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Shawnee123 01-20-2009 08:45 AM

Car/shocks?
 
If there's a car question thread I apologize.

Can shocks freeze? My trip to work was bouncy bouncy bouncy bouncy fun fun fun fun fun...cause the wonderful thing about shocks, is I might have only one.

Apologies to Tigger.

So, the back driver side hits any bump and I feel like I'm on a bumpy rollercoaster.

What could it be? It wasn't like that last week. It was 1 degree at my place this morning. But something's probably broken...

Any ideas car peeps?

lumberjim 01-20-2009 09:16 AM

before tw starts berating you for not including enough information to diagnose this.....

what kind of car is it, shaw?

is it banging, or just real floaty and bouncy?

Shawnee123 01-20-2009 09:32 AM

It's a '96 Olds Cutlass Supreme.

It's bumpy. I can't say it was physically banging or making bangy noises...but it did jerk me around. Like somewhere between bangy and floaty. I didn't hear any clunks or the like. I could tell it was on the driver's side when I went over the speed bump on the way into my parking lot this a.m.

Yeah, big help huh? :o

lumberjim 01-20-2009 09:46 AM

I'll ask around in a bit...i just got a deal on my desk....
I did have struts sieze in my rabbit back in the day.

Undertoad 01-20-2009 10:00 AM

That's normal behavior for a 96 Olds Cutlass Supreme.

Shawnee123 01-20-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 524443)
That's normal behavior for a 96 Olds Cutlass Supreme.

Heh...it's never been the greatest car ever. I'm just hoping it will make it through the winter, with as few band-aids as possible, until I am ready to get a new car.

It was never so jumpy though.

HungLikeJesus 01-20-2009 10:35 AM

Maybe you lost a few lug nuts.

xoxoxoBruce 01-20-2009 10:46 AM

Lost lugs shouldn't make it bouncy though, it should make it wiggly.

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96 Olds Cutlass Supreme
It's obvious Rick Wagoner and the evil MBA's at GM built your car knowing 13 years down the road you would suffer the consequences of your unamerican purchase caused by their failure to innovate.

HungLikeJesus 01-20-2009 11:04 AM

Shawnee, is your back end bouncy or wiggly?

Perhaps you could provide a video.

lumberjim 01-20-2009 11:22 AM

96 cutlass has shocks in the rear. shocks retard the bounce from the springs as they recoil. shocks are filled with gas usually, and in extreme cold, they can become ....sluggish.....so you'd perceive a bumpier ride.

if you begin to hear banging noises, have it checked out asap.

it may need new shocks.....($111/pair at shockwarehouse)
how many miles on it?

Shawnee123 01-20-2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 524460)
Lost lugs shouldn't make it bouncy though, it should make it wiggly.

It's obvious Rick Wagoner and the evil MBA's at GM built your car knowing 13 years down the road you would suffer the consequences of your unamerican purchase caused by their failure to innovate.

Nah, I don't think the MBAs' heads were out of their asses long enough to look 13 years into the future to know what a piece of crap it would be/was/is. It has all the "stuff" people like, that I hate: auto windows (passenger side hasn't worked in years despite having 4 people 'fix' it. Auto locks (it's like Chinese Torture Trap getting out of the fucker.) Auto brakes (sounds like Darth Vader is in my floorboard.) They put all the bells and whistles on it and forgot to include the car.

Anyway, I wouldn't have bought this car.

It was needed after my dear little Honda died.

Next car will be jap. Unless I find a good Beamer for cheap.

Thanks Jim! I feel better knowing even if I do need new shocks it won't set me back a grand.

Oh, and it has about 200k miles.

lumberjim 01-20-2009 12:06 PM

i know where you can get a good deal on a nissan when it comes time.

Shawnee123 01-20-2009 12:10 PM

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I'll keep that in mind! I loved my Pathfinder years ago (got it before the Honda back in the 2 adults/2 cars days.)

This one looks worthy of not being constantly compared to my CRX:
;)

HungLikeJesus 01-20-2009 12:24 PM

It's "more sportier"!

Shawnee123 01-20-2009 12:27 PM

lol!

I had a friend who used to kid about herself being a hillbilly. She said "I'm not really a hillbilly, I'm more of a "sport" billy."

Too funny.

tw 01-20-2009 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 524436)
It's a '96 Olds Cutlass Supreme.

It's bumpy. I can't say it was physically banging or making bangy noises...but it did jerk me around. Like somewhere between bangy and floaty.

Obviously, the ride has changed.

Shocks can be analyzed by anyone. A car is raised enough to see where a shiny stainless steel rod enters the body. Sometimes a human can lift it enough. Othertimes a jack may be necessary. No moisture stains must exist on the body. If it looks like water or oil has been leaking out, then the shocks have been leaking and are defective.

