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TheMercenary 07-23-2009 09:26 PM

YouTube Message
 
Fuckers..

"We will be phasing out support for your browser soon.
Please upgrade to one of these more modern browsers."

SteveDallas 07-23-2009 09:35 PM

What browser are you using?

Sperlock 07-23-2009 09:38 PM

Probably IE 6. I've heard that YouTube is going to phase them out. As someone who does some web design, I can only hope that IE 6 will finally die.

Pico and ME 07-24-2009 05:46 AM

Thats why I went to Firefox.

Shawnee123 07-24-2009 07:24 AM

I, for one, have always been a big fan of the Firefox. ;)

Seriously, I finally took the advice offered here at the Cellar and downloaded Firefox and I really do like it.

mbpark 07-24-2009 09:02 AM

Yes, YouTube is getting rid of IE6 support.

About darn time. Besides, Google owns them, so I'd expect the Chrome support to be really good.

Firefox or Chrome should work just fine for that site.

Flint 07-24-2009 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbpark (Post 583670)
About darn time. Besides, Google owns them, so I'd expect the Chrome support to be really good.

In the modern IT world, does the right hand of a corporation really know what the left hand is doing? I ask, because I work in Healthcare IT, i.e. the stone ages. Another reason I scoff at the pipe dreams of Healthcare reform based on IT pipe dreams: big corporation X commonly has a PACS system that in no way interfaces well with corporation X's RIS system. Developed in completely different silos. Only the brand name connects them.

lumberjim 07-24-2009 02:47 PM

I like chrome, but it gets AFU with the tabs....seems like they want to come loose and run around willy nilly. also, i can't find the browsing history drop down like firefox has

mbpark 07-24-2009 02:58 PM

Flint,

I suppose you are mentioning GE?

I work in Healthcare IT too, however, Google actually, at least on the surface, has the integration between their browser and their applications because the browser is used, in part, to sell Google Apps and their other applications that rely heavily on JavaScript. It would not be good for them to "sell" a browser that doesn't work with their own apps.

At least GE will do the integration for you, and will gladly charge you a lot of money for it. Consumers are much more picky than hospitals :).

TheMercenary 07-25-2009 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbpark (Post 583744)
Consumers are much more picky than hospitals :).

Ain't that the damm truth.

TheMercenary 07-25-2009 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveDallas (Post 583564)
What browser are you using?

I thought it was IE7 but maybe it is 6. I heard so many buggy things about IE8 I just refused to update to it.

Does anyone know, are most of the IE8 issues resolved? Should I go to it?

Any drawback about about switching to Firefox? do I loose any functions?

Undertoad 07-25-2009 10:14 AM

There is no reason not to switch. Firefox is superior.

Cloud 07-25-2009 10:16 AM

Firefox FTW.

TheMercenary 07-25-2009 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 583901)
There is no reason not to switch. Firefox is superior.

I think I may try to go for it. Can I just save all my favorites so I don't loose my links?

Undertoad 07-25-2009 10:43 AM

Yup, Firefox will import all bookmarks/favorites. Don't know about cookies and passwords.

TheMercenary 07-25-2009 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 583921)
Yup, Firefox will import all bookmarks/favorites. Don't know about cookies and passwords.

How about disk space on the HD? more, less, or about the same?

Undertoad 07-25-2009 11:54 AM

Less. Its hard disk footprint is tiny compared to IE.

xoxoxoBruce 07-25-2009 12:05 PM

How many times a week do you have to update it?

Undertoad 07-25-2009 12:11 PM

Maybe once a month?

I consider that a good thing, as there are updates for just about every major security breach. That's how it should be. IE6 went three years before MS decided to upgrade. As a result, for a long time, the biggest reason to move to Firefox was security problems in IE6.

mbpark 07-25-2009 01:25 PM

The scary part is that IE6 will receive security updates until 2014 due to the fact that IE6 SP3 was included in Windows XP Service Pack 3, and most other browsers, including Firefox 3.x, won't.

Undertoad 07-25-2009 01:32 PM

"Automatically check for updates" is the default setting in Firefox... that's probably just about as effective as Windows Update.

Besides, if people are still running a 2003-style interface in 2014, that will be terribly sad. Hopefully Windows 7 will be an acceptable platform...

TheMercenary 07-25-2009 01:41 PM

So UT, are you a Windows supporter or an Mac supporter? Why one over the other?

I have seriously considered changing to MAC for my next laptop. If nothing else because of the lack of viruses being written to attack them, not that they are immune, just significantly less.

mbpark 07-25-2009 02:34 PM

UT,

There are people still running Mac OS 8.5 and OS 9 for jobs they need. There still will be people running it for embedded control apps or healthcare IT in 2014, specifically because the cost of certifying certain apps for FDA compliance is ridiculously expensive when you change a component like a browser.

