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Radar 05-12-2009 04:47 PM

I finally bought my hot dog cart!!!
 
It's not the cart of my dreams, but it will work. I got it for $2,300.

It's a steam cart, but it has a portable grill on it. I figure I can use this until I break even, then I can get something better. The guy took a photo with a Sabrett's umbrella, but didn't give me the umbrella. It's not a big deal. The handles are missing on some of the pans but the guy says to use the tongs. I may just buy new pans.

The latch on the left door at the bottom is missing so I can see this being a problem when driving. The burner on the left is missing a couple of bolts to hold it in place so it jiggles. I will replace the bolts. It's missing the connector that goes from the propane to the portable grill. I'll have to buy one if I can find it.

I've already got my spot secured and paid for. I'll be selling dogs directly across the street from the Social Security Building in an area that has one of the highest concentrations of retired people in America. I'm working on the business paperwork at the moment.

I've got to get my state license. Then I apply to get a plan reviewed by the health department. Then I get an inspection. Then my county and/or city occupational permit. I'm also talking to a lawyer and an accountant about business structure, dba, etc.

I just got offered an IT job for $40/hr down here. That's almost what I was making in Los Angeles, and it's a lot cheaper here in Florida. It is very tempting, especially because the job is from 5pm to 2am. I could still run the cart.

Here's the ad I got the cart from. Let me know what you think.


http://orlando.craigslist.org/bfs/1158363561.html


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lumberjim 05-12-2009 05:18 PM

Quote:

his is a quality mobile hot dog cart.
Custom body 2 propane tanks
1 hand washing sink
1 Umbrella
Hook it up to your vehicle drive away and open for business!
4 Steaming pans with lids
2 direct heat pans
Stainless steel grill
Two custom made fold out shelves
All necessary equipment to start making big money
WTF? what kind of a lay down are you?! go get your umbrella or take him on Judge Judy this instant!

Beestie 05-12-2009 05:29 PM

The ad says the umbrella is included. C'mon Jim, I'll swing by and pick up Zip and we'll teach that shiester a lesson he won't soon forget.

Who the hell does he think he's messin' with?

The cart is awesome, Radar. I respect a man who says what he's going to do and, adversity be damned, goes out and does it. Serve hot dogs from 9:30am to 2:30pm, go home, shower up and report to the IT job at 5pm. Good man.

Radar 05-12-2009 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 565211)
WTF? what kind of a lay down are you?! go get your umbrella or take him on Judge Judy this instant!


It's seriously not that big a deal. My uncle Manny sells Sabretts and he has extra umbrella's he can give me. It's just the point that he said it was included in the ad, and when I went to buy it, suddenly it's missing.

Undertoad 05-12-2009 05:39 PM

I should think there'd be legal restrictions on that, ie, can't sell a Sabrett's brella to anybody because they might not sell Sabrett's.

Radar 05-12-2009 05:46 PM

Excellent point. I'm torn between branding myself (some people are brand loyal) or not. I'm leaning toward not branding and just getting a nice red & white umbrella.

If you brand yourself, they give you free things like umbrella's, signs, menus, etc. especially if you brand with Vienna Beef. They give you everything.

Sabretts are a bit less generous, but they do have the red onion sauce a lot of people seem to love.

If I don't brand, I don't get screwed if Sabretts or Vienna decide to raise prices. I can just switch brands.

On the advice of a very intelligent man I know, I was considering using Thumann's dogs, but they only sell 8/1 dogs. They don't have footlongs, or quarter pounders. This means I'd have to sell 2 different brands or only sell regular dogs...which might turn out to be better anyway.

lumberjim 05-12-2009 06:01 PM

if you're gonna market your brand, put your Dante's Devil Dogs Logo on the Umbrella.

oh, and congrats, man.....that's freaking awesome!

Radar 05-12-2009 06:07 PM

Thanks. Now if I can only get a van with a tow hitch. :)

Pooka 05-12-2009 06:08 PM

For some reason I thought you were somehow comparing yourself to Ignacious... but I see you are serious... in which case I must add...

Hebrew national have ALWAYS been my favorite and were the only dogs I went for in NYC when I lived there. Are you going to grill your dogs or will they be "Dirty water dogs?"

Radar 05-12-2009 06:30 PM

I would prefer to have a flat grill like I originally intended. I think the smell of grilled dogs, onions, peppers, Italian sausages, brats, etc. brings a crowd.

For now, they will be dirty water dogs.

Aliantha 05-12-2009 06:35 PM

Good for you Radar. I hope it all works out exactly as you'd like it to. :)

lookout123 05-12-2009 06:38 PM

congratulations radar. don't get discouraged with all the little hurdles, you're living the dream.

