Westboro Baptist church picket schedule
 

If you don't know who they are, then count your lucky stars. This "Christian church" is pathetic and disgusting. I've been working to ignore them, but that is probably not the right action to take. With people like these tho, with their heads so far up their leader's ass, there is probably no right course of action.
Anyway this little article in the Dailybeast reminded me of Westboro Baptist church.
LINK

So then I did some goofing off and found the picket schedule for Westboro Baptist Church. It might be interesting to keep an eye on where they are/will be, if they're near you might want to attend their demonstrations personally. I know I would love to. They will be in San Antonio 8/7-8/9, but I can't get there.
Here's the link to the picket schedule:
http://www.godhatesfags.com/schedule.html
and one of their websites:
http://www.godhatesfags.com/

Don't worry there are more sites, God doesn't just hate fags.

Of special note they will be protesting the memorial of Pfc. Matthew W. Wilson Aug 19 in Arlington Virginia. A specially vile and disgusting thing to do in my opinion. Link to that:
http://www.godhatesfags.com/written/...W-Wilson-g.pdf

Yep, they are the reason one of the organizations I am involved in came to be.

http://www.patriotguard.org/OurHisto...5/Default.aspx

Hey, saw something on my local news about the Patriot Guards yesterday.

Are these the bunch of inbreeds that were picketing war dead funerals I saw something on the UK news about them a while ago.
fuckwits the lot of them

The picket schedule may provide good clues, but the last time I used it they didn't show up.

I never figured out why they propagandized the coming event and never showed. Curiouser and curiouser.................?

Fred Phelps and his clan are an oozing chancre on the infected bum of Topeka and the entire Midwest. These people are going to be so shocked when they stand before their God, expecting their reward, and end up roasting on the spit of some flaming demon cocks rammed up their bigoted, twisted, assholes.

Ptui. I spit on scum.

Nice idea, 'spode. Mine is less dramatic, but reasonably satisfying. A life spent in the pursuit of paradise simpy snuffed out in a cold hard grave. Oh dear, never mind.

I hope they choke on their own hate.
Surely this has to be a case of Phelps protesting too much - I mean, really. How can homosexuality be accorded as such a major sin unless someone finds it very, very tempting indeed?

Here is some child abuse for you:

I'm going to vomit. :(

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What truly sickens me is that people take that crazy, fucked up way of thinking and apply it to ALL Christians, and that's unfair.

There are those of us Christians who I guess would be considered "moderate", that believe that what you do with your life and sexuality is your business.

When I stand in front of my Creator, no one will be standing with me, and I will be judged on my actions, held responsible for my choices. I believe every person will do that. To me, that is enough. I don't get to agree or disagree with your choice because it's just that: your choice. Who am I to change you??

It is not for me to judge anyone else, and it's not for any of these fucks to judge anyone else, either.

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Trouble is, OC - the most vocal homophobes are - or call themselves - Christian.
It gives them a moral high ground to spread the agent orange of their hate from.
And sadly, it's based on far less evidence in the Bible than many things which are disregarded by mainstream Christianity.

I honestly believe I can see all sides of it, in that I was brought up Catholic and genuinely believed in God, and that homosexuality was a sin, a symptom of degeneracy, a sickness that people needed to be cured from. My father, who I adore, who is the man that every man needs to measure up to in my lief, is homophobic. The closest male friend I had, admitted to knee-jerk homophobia. He was quintessetially liberal - his brother was gay and his best (male) friend was gay. He didn't hate gay men, but had an intrinsic revulsion for man-on-man action which he strove to overcome in order to be fair.

I don't judge people on anything other than their hate.
I have no religious belief at all now. It bothers me that Chritians and Muslims hold such sway in political opinion in this country. No offence intended but being a non-believer it pisses me off that I'm ruled by someone else's magic book. I know it's worse (by my reckoning) in America.

Onyx, I applaud your "judge not lest you be judged" attitude. I know the Cellar is no place to be spouting anti-gay rhetoric, but I am always relieved to meet Christ-emulating Christians. There are too many of the other sort out there imho. And without being a 'basher - I have met them. I just happen to live with two who aren't. Just wish I could get Dads to change his mind on teh ghey issue.

I agree. It's just one of those things I would change if I was "Queen for a Day". (Remember that thread?)

It also makes it hard to debate any issue, because as soon as you identify yourself as a Christian, many people automatically dismiss you as homophobic, ignorant, or silly or just plain stupid. And I'm none of those things. Once again, more knee-jerk reaction at work.

