie 09-26-2008 01:56 PM

I am voting for Obama; but if McCain wins, I will be praying fervently for his continued life and health. Even as an avowed atheist, I will be praying. Anything to avoid President Palin. :shudder:

HungLikeJesus 09-26-2008 02:20 PM

I am voting for Obama. But if McCain wins the election, I will remain open-minded, will try to be optimistic, and will wait patiently to see what comes of his leadership of the country.

I am not 100% for or against either candidate. I think they both have good and bad points, so whoever wins I will have something positive to focus on.

The republicans are less likely to try to take my guns.
The democrats are less likely to give my money to their churches.
And so on.

Clodfobble 09-26-2008 07:05 PM

[should-be-shameful admission but I don't really care]I expect I'm not going to vote, because there ain't no way in hell Texas is ever going to be a blue state, and I don't have the energy to drag a hyperactive toddler to a polling location for some paltry act of symbolism. [/shameful]

But if McCain wins... I'll be a little disappointed, but I'm not going to be too terribly worried about it in the long run.

jinx 09-26-2008 09:02 PM

I really can't get behind either one of these knuckleheads, so... barring any significant developments...

I am voting for Heads. But if Tails wins the election, I will remain open-minded, optimistic, and will wait patiently to see what comes of his leadership of the country. I will also continue to write to and email the scum sucking mother fucking whores who represent me in Washington, and keep them apprised of my lack of support for most if not all of the great ideas these jackasses constantly come up with.

monster 09-26-2008 09:46 PM

I will not be voting for anyone because I'm not allowed. If McCain gets elected my opinion of all y'all will be put to the test and if he dies and we get president palin, I may well then take citizenship, take up my right to arms and start shooting. If Obama gets elected, I will be cautiously optimistic, but i will also add him to my 2009 celebrity death pool list

Griff 09-26-2008 09:56 PM

Based on the proposed Washington subsidy for stupidity, criminality, and incompetence, I'm no longer open-minded or optimistic. The GOP should be punished and if they are not, I'll be disappointed.

regular.joe 09-26-2008 10:25 PM

I'm thinking of selling my vote on ebay, starting bid: $.01.

ZenGum 09-26-2008 10:26 PM

I would prefer X. If Y gets in, I am moving to Z. Except that I am already in W, and Z is closer to V, so I'll stay here. Got that?

Griff 09-26-2008 10:30 PM

cool I could have two useless votes.

xoxoxoBruce 09-26-2008 11:28 PM

If Obama wins, I'm moving to England and rub noses with Sundae Girl. ;)

Yznhymr 09-27-2008 12:15 AM

I don't care who wins...rubbing noses is fun. And I betcha rubbing noses with Sundae Girl is much funner.

ZenGum 09-27-2008 08:19 AM

You reckon it would stop with noses though?

regular.joe 09-27-2008 03:48 PM

"Noses"....is that what they are calling those in England these days????

richlevy 09-28-2008 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinx (Post 487334)
I really can't get behind either one of these knuckleheads, so... barring any significant developments...

I am voting for Heads. But if Tails wins the election, I will remain open-minded, optimistic, and will wait patiently to see what comes of his leadership of the country. I will also continue to write to and email the scum sucking mother fucking whores who represent me in Washington, and keep them apprised of my lack of support for most if not all of the great ideas these jackasses constantly come up with.

What she said.

I do, however support one over the other. I am aware of my candidates flaws, and accept the fact that no other human being will agree with me %100. Like most of the Cellar, I did not vote for the current occupant of the White House and have spent 8 years saying "Don't look at me, I didn't vote for that idiot". The prospect that my candidate might win and that I will finally take partial ownership of the resulting consequences is both exhilarating and frightening.

Griff 09-28-2008 11:10 AM

Both candidates appear to be more patriotic than the Bushites. In that way we'll get some improvement right out of the box. I don't think either has the stomach for what our economy needs, so we'll be rewarding malfeasance either way. At least, the reward will be better monitored than Bushes bail out the oligarchs plan. He really did recognize a brother in Putin, didn't he?

skysidhe 09-28-2008 12:33 PM

If Obama wins and he taxes everyone to pay for the bailout, meets with the Iranian President to nuke Israel,pulls out of Iraq too fast, or generally just does nothing except to be 'present' and is just another puppet leader I am moving to central Canada.

If McCain wins and allows China or the middle east emirates to subsidize the bailout,gets into a battle with Russia or lets the nuclear power plant run off into our water supply or dies of old age I am moving to North- North eastern Canada and live in an igloo.


I made up false fears for McCain. Just to be fair.;)

Radar 09-29-2008 12:10 AM

I'm voting for Obama, but if McCain wins the election, I will seek employment and housing in another country because it will be the downfall of America. I will patiently seek opportunities that will allow me to bring my family with me so I don't have to see America crumble into economic failure due to perpetual war, and increased terrorism around the world due to our actions, and attacks against American civil rights from a government that routinely violates our Constitution and borrows unlimited amounts of money in our name.

McCain will surely die of old age during his time in office and put nuclear weapons into the hands of a book banning religious nutjob who can't pronounce the word "nuclear" and who believes people and dinosaurs lived together.

warch 09-29-2008 01:59 AM

I am voting Obama. But if McCain wins I will hope with enthusiasm that he will be competent and if he is not competent, I hope he will be accountable and if he is not accountable, I hope he is held so. I, of course, hope all the same for Obama. Audacity of hope and all that.

