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TEA Parties
Dangit... I wanted to attend the TEA Party from noon to two in Ventura CA today, and I didn't make it. Drat.
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That sucks UG. How come you didn't make it?
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The Boston Tea Party was to protest taxation without representation.
Guess what? You have representation. You voted. You lost. Now get out there and do something for the GOOD of the country. Or keep whining. Your choice. That is all. |
will they have Devonshire cream? *hopehope*
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Didn't you read or hear that ACORN planned to infiltrate the tea parties and take names in order to report back to Obama with a list of right wing subversives that need watching. It had to be true....Michelle Malkin said so! |
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Where did I say they have no right to voice their discontent? They can voice their discontent all they want. However, I would think more highly of their efforts (and by their I mean Fox News and the ilk) if they had fashioned it after something that didn't smack of ridiculous, and if their patriotism included wanting our country to succeed instead of hoping we fail miserably so that they can be "right."
Not impressed. Yawn. Oh, and still, blaming it on Obama....come on, how do they do that with a straight fucking face? Who the fuck got us into this mess? I'm glad there are those of us who aren't mooing cattle following the collective trough of lies. We will go down in flames. Then they can cheer and be "right." How nice that will be for them, as they stand in bread lines all puffed up and proud with their I told you so eyes. For me, I didn't approve of Bush, AFTER he fucked it all up, but I would have hoped we would never see the mess we do now. I suppose my brand of patriotism isn't about being personally "right" but about fixing the fucking shit so that this American Dream doesn't become a paragraph in a cheesy history book. Un. Be. Lievable. |
Dissent is patriotic.
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It's what makes us great.
Constant whining just makes us look like the French. ;) |
uh the french! Thats a really low blow.
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so. No Devonshire cream, I suppose.
you wankers. |
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are you, classicman, kicking me in the nether region in a celebratory manner due to the absence of Devonshire cream? An absence you yourself most likely engineered? HUH?
is that what you're doing there? Real matoor, classic, real matoor. |
While Urbane is the resident right wing wacko on this board, he's also the recipe guy, and since I didn't know anything about these "Tea parties" I honestly thought he was posting about food. I didn't notice we were in the current events forum. I'm with you Brianna.
I might go make myself some green tea right now... |
Grab me some, will you?
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I would never deprive you of your sweet cream, nor your tea. |
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My mom goes to these tea parties, if that tells you anything..........LOL.
It's a place for suburbanites to talk about the new guns they have purchased and tell each other that Obama is the anti-christ blah blah blah. Obama did it, blame Obama..blah blah blah...Obama the secret spy that was sent from other secret factions to destroy the country la la laaa. (for those of you who haven't heard of these tea parties) Yes there is a group in this country thinking that they are about to go to war and they get together and talk about it. Apparently Obama has destroyed this country. Even before he was sworn in he did it somehow. Must be a tricky guy. There are two types of people. Tea party people and not tea party people. Be advised. :) |
Jebus H...the foil sales must have been through the ROOF. Foil sales as economic stimulus? I like. ;)
Oh lord, I am frightened for us all. |
i get a lot of email forwards bashing Obama from this guy that sends me some funny stuff. I really dont give a shit about it enough to ask him to stop sending political stuff, but i find it mildly distasteful.
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Yea, there were people with signs who STILL think Obama is not a US citizen.
What really slays me about the people who are protesting the whole tax issue, is that most of them will do better under Obama. How the right gets people to vote against their own best interests, or to go out and protest for something that is against their own best interests, is beyond me. |
I saw a bumper sticker the other day: Obama Lied. The Economy Died.
I wanted to ram my car into the dumbass. Seriously. Dumb. Ass. 3 fucking months after 8 years? WTF can these people to be thinking? MORONS? STFU! KTHXBAI! |
Yah my mom manages to out-yell me on the phone about it. How Obama destroyed everything........Get more guns everybody! Obama is going to make white slave camps and put us all in them. LOL! There are people that look normal. But they are not normal. Another advisory.
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shhh, shhh, Shawnee!
Darling, This is OHIO! you'll do well to remember that. |
I know. I know. :(
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I find it best to gauge my views on the extreme fringes of a group. It's much easier to ignore the issues that way.
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See: Acorn
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I can see the silly Left has leapt out in unison if not force -- and altogether stumbled in their understanding.