Well thanks. :)

I do a really sucky job most of the time, but I'm really trying, and that's the part that counts.

Not much I can say that you prolly haven't. I asked a 'phobic friend of mine if she would be spewing all the hate from her mouth if Jesus was standing right here in front of her and she was appalled. "Of course not!"..... I said, "Well then you've missed the whole point of Christianity."

She didn't get it.

Many men have a visceral anti-gay reaction to man sex. One of the reasons may be that they know in their hearts that they could enjoy at least being on the receiving end of some man sex. But that is taboo, so it bothers them.

Back many years ago, when I was at Yale Divinity School, one of my friends was totally opposed to oral sex. He said that he would kick a woman out of bed if she tried something like that on him. Clearly, he had some problems. Oddly enough, his name was Claude Peters, but I will let that one go.

The thing is that the conservative, particularly Catholic, teachings on sex are just flat ignored by the overwhelming majority. The number of couples who are virgins when they get married for the first time is statistically insignificant. Masturbation, accouding to the Pope, is "a seriously disordered act." Yet it is a universal practice. Just about the only thing that some people pay attention to is the prohibition on homosexuality. But it is part and parcel of archaic nonsense on sex and sexuality that goes back to a patriarchial society. Such ideas are simply not rational.

Fortunately, some churches, such as the Episcopal Church in America, have taken a decent stance, and it has cost some members. But that church is doing well, really. The local parish to which I go has a Lesbian priest as the rector. Everybody seems to get along OK.

The proper thing that the church should do is to deal with the new ideas about sexuality by developing a moral theology on the topic. In an age of sexual freedom, what are the proper standards for behavior? I don't mean a set of fixed rules, but just because we have freedom it does not follow that any behavior is OK.

For example, be realistic. I told my daughter that the first person she had sex with was probably not going to be the only one, and that it was likely that she have several romances before she found the one she wanted to be with permanantly. Right now she is on guy #3 (well, that I know of), and it looks like this is going to last.

I was at an Episcopal Church in Houston in the 1980's, and about 1/3 of the congregation was gay. Surely the rector knew, but he acted, and preached as if everybody was straight. Not actually much of a help to the gay guys.

Oh gawd, the "I'm a good Christian angle." If half the people who spouted that lived by it, the world might be a nicer place. Mostly it's a place to hide when you can't deal with the fact that you're a fucked up human being like everybody else.

Absolutely! :)

really? I always thought that people who have some religious beliefs acknowledge they are just as fucked up as everyone else, but the difference is in how they try to make themselves better, ie what role model to follow.

I definitely do not class all Christians with Phelps and his latent homosexuality. I have a number of very reasonable, tolerant Christian friends who seem to actually understand their own dogma, instead of fanatically reinterpreting it for fun and profit.

Not people as in you, Patrick, but people as in "ignorant asshats".

*hug* I've missed you.

I just watched Bill Maher's Religulous. Growin up in a deeply-rooted Christian family and region, I found alot of his points/questions reflected my own problems with Christianity/religion in general. He doesn't give you his own explanation for "it all," just pointing out the discrepancies in other explanations. Its probably not a movie for those who're rooted in their beliefs. Its target audience seemed to be people who're already on the anti- or non-religious side. If you're a Christian, don't worry, he doesn't just pick on you.


OC, keep in mind that major cults and organizations like the Westboro baptist church call themselves "true christians" or the "good type of christian." Evil usually doesn't believe its evil.

Unless you are "Dr. Evil"....

http://www.canpages.ca/blog/wp-conte...12/dr-evil.jpg

An article in my local news paper said these haters think America is an immoral country. They say this but yet want to be protected under our constitutional rights while they are protesting at the funerals of our fallen soldiers and West Virginia coal miners. They don't like the price of their freedom they should go somewhere else. They can kiss my royal red American ass and get out of country. If the don't like it, tough. I have freedom of speech too.

That's not a viable solution. By their reckoning, every country on Earth is immoral. :haha:

Wait, they are protesting the deaths of COAL MINERS now? WTF?

What is their beef with coal mining? Surely God doesn't hate miners? Or was the Bible revised since I last read it?

No, they are not protesting the death of coal miners, they are cheering the deaths, saying it's punishment for being a bad country.