Sundae 09-29-2008 08:27 AM

I'm just sitting back and waiting, and looking after my nose.

ZenGum 09-29-2008 09:08 AM

I am hoping for Obama. If McCain wins, I just hope he stays healthy!

dar512 09-29-2008 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 487303)
and I don't have the energy to drag a hyperactive toddler to a polling location for some paltry act of symbolism.

Absentee ballots are convenient.

Big Sarge 09-29-2008 10:25 AM

I'm voting McCain. If Obama wins, I will support him because he will be my commander in chief

glatt 09-29-2008 10:29 AM

I just learned that I'm allowed to vote absentee (in advance on a machine in city hall) here in Arlington because I'll be out of the state a mile away in D.C. for most of the day. Just like every other day I go to work. They count the votes on that machine on election night. The wait on election day is about an hour, so I may just do that.

Clodfobble 09-29-2008 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dar512
Absentee ballots are convenient.

I don't qualify:

Quote:

Who Can Absentee Vote in Texas?

To vote early by mail, a voter must meet one of the following criteria:

1. Have a sickness or disability which keeps him/her from getting to the polls; or
2. Be 65 years old or older on election day; or
3. Expect to be absent from his/her county during early voting and on election day; or
4. Be confined in jail.
That being said, often our early voting locations are inside grocery stores. I could probably pull that off, because grocery carts have handy little seatbelts that trap him in (and unlike a stroller, he's used to going to the grocery store and wouldn't scream abou it.)

classicman 09-29-2008 02:51 PM

You qualify under #3 - you will not be in the area as you will be outta your mind with said child. Srsly, just say you'll be on a trip or out of town - they'll let you vote no prob.

BigV 09-29-2008 05:23 PM

:tips cap to UT for excellent thread:

I am voting for Obama. But if McCain wins, I think we will have a competent, experienced leader as our new President. McCain has leadership skills and experience and they will be much needed in his new office. President McCain will every chance and no excuse to reform the living daylights out of "dose bums". He will be an active President. ...

And that, my friends, is a *LOT* of lemonade.

because I find all his lemons terribly bitter. I do find his similarities in to Bush damning. I find his penchant for "action" a euphemism for shoot first ask questions later. That hasn't worked out so great for us as a country recently. We need someone in that office who's more inclined to think past the opening moves to the possible unexpected outcomes in addition to the hoped for outcome. I don't see McCain doing that. I see him a man of action. Not exactly a drama queen, but more comfortable in chaos, in flux, dancin around, rope a dope, feint jab jab move yer feet... stop already.

I will remain hopeful and optimistic that our great country can survive the worst that either of these candidates could throw at it, having survived for the past eight years. Because in the worst case, it will only be eight years.

classicman 09-29-2008 10:06 PM

If I don't vote at all which candidate will benefit? Cuz even not voting is like voting for someone.

Clodfobble 09-29-2008 11:35 PM

You're in Pennsylvania, right? I think that's a battleground state this year...

SamIam 09-30-2008 12:36 AM

I will vote for Obama, but if McCain wins, I will pray to my Lord and Saviour, Buddha, that Palin will drown in the runoff of an Alaskan glacier that is melting rapidly due to global warming. I can find some good things to say for McCain, but the thought of having a Pentecostal running the country is terrifying.

NoBoxes 09-30-2008 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 487209)
... Now you post it. With feeling.

I am voting. Whether McCain or Obama wins, I will remain open minded, optimistic, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

DanaC 09-30-2008 09:08 AM

Looking in from the outside, I get the impression that either candidate is going to preside over a fundamentally different America in many ways. The neo-con experiment has shown itself for the danger that it is. America is a proudly capitalist country and there's nothing wrong with that, it's been the source of her strength for the whole of her ascendency. But there's a huge differece between subscribing to a largely laissez-faire economic strategy and playing fast and loose with the financial health of the nation.

My prediction, and my hope, is that regardless of which candidate wins, we have seen an end to the free for all of robber barons and the ideology of greed which underpinned it. When a traditional Conservative puts to me the argument against welfare, I disagree with it, but I can see their logic and their good (societally speaking) intent. When a neo-con makes that same argument, it flounders on the greed of their elite, their willingness to interfere in the market only for their own gain and the seeming delight of the anti-poor rhetoric. These people, who have steered the American economy into such dangerous waters, willfully ignoring the needs of their nation in their rush to profit, have fostered a hard attitude towards those who fail.

Personally, I'd like to see American conservatism return to its more traditional roots. I may not like their political message, but I understand it. I understand that it is, whilst obviously in the interests of the ruling elite, also a stance that puts the country's health at its core.

I hope Obama wins. I think most people over here that have an opinion, see him as the preferred candidate. But even if McCain wins, I think the zeitgeist just changed. Whether the answer to America's current problems is a right-wing, or left-wing direction, it isn't a neo-con path that's needed. The Gold Rush has ended. There are accounts to be settled and a serious contemplation of how the state and market relate to each other to be entered into.

kerosene 09-30-2008 11:31 AM

Well stated, Dana. I like reading your posts.

Sundae 10-05-2008 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 487990)
You're in Pennsylvania, right? I think that's a battleground state this year...

I assume you had this in mind ;) (link to a Cellar post)

TheMercenary 10-05-2008 09:57 AM

I am voting for KY this year.


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