Better manufacturers routinely put a plastic boot over that area to keep dirt out. Some GM products did not. You may have to lift that boot up to see the shock absorber body - where a stainless steel shaft enters. Inspection for leaking shocks is that obvious and definitive.

Another test is to drive down a highway with another car alongside. If the shocks (or something else just as serious) has failed, then that wheel will be bouncing obviously and even on smooth pavement.

Shawnee123 01-20-2009 02:56 PM

Thanks tw!

I'll take a look tonight perhaps. If it can't make it through 'til spring, I hope it can at least make it to the weekend when I can get it fixed.

One small drawback to new job: I can't just call and say "hey, my car sucks today, someone come get me." :)

tw 01-20-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 524549)
I'll take a look tonight perhaps. If it can't make it through 'til spring, I hope it can at least make it to the weekend when I can get it fixed.

If an adjacent car can observe the wheel bouncing, then you have no alternative but to fix it ASAP. A bouncing wheel not only wears tires quickly. It causes a significant loss of control, braking abilities, and other bad things that only become obvious when you most need to manuever or stop.

Bouncing wheel may indicate something worse than just a bad shock. Or could be something simple such as a missing bolt holding one shock attached to that wheel.

Shawnee123 01-20-2009 03:13 PM

My tummy hurts. I hate cars. What a pain.

Thanks for your help.

footfootfoot 01-20-2009 03:21 PM

You could sell raffle tickets to win a picture of your awesome boobs and buy a new car with the cash.

Just a thought.

footfootfoot 01-20-2009 03:22 PM

I know a photographer who might be willing to take a few artistic shots, btw.

Shawnee123 01-20-2009 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 524571)
You could sell raffle tickets to win a picture of your awesome boobs and buy a new car with the cash.

Just a thought.

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 524573)
I know a photographer who might be willing to take a few artistic shots, btw.

Haven't you seen them enough, foot? I mean, I know they're mind-boggling, but are they really all that different than the trillions of other boobs which have inhabited and will inhabit this earth?

Now, some space boobs...those might be interestin'

footfootfoot 01-20-2009 03:27 PM

I thought you said you didn't work for nasa?

Shawnee123 01-20-2009 03:31 PM

I said I didn't work for Massa.

tw 01-20-2009 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 524565)
My tummy hurts. I hate cars. What a pain.

Have some fun. Remove both rear shock absorbers. The car becomes a really neat bouncing platform; better than any bed. Best bouncers are the whales with softest suspensions and coil springs - not leaf springs.

glatt 01-20-2009 08:53 PM

speaking of bouncing and shocks, did anyone else notice how bouncy that new presidential limo is?

ZenGum 01-21-2009 06:41 AM

It has helium in the tires, so it can do jumps even when there is no ramp.

Sundae 01-21-2009 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 524571)
You could sell raffle tickets to win a picture of your awesome boobs and buy a new car with the cash.

Just a thought.

What a good idea! Sell raffle tickets to cover the cost of a boob job (for me I mean, not Shawnee) and the winner gets fondling rights...

Shawnee123 01-21-2009 10:18 AM

It could be like a cake walk at a carnival. Everyone pays to walk and when the music stops you have to get the boobs the winner is standing on.

:lol2:

Shawnee123 01-22-2009 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 524478)
96 cutlass has shocks in the rear. shocks retard the bounce from the springs as they recoil. shocks are filled with gas usually, and in extreme cold, they can become ....sluggish.....so you'd perceive a bumpier ride.

if you begin to hear banging noises, have it checked out asap.

it may need new shocks.....($111/pair at shockwarehouse)
how many miles on it?


Well you were right jim. You're the winnah.

On the way home last night, since it had warmed up a bit outside, it was normal. Hallelujah!

I may be able to eke it out until spring. Is that even a real sentence?

Tell Jim what he's won, um...Jim!

tw 01-22-2009 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 525242)
On the way home last night, since it had warmed up a bit outside, it was normal. Hallelujah!

That implies that shocks may be slowly failing. May need replacement maybe sometime in the next two years. IOW have then inspected for leakage when convenient this summer; when it is already on a lift, and therefore costs nothing.

A good shock should work little changed in 100 degree or zero degree (F) temperatures. Or act as a better shock absorber in coldest weather. If cold means a bouncier ride, then internal seals may be leaking now, and may start leaking outside in the next year or so. But then shock absorbers are rather cheap (struts are expensive).

Shawnee123 01-23-2009 07:22 AM

Thanks tw, and all.

It sounds like I will be able to hang on with this car for just a while longer.

As soon as I get a new car this summer, I am going on a solo road trip...wherever the wind takes me. It's been a dream for a few years. I guess I'll need a sunroof. :)


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