So if one their own dies, do they cheer that death too? If any of us is guilty by association so would any of them. :haha:

They're not guilty because they're out there fighting those evil faggots that have ruined the country.:rolleyes:
Plus they're truly good Americans, because they're making money on it too.

Some good counter-protesting

http://venganza.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/20.jpg

http://venganza.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/22b.jpg

more here:
http://www.venganza.org/2010/03/26/u...unter-protest/

and here:
http://www.dailygamecock.com/news/we...lity-1.1278205

Look what he (Phelps) did to Mr. Snyder when he protested his dead sons funeral (soldier):
http://www.kansas.com/2010/03/09/121...go-before.html

The court actually ordered Snyder to pay Phelps! :mad2:

Look at the court findings:
http://open.salon.com/blog/luluandph..._to_the_rescue

Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church have the absolute right to say what they want when they want to say it.

That said, they are assholes, and are going to be really unpleasantly surprised when they meet their God, who is, IMHO, extremely unlikely to be amused by their protests.

God doesn't hate sinners, he hates sin. He's the final Judge of us all, whether you believe or not. Guys like Phelps are chasing people away from God, and I don't think God will be happy with anyone who does that.

I think a few well placed tactical nukes would solve this issue.

Certainly the world would be a better place if many of the people who profess to be Christians would actually live up to the spiritual principles involved. Certainly for fundamentalists of all sorts it is indeed a place to hide. But don't paint all Christians with the same tar and feathers. Many Christians do their best to live up to the teachings of their faith. Just because some fail badly doesn't mean they all do.

Those wacky Westboro Christians are at it again, this time planning to target Elizabeth Edwards' funeral. What, now they hate people who die from cancer? :confused:

Lovely folks. :headshake

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...uneral/?hpt=T2

but it was breast cancer. That makes it naughty.

Well, you see, humans are suckers for anecdotal evidence. When every single "God person" you know is some kind of passive agressive psycopath, living in a make-believe world where they have no accountability for their actions, and simultaneously (to the height of hypocrisy) they constantly spew a barrage of hateful, unsolicited advice directed with extreme malice towards anyone who doesn't live up to their ever-shifting standards (even other Christians who aren't "doing it right" apparently) but keep in mind this is all done "in love" and because "God put this on their heart" and other bullshit statements which are designed, again, to absolve them of all responsibility and somehow, in their mind, make their "crazy world" rules apply to everybody. So, yeah, when that happens, it gives you a bad opinion of crazy God people. Again, anecdotal, but very convincing.

Sorry, disregard that. I know that some people get non-crazy value from the whole religion thing. I don't understand it, and to be honest it's all semantics to me. I do believe in a kind of God. A very different kind of God than that which I ever see bing discussed. I believe that one tru thing can be said: people who feel like they have to talk about God this God that all the time, they are probably using God as an excuse for their own bullcrap.

Agreed.

Now have a blessed damn day. ;)

God doesn't like rain!

I don't know why I find this so funny, I just do.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/11/edw...ex.html?hpt=C1

And as they stood there in the rain, they said to themselves "Just remember why we're doing this!"



"Wait...why the ƒuck ARE we doing this?!"

So God could piss down on them for even thinking about it?

Westboro Baptist Church To Picket Funerals Of Arizona Shooting Victims

(personal comments deleted so that I don't get a visit from the authorities.)

At what point do people go from being attention whores to just plain whores?

My personal favorite is whenever someone who some of these wankers likes dies or is killed early, it's always "G-d called him/her to his side". When someone they disapprove of dies, it's "G-d's judgment". How can they tell the difference? Do they have access to G-d's daily planner?

They have a hot line to the Pope..... wait, they're not Catholic so I guess that wouldn't help them.

Right, they don't bother with the pope, they go right to the top... oooorrr, just make up stupid shit as they go along.:rolleyes:

The WBC. Reminding us that any religion can produce a bunch of #$%&ing nutjobs.

WBC. *sigh* Why do we give them an audience? All publicity is good publicity as far as they are concerned, so we have only ourselves to blame. Attention hos without attention are like the trees falling in the forest.

We need to stop reposting and reporting on their drivel. I guess though, attention hos begat attention hos. Like the witnesses to horrible accidents who can't wait to share the gory details with the TV reporters. Ugh. I hate the rubber-neckers and gawkers at road accidents too, who turn one tragic event into a whole shitfest throught their morbid fascination and inability to see the big picture and their part in it.

/indangerofrantingwayofftopicwillshutupnow