Radar 05-12-2009 07:26 PM

Thank you all.

We bought a house cash and it will close on Thursday. We'll have no credit card payments, no house payments, no car payments, etc. and will be able to get by on very little, but will be able to save a lot if I make a lot. :)

glatt 05-12-2009 07:26 PM

That cart looks great! Good job Radar. It's really coming along now.

Elspode 05-12-2009 07:30 PM

This is awesome, Radar. I say take the IT job, get a firm financial foundation under you and your family, and build the dog business slowly, with a plan and a goal. In three or four years, pay others to run your fleet of carts, and live like a king.

You go, dude. Oh. And get a custom Devil Dog umbrella made. Trust me on this.

jinx 05-12-2009 07:44 PM

Congrats Radar! I am so totally impressed :thumb::thumb:

Tiki 05-12-2009 08:20 PM

It looks awesome!

richlevy 05-12-2009 08:37 PM

Congratulations Radar.

Don't forget spicy beef sausages. I love the Dietz and Watson ones.

capnhowdy 05-12-2009 08:56 PM

I knew you could do it. Good luck!

monster 05-12-2009 08:59 PM

Just yesterday I was wondering how you were doing and meant to ask for an update (and from the other dwellars currently "at a turning point in their career").

I'm inclined to vote for no branding -you seem more the independant sort, and get your mascot on the umbrella instead.

classicman 05-12-2009 10:19 PM

That's awesome Radar. I'm so very happy for you. You are living the dream. You set up the plan and you're seein it through - most courageous and entrepreneurial. The American way. Congrats and great luck.

Oh, one last thing. If you don't get Dante on your umbrella I'll come down there and ...

spudcon 05-12-2009 10:34 PM

This might be the most secure business in this economy right now. Congratulations!

ZenGum 05-13-2009 02:57 AM

Congrats radar, way to live that American dream.

Let us know how long it takes for some joker dressed as Buddha to come up to you and say "make me one with everything".

DanaC 05-13-2009 03:04 AM

Oh! This is SO exciting!

Radar I'm chuffed to bits for you, I really am, mate. Sounds like a sensible thing to do, maybe, taking on the job as well. Just in case the business is slow to build. Though, I suspect it won't be!

This is exactly the sort of thing that (I personally think) will do well in the current economic climate. People are less happy about eating out at restaurants, but a few dollars on a hotdog is a cheap way of feeling flush and makes for a decent workday lunch.

Good luck with it. Keep posting pics! We want one with you set up at your pitch, lookin' all hotdoggy :)

ZenGum 05-13-2009 06:27 AM

Let me just add:


Hot-diggetty-dog!!!

Pie 05-13-2009 08:32 AM

ZenGum: "Make me one with everything"
:lol2:

Congrats, Radar! Do Dwellars get a free dog? :yum:

Shawnee123 05-13-2009 08:35 AM

Pie! That was perfect! :notworthy:

Hope you are very successful Radar.

ZenGum 05-13-2009 08:44 AM

He will be. That Radar, no matter what happens, he just bounces right back.

classicman 05-13-2009 08:48 AM

lol
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pie (Post 565365)
ZenGum: "Make me one with everything"

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 565373)
Radar: He just bounces right back.

Those two belong here

Pie 05-13-2009 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 565318)
Let us know how long it takes for some joker dressed as Buddha to come up to you and say "make me one with everything".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 565368)
Pie! That was perfect! :notworthy

I was quoting ZG there... ;)

Shawnee123 05-13-2009 09:54 AM

Oh...OK ZEN that was perfect.

:)

kerosene 05-13-2009 11:02 AM

So happy for you, Radar. We just had brats at a hotdog stand yesterday and it made me think of this thread. The guy makes his own brats. They were very good.

Radar 05-13-2009 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pie (Post 565365)
ZenGum: "Make me one with everything"
:lol2:

Congrats, Radar! Do Dwellars get a free dog? :yum:


Thanks everyone. I am still in the midst of doing paperwork, and stuff. It will be a month or so before I actually open up.

And yes, Dwellars get a free dog if they make it to Ocala, FL.


Do you remember the response to the "Make me one with everything"?

I believe it goes like this....

A Buddhist monk, visiting New York City for the first time in twenty years, walked up to a hot dog vendor, handed him a twenty dollar bill, and said, “Make me one with everything.”

The vendor pocketed the money, and handed the Buddhist monk his hot dog. The monk, after waiting for a moment, asked for his change. The vendor looked at him and said, “Change comes from within.” With a wistful smile, the monk walked away.