I hope that the only IE6 that I see running by then will be Windows Server 2003 R2 with its own version of IE6 running in Citrix to support those apps :).

Flint 07-25-2009 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbpark (Post 583744)
Flint,

I suppose you are mentioning GE?

What? :::nervous chuckle::: Of course, I would never disparage the meatball :::looks over my shoulder:::
Quote:

Originally Posted by mbpark (Post 583744)
At least GE will do the integration for you, and will gladly charge you a lot of money for it.

Don't be ridiculous, my dear man! The DICOM and HL7 "standards" are here to make integration worries a thing of the past!

mbpark 07-25-2009 09:52 PM

We did it
 
Flint,

We have our systems integrated. It cost us nearly 7 figures and a custom e*Gate implementation maintained by 2 full-time staff, plus additional professional services work from GE, but we did it.

I spent yesterday hearing about "McKesson's implementation of the 835". There's a reason why SeeBeyond/Sun/Oracle gets a lot of money from us every year, and it's because every vendor implements standards their own way, and we have staff that does nothing but maintain the message translations.

Don't even start me on HL7 XML :).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint (Post 584035)
What? :::nervous chuckle::: Of course, I would never disparage the meatball :::looks over my shoulder:::
Don't be ridiculous, my dear man! The DICOM and HL7 "standards" are here to make integration worries a thing of the past!


Undertoad 07-25-2009 10:38 PM

There is no real problem choosing either Mac or PC, except that more games are written to the PC platform. Mac is particularly well-suited to the laptop platform where there aren't many hardware upgrades and such. The latest Mac displays are beautiful.

xoxoxoBruce 07-26-2009 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbpark (Post 583973)
The scary part is that IE6 will receive security updates until 2014 due to the fact that IE6 SP3 was included in Windows XP Service Pack 3,~snip

I had changed to IE-7, and when I upgraded to Service Pack 3, it didn't change it back to 6. Should it have? Not that I wanted it to, just wondering if Service Pack 3 installed properly


Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 583977)
"Automatically check for updates" is the default setting in Firefox... that's probably just about as effective as Windows Update.

If this is open source, where everybody can have their hand in the pot, how do you get updates automatically? Is there somebody running the show?

TheMercenary 07-26-2009 08:41 PM

I have one computer that refuses to update to the SP3. And I have no idea why. It goes through the whole down load and then at the very last sec, no can load. I need to figure it out since it is our mainframe puter for the house. The various laptops all have their problems, we except for the kids MAC's.

ZenGum 07-27-2009 03:55 AM

:firefox:

Undertoad 07-27-2009 07:37 AM

Firefox is managed by the Mozilla Foundation, a non-profit organization.

Beest 07-27-2009 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 583977)
Besides, if people are still running a 2003-style interface in 2014, that will be terribly sad. Hopefully Windows 7 will be an acceptable platform...

My SEM runs windows 98 (2nd ed) on a 233MHz PC, I have upgraded the EDX from NT to 2000. other equipment runs on 98 and can't be 'upgraded'.

In fact it is terribly sad, one of the drivers for replacing a $100K piece of scientific apparatus is that the $500 PC can't be upgraded to the current security protocols. :mad:

Flint 10-22-2009 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbpark (Post 583744)
Flint,

I suppose you are mentioning GE?

May I ask you a question about your GE implementation?
I'm reluctant to mention this on the Aunt Minnie PACS board, for fear of sparking yet another GE-bashing thread.

Have you ever rebuilt your Centricity workstations yourself, i.e. declined to use GE's workstation image? And, if so, have you been able to navigate through the kludge that is GE Centricity and make them actually work? Also, when not using GE's image, does GE support treat you as if you are on your own (as I suspect they might)?

Thanks,
--Flint

mbpark 10-22-2009 08:11 PM

Centricity, Viewpoint, and images
 
Flint,

Not only have we done it, we use it on Citrix XenApp.

GE supports us, even on our own images.

We run our own images for Centricity, a customized Centricity Web (we SSL-enabled it and turned off integrated authentication so our docs can use it without having to log into the PCs under a Windows session), our own images for GE Viewpoint, and Intel NIC cards in our forthcoming Imagecast RIS servers (we told GE that we wanted Intel cards because Broadcom cards have way too many issues, and they agreed after we gave them the HP ticket # I opened up).

The only thing we don't customize are our GE Imagecast PACS servers and our hardware configs for them. Everything we do is by the book with GE on those, down to the switches.

Considering I had GE engineers on the phone debugging issues with Viewpoint on our image and our workstations (Dell Optiplex 760) with our team, I think that the same courtesy extends to Centricity. I got approval to SSL-enable Centricity Web from them.

I think they're a great company when they send out the good engineers, like every other vendor.

At this point, if GE reads this post, they know EXACTLY who I am :).


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