UPDATE 2-US clout down, risks up by 2025 -intel outlook
 

I believe it. I sort of welcome it.


By Randall Mikkelsen

WASHINGTON, Nov 20 (Reuters) - U.S. economic and political clout will decline over the next two decades and the world will be more dangerous, with food and water scarce and advanced weapons plentiful, U.S. spy agencies projected on Thursday.

The National Intelligence Council analysis "Global Trends 2025" also said the current financial crisis on Wall Street is just the first phase of a global economic reordering.

http://www.reuters.com/article/usDol...41155720081120

And on a related note:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-US-power.html

I'm encouraged by our unwillingness to charge out to combat the Somalian pirates, as the cop of the world. :vikingsmi

I am with you. Maybe it is time for people to feel some pain of our inaction. I am ok with it. A few good genocides, some famines, a couple of high profile coups. It's all good.

We certainly have enough on our national "to do" list w/o getting involved in other countries lack of initiative. Let the rest of the world pick up the slack for a change. China has a lot extra manpower and resources these days, let's let them handle a few calls. Umm, on second thought, scratch that last part.

China is too busy poisoning the world's food supply to handle any calls. But let's burn their flag in protest anyway...

Since India is buying everything from fighters to aircraft carriers, including hundreds of helicopters with sophisticated anti-tank and anti-submarine missile capabilities, they can train their crews by fighting pirates.

Who will be out protesting these new military powers? How sexy will it be to bash other countries for using military force in a civilized world of lawyers and court proceedings?

Who cares?

How many times do the Mayans have to say it?

Hmmm...it wouldnt be anything new. We are already ignoring much of the strife that exists in the world.

Only once, if they'd said it in English like civilized people.:lol2:

Yea, you can't have it both ways. We are involved or we are not. We sure the hell are not the worlds policeman and we sure the hell should not be the worlds savior. We learned that in Somalia the hard way.

I had a brass 'perpetual calender' made in India. It was good up until 2025, 2052, or something like that. It wasn't a prediction, it was just that the design stopped at that point. I don't know how the Mayan system was designed, even after reading the Wiki article, which gave me a headache.

It just reminds me too much of the Y2K problem. Someone figured out how much effort it would take to carve an extra group of lines into 30,000 walls and monuments and said '*** that'.

Well its about time we spend more time, effort and resources here anyway, don't you think? We cannot be the policemen of the world and take care of every other country's problems, can we? I think its about time the world stops looking to America to cure all its ills.

Perhaps its time America got back to taking better care of its own and worrying less about things abroad.

The clout of the USA is declining? No kiddin? [/sarcasm]

Yeh really. We've had a president that hasn't done anything positive in forever, looks like a monkey and acts like an idiot. Gee I can't imagine why our influence is declining

No, we can still evaporate you. It's respect your thinking of.

I welcome a decline. And I welcome a complete withdrawl from support of nations outside our own, including the UK, Israel, Canada, any country in Africa, all Mid East countries, Germany, everyone. I say FUCK them all. They really don't need us. Seriously. And add any other country that has enjoyed our support for so many years. Let them go it alone. They don't need us. Fuck them. We need to take care of our own first. I fullly support the notion that the US needs to take it's nose out of the rest of the world and withdraw all support from the UN and any other country. I'am in.

Good point. Sir.

You been hanging around with radar again?

No, I just have had enough of the bleeding heart liberal attitude that if they want to end it all let's just do it. Let them be responsible for the outcome of such a decision. If they only knew that many of these guys will be re-jailed or outright executed they may have a different thought, but you know what fuck it. I say let those who are so intent on closing it down do so. And they get to have the responsibility for the subsequent actions. I welcome their ignorance.

well look at it this way - Gitmo is closing and we have to do something with these people - whats your serious suggestion?

Send them home and let fate take hold. Seriously. I could care less at this point. I think we should wait til after Obama takes office so we can say, "told you so."

Of course the right thing to do would be to give the real bad guys trials and put them in a US federal prison til death (if found guilty), and set the rest free with a GPS chip in their head to track them, but most would never agree. :D

Ok, ok, how about we give each of the non-actors a row boat and a paddle and tell them to go for it. Drag them about 200 miles off Cuba to the East and say, "GO!".

I do NOT want to put them in any prison here whatsoever, I don't want to spend one more dime on this whole thing. Send them home, send them to France, send them to the moon - just send them somewhere else and get it over with.

Obamy promised to close it immediately, heard him say it on 60 Minutes Sunday. I fully support his notion. Go Obama do it! be careful what you wish for. The law of unintended consequenses is a bitch.

Are you sure you're commenting on the right thread Merc? There's one dedicated to Gitmo which I think you'd be better off putting your comments in. lol