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Undertoad 06-30-2009 08:46 AM

Britney's mic live
 

classicman 06-30-2009 09:43 AM

Please tell me that isn't real. Is she really THAT BAD? Perhaps thats someone elses voice lip synced or ???

dar512 06-30-2009 11:06 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_tune

Most music is auto-tuned these days. There are no homely girls on the pop charts.

Shawnee123 06-30-2009 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dar512 (Post 578704)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_tune

Most music is auto-tuned these days. There are no homely girls on the pop charts.

There are a couple, I think. Country charts, however... :headshake All the auto-tunin' on earth doesn't help Taylor Swift.

Master Cthulhu 06-30-2009 11:34 AM

I can't stand the auto tune. It gives me a headache right when I hear it.

Trilby 06-30-2009 11:55 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

haters.

Perry Winkle 06-30-2009 12:45 PM

She sounds so out of breath...

Happy Monkey 06-30-2009 12:51 PM

She's dancing, and only singing in order to easier maintain the lip synch. A pre-autotune voice track from the studio would be a better test of her voice.

Clodfobble 06-30-2009 04:09 PM

Yeah, I defy anyone to sing and dance like that at the same time. You can't bend down and touch your toes while you're singing, it changes the shape of your diaphragm. There is no such thing as a performer who dances aerobically and sings live. She's not bothering because she knows it's lip-synched.

Sundae 06-30-2009 04:20 PM

While I agree mostly with you Clod (re sotto singing to match lip-synch) I have to point out that many, many talented musical performers sing and dance aerobically. Even less talented ones (my two ex-housemates who performed on cruise ships for example).

Okay they get far longer breaks between the combined singing and dancing thanks to talky bits and/ or a change of cast for different numbers, but they do manage to do it.

dar512 06-30-2009 04:20 PM

Like HM, I'd like to hear a pre tuned version of her singing.

But that's just to prove a point. I'm not that impressed with the post-processed stuff. There's a lot better pop-tarts out there now.

Clodfobble 06-30-2009 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl
I have to point out that many, many talented musical performers sing and dance aerobically.

I guess what I really mean is bending and crawling a lot, the stuff that looks like what is referred to as "aerobics" exercise here in the US. You can do a lot of prancing and spinning and such, as long as your torso is relatively straight. But bending over in the middle of a lyric (a la 2:30 in the video) just isn't happening.

Sundae 06-30-2009 05:23 PM

I get what you're saying.

Musical theatre is choreographed to take this into account - something I hadn't really appreciated before, seeing only the hard work of rehearsal and from a performing side.
Bending and crawling and furious dancing do happen, but not at times when real belting out is needed. Makes sense - her choreographers don't need to work within the same boundaries. Both look effortless, but one is carefully planned to fit around real singing and the other is planned for maximum visual effect.

Tulip 06-30-2009 11:47 PM

So, y'all are saying if there's that much dancing involved, then the singers aren't really singing live at concerts???

Clodfobble 07-01-2009 08:56 AM

I'd venture to say a decent number aren't really singing live even if there isn't any dancing involved.

Elspode 07-04-2009 01:32 PM

First off, I'd be willing to be Brit isn't much of a singer to begin with, *but*...

In all likelihood, she isn't getting a monitored feed from that mic...no in-ear monitoring, because her singing isn't going to go out over the mains, and she doesn't need monitoring for when she is just speaking to the audience.

All this to say that, even though she isn't much of a singer, if she's dancing and standing amongst all the cacophony of crowd and PA system and such, she can't hear what she's singing - even for lip sync purposes - so she has no way to even remotely stay on pitch. Throw in dancing on top of that, and yeah...she's gonna sound like shit.

Stormieweather 07-04-2009 02:12 PM

I'm agree with Elspode on this. I'm NOT a fan of Britney's, although some of her music is catchy. But if she's lip-syncing, dancing and trying to keep her choreography in sync with the song being played, she will probably need to sing the song softly to herself.

Combine not really trying with running, jumping, contorting one's body about and I'd bet the best singers there are would sound like crap.

Ok, I would.:blush:

jinx 07-04-2009 03:27 PM

I remember when we were doing CMEP... quite a few people commented that they don't like live music. I think this type of entertainment is the result of that sentiment (which obviously isn't uncommon).

Fuck Britney. And fuck cancer too.

Clodfobble 07-04-2009 05:04 PM

My only problem with live music is when the stupid audience keeps cheering over the song I like. If the audience behaves, the impromptu nature of a live performance can be great. I have some awesome mp3s of Eric Clapton, Warren Haynes, and David Wilcox giving live performances where the audience listens appreciatively during the song--actually, now that I've typed that out, I realize that the latter two of those were both from CMEP. :)

Elspode 07-04-2009 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinx (Post 579593)
I remember when we were doing CMEP... quite a few people commented that they don't like live music. I think this type of entertainment is the result of that sentiment (which obviously isn't uncommon).

Fuck Britney. And fuck cancer too.

Live music can be incredible when it is about the *music*, and not the frigging spectacle. Limited amounts of spectacle are great (Tina Turner had a wonderful stage show, but she sang her ass off, and it was clearly live singing), but the spectacle should add to the musical presentation, and not be the point of the show. Either be a musical artist, or be a snatch-showing, pop culture dance ho.

xoxoxoBruce 07-04-2009 08:09 PM

Not that there's anything wrong with that. :haha:

Ibby 07-04-2009 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 579604)
My only problem with live music is when the stupid audience keeps cheering over the song I like. If the audience behaves, the impromptu nature of a live performance can be great. I have some awesome mp3s of Eric Clapton, Warren Haynes, and David Wilcox giving live performances where the audience listens appreciatively during the song--actually, now that I've typed that out, I realize that the latter two of those were both from CMEP. :)

Completely off-topic, but, i dunno if i ever mentioned, my sister was best friends with/went out with david wilcox's son while we lived in maryland. i'd never heard of him till she gave me one of her friend's dad's CDs. now i'm always weirded out when other people have actually heard of him.

Clodfobble 07-04-2009 09:26 PM

Blame glatt, he was the one who included a David Wilcox song on his collection. I'd never heard of him until then.


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