Queen of the Ryche 05-13-2009 02:09 PM

I was hoPING the stand would be on its way! Way to go Radar!

BrianR 05-16-2009 06:33 AM

Free dog: I'll take you up on that, Tom!

I get there from time to time and I have relatives living there.

lumberjim 05-16-2009 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianR (Post 566145)
Free dog: I'll take you up on that, Tom!

paul
:blush:

lumberjim 05-16-2009 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar (Post 565426)

A Buddhist monk, visiting New York City for the first time in twenty years, walked up to a hot dog vendor, handed him a twenty dollar bill, and said, “Make me one with everything.”

The vendor pocketed the money, and handed the Buddhist monk his hot dog. The monk, after waiting for a moment, asked for his change. The vendor looked at him and said, “Change comes from within.” With a wistful smile, the monk walked away.

put that on a plaque on your cart

ohgr 05-16-2009 09:36 PM

Out of curiousity sake how many hotdogs would you have to sell every day to live off of?

Maybe i underestimate the general populous' ability to consume mass amounts of phallus shaped meat

lumberjim 05-16-2009 09:49 PM

EAD hot dog carts sell over 300,000 hot dogs per day in the US.

ZenGum 05-16-2009 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 566271)
EAD hot dog carts sell over 300,000 hot dogs per day in the US.

Eat A Dick hot dog carts?????


I always thought so ....:right:

Ibby 05-17-2009 12:34 AM

Radar:
speaking as one of clearly only a few resident vegetarians, are you going to serve veggie dogs? Or is it simply not profitable?

Radar 05-17-2009 09:38 AM

There are people who sell veggie dogs. I'm not one of them because you don't sell enough of them to make it worth it, and also because veggie dogs is sacrilege to hot dog lovers.

Ibby 05-17-2009 09:58 AM

*shrugs* fair 'nuff I guess.

Griff 05-17-2009 03:14 PM

How about a gluten free wrap?

capnhowdy 05-17-2009 04:14 PM

I think poosie shaped buns would be cool. Maybe not marketable, but cool.

ZenGum 05-17-2009 08:35 PM

veggie dogs in gluten free buns ...

...maybe in San Francisco, but not in Florida!

monster 05-17-2009 10:54 PM

i'd like a dog with 2% fat, beef and chicken meat only -definiely no pork, with the soy and flax-based filler.

I'll ake it on a garlic narn with organic mushroom ketchup.

thanks.

No, you're OK, keep the 14c change.... you've earned it.....

Undertoad 05-17-2009 11:33 PM

one wit mustard

kerosene 05-17-2009 11:50 PM

No mustid! Tastes like earwax. Just ketchup, thanks.

xoxoxoBruce 05-17-2009 11:57 PM

And you know what ear wax tastes like, how? :eek:

The management reserves the right to refuse service to anybody he damn well feels like.

kerosene 05-18-2009 12:02 AM

Oh, um, well...

:bolt:

ZenGum 05-18-2009 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 566454)
And you know what ear wax tastes like, how? :eek:

The management reserves the right to refuse service to anybody he damn well feels like.

I reckon Radar should, and probably will, put that sign on his cart. :lol:

I reckon the first one should be there too, in smaller print. Just to deal with the smart-alec whingers. :D

Griff 05-18-2009 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by case (Post 566452)
Just ketchup, thanks.

Blasphemy!

Pie 05-18-2009 07:54 AM

Kraut and mustid, please

dmg1969 05-18-2009 12:27 PM

Congrats on the purchase, Radar! I agree...go get your umbrella! If I'm ever in the area...hold a dog with ketchup and onions for me. :p

Queen of the Ryche 05-18-2009 03:57 PM

I can haz chili n cheez?

capnhowdy 05-18-2009 04:11 PM

Have a box of Tums® and TicTac® on the cart too.

Me wants mustid & relish. And onions finely chopped.

Undertoad 05-18-2009 04:25 PM

One all-beef, mustard, dijon if ya got it. Do you have Orangina or something like that?

Chocolatl 05-18-2009 04:54 PM

Woohoo! Good luck getting everything up and running.

(Also: please include mayo among your cart condiments.)

Kitsune 05-18-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 566425)
veggie dogs in gluten free buns ...

...maybe in San Francisco, but not in Florida!

Not in that area of Florida, anyways.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar
I'll be selling dogs directly across the street from the Social Security Building in an area that has one of the highest concentrations of retired people in America.

Hope the cart came with a blender. ;)

Congrats! After you're running, we'll stop by on our next trip out to ONF and have a dog.


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