Glatt, you don't have to be crazy to perceive the unwisdom of the Left. It doesn't even help. See below for why the unwisdom is so easy to perceive. Green tea, however, is definitely not crazy -- though I'm more a black-tea guy. Unsubtle palate. Presently, a left-leaning Administration is demonstrating the Democrats' economic illiteracy in a big, nay gigantic, way. The stimulus will debase the currency by inflation. Nobody here disputes that you can't fix a problem of excessive, ill-secured debt with more debt. But Congress is behaving like they'd never heard of that idea. The Republicans are going to be able to campaign on the idea of "Had Enough?" again after a couple of years of this. This inflation, and growth of the almighty nanny State, are what the TEA (Taxed Enough Already) bunch is annoyed with Congress and the President about. It's not at all about airing silly ideas about Obama's citizenship, or any of the notions floated in this thread, really. It's bipartisan. If there's anything really identifiable as the center of their bell curve, it's a tendency to center-right politics, and calling for better (cheaper) governance. Nor is it all Federal-level. TEA in California is directing at least as much attention to Sacramento's spending as to Washington's. Sacramento isn't paying attention to the idea that outlay should be slashed until it is at least somewhat below income -- state-provided services must be reduced to stay within this state's means. Instead, they raise taxes all over the place. Serve 'em right if revenue consequently declines. They won't hear the idea that maybe Californians are man enough to take care of their personal needs without going to state officials. They heap burdens upon economic activity, driving up the cost of doing business. That's bloody silly. Even sillier is how they're ignoring how businesses look at California-imposed costs and move out of state in search of better bargains elsewhere. Sacramento needs a two-by-four. Quote:
Debasing the dollar is not good for the Republic. Inflationary pressures act to debase the currency. That Government is best which governs least. Or has to govern least. As long, at any rate, as it governs a little, for anarchy isn't a fix for anything much either. Does what the present Administration is doing sound like "governs least?" The private sector economy creates wealth. The public sector's expenditures do not. Taxation to bankroll government's outlays is to do those things a society agrees need to be done, but which are not of themselves profitable. They are more in the realm of overhead -- particularly in the general heading of security, such as police and armies. At any rate, it is always likely that control and reduction of public-sector costs and expenditure controls inflation and frees capital to use in actual creation of wealth. There's the good. |
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I think S123 was saying that Acorn was an example of a parties extreme.
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I dont think ACORN is extreme. I think its mission is quite noble.
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I'm also a silly leftist. I didn't jump either.
I only came along because it sounded like you were doing the Timewarp in here. |
@ Sundae: I lol'd heartily at that.
I actually think the tea parties are a brilliant idea. I disagree fundamentally with the political views they support, but as an expression of popular political identities I think it's wonderful. It's drenched in history, laden with inherent and instantly recognised symbolism, and the people involved engage with it at a family and community level as well as a public and political level. It also looks fun. There needs to be more joy and celebration in our politics. The content of the conversations one might hear at such an event may well appear joyless or founded on fear to one of us lefties, but the actual even itself seems to me a fairly joyous expression of political agency. Shame you missed it UG. I bet you'd have had a ball. :( |
I agree Pico - The cause is an outstanding one. That is partly what upsets me so much about it.
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Actually, I don't have any kind of clear view on that. I have leapt (rather ungracefully I admit) to a conclusion based on the fact that UG supports them...
And the few little bits I've heard about them lead me to think they object to the kind tax system that I personally am in favour of :P But I am happy to stand corrected if I am wrong on that. My point still stands; but I'll pose it in more hypothetical terms: I may disagree fundamentally with the political views they support, but I would still consider it a wonderful expression of popular political identities. |
I didn't mean to put you on the spot, I know only a little about what the tea parties were organized for, but it seems they attracted a whole host of other people touting other political issues at the events.
Aside/I find it rather amusing that you, a Brit, disagree with the American tea parties. :) |
They're still a little sensitive about tea, don't push it.
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Yah I can understand the sensitivity. I watch people ruin perfectly good cups of Earl Grey, and I wonder how I can train the masses to make it properly.
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What, with cream and sugar? Yummmm!
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These are from the Indianapolis rally
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I didn't bring a sign. My mission was to take the time out of my busy schedule and take photos of normal type folks at the protest to show them to all those that did not attend.
I was so proud of these people. Many of them seemed out of place and didn't know exactly what to do or what to think about having their picture taken. My message to all that participated; I'm proud of all of you. You were all polite, there were very few obscene signs and you took part instead of sitting on the sidelines. |
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We're finally on our own. This summer I hear the drumming, Four dead in Ohio. |
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Looks like a Ron Paul supporter there with the HR 450 sign.
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And finally.....
The after event food. It's really all about the food. :) This is the place that the only protest is against warm beer and cold ribs. |
Savannah had some 1500 people in attendence and many of the smaller communities around it had groups of about 100 in the central parts of the towns.
http://savannahnow.com/node/707582 |
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Oh, wait. Maybe not... |
The stimulus money IS saving jobs. It is also starting to create some. Give it time. He has only been in office a short time. This stuff does not work overnight.
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How much did all y'all pay in Federal Taxes this year? Put your money where your mouth is! And then list what federal resources you used.
and then bitch about it if you think you didn't get your money's worth. we paid nothing to the Feds. we couldn't believe it, but after all our other credits, we weren't even able to clain the full credit for all our children. But we still drove on the Interstates (are they federally funded?), and we were protected by federal law (:lol:) and um.... well MIL from UK was thoroughly checked on entry and cleared, although apparently her flight surcharges paid for that.... So really, what's all the whingeing about? Or is it just "The Principle Of The Thing"? |
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