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TGRR 09-24-2009 04:57 PM

Attention, Shawnee:
 
While playing fuckaround with Lumberjim, I said something about you that I really shouldn't have said. Seeing as how the insult was public, the apology should be public as well. The "knob" comment was a reference to cheerleading, not the actual sexual act...though looking at what I wrote, I can see how you would not take it in the way that I meant it. Still, neither meaning was warranted, and I was definitely over the line, and I sincerely apologize.

I do not, of course, expect this to change your opinion of me, or somehow fix the hurt feelings and anger you expressed in the "red alert" thread, but you have my apology all the same.

Clodfobble 09-24-2009 05:13 PM

How about me, Mr. Reconciliation? Am I still offering sexual favors to lumberjim for booting you out of chat, or was that a mistake too? For the record, I asked that you be kicked out because I was having a lovely evening with my friends, something I don't get to do often, and you strut in clearly looking for a shit-stirring. Chat is for friends. Make some friends here, and you may find it a more pleasant experience.

TheMercenary 09-24-2009 05:16 PM

http://www.cellar.org/showpost.php?p...9&postcount=69

TGRR 09-24-2009 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 596988)
How about me, Mr. Reconciliation? Am I still offering sexual favors to lumberjim for booting you out of chat, or was that a mistake too? For the record, I asked that you be kicked out because I was having a lovely evening with my friends, something I don't get to do often, and you strut in clearly looking for a shit-stirring. Chat is for friends. Make some friends here, and you may find it a more pleasant experience.

I didn't say anything about you offering sexual favors, did I? The way I remember it, I stated that Jim was acting in a "White Knight" fashion with that expectation...obviously hyperbole, and no mention of YOUR motivations was stated or implied.

All I know is that I replied to something Jim said about an old fight between he and Tiki, and you started yelling for me to be banned. I am sure Jim can access the chatlogs to demonstrate this, should it prove to be necessary.

TGRR 09-24-2009 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 596995)

Yes, that is the subject I am apologizing to Shawnee about. Your point?

Clodfobble 09-24-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR
I didn't say anything about you offering sexual favors, did I? The way I remember it, I stated that Jim was acting in a "White Knight" fashion with that expectation...obviously hyperbole, and no mention of YOUR motivations was stated or implied.

Right.

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Originally Posted by TGRR
Did you impress Clodfobble with your enormous epenis?

I mean, I watched you have a flash of integrity "meh", etc, then I was banned. So, did your caving in get you some epussy?

Thing is, I believe you honestly don't remember saying or implying it. Because you're fundamentally not interested in other people, or making friends. Which is precisely why you don't belong in chat.

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Originally Posted by TGRR
All I know is that I replied to something Jim said about an old fight between he and Tiki, and you started yelling for me to be banned. I am sure Jim can access the chatlogs to demonstrate this, should it prove to be necessary.

Three posts in, you were aggressively discussing "double standards." You were looking for a fight. There was no fight going on before you entered. There was not one after you were kicked out. I am happy with this chain of events.

TGRR 09-24-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 597000)
Right.



Thing is, I believe you honestly don't remember saying or implying it. Because you're fundamentally not interested in other people, or making friends. Which is precisely why you don't belong in chat.

Actually, it's because I'm typically fucked up on weird drugs. Of course, I'm an asshole when I'm not on the pills, so that's an excuse for the memory issue, not the behavior.

Now, that WAS directed at Jim, but you WERE involved, so yes, I do owe you an apology, so I do apologize.

TGRR 09-24-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 597000)
Three posts in, you were aggressively discussing "double standards." You were looking for a fight. There was no fight going on before you entered. There was not one after you were kicked out. I am happy with this chain of events.

Actually, no, I showed up to say hi to Zip, and Jim jumped me over some old shit in which I was expected to take responsibility for someone else's actions. It's in the logs.

Clodfobble 09-24-2009 05:33 PM

Zip wasn't in chat last night. So I guess you shouldn't mind that you didn't get to hang around then.

NiveKRayne 09-24-2009 06:50 PM

Where's my fucking apology you bastard?! I recognized your handle when I happened upon the chat on this site... Are you going to trash this like you did to my board??? I mean who the hell fucks with a miscarriage support board?! WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?!!!!!! YOU FUCKING PIG!!! GET CANCER AND DIE!!

jinx 09-24-2009 07:02 PM

Tiggr was already logged into chat when Jim and I got there last night. Didn't mention zippy, but was annoyed that C-man didn't take the bait of his obama troll thread. He also seemed genuinely surprised that UT didn't want to be his BFF.

Apparently it's been slow over at PD because a whole bunch of them popped in.

NiveKRayne 09-24-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 597011)
Tiggr was already logged into chat when Jim and I got there last night. Didn't mention zippy, but was annoyed that C-man didn't take the bait of his obama troll thread. He also seemed genuinely surprised that UT didn't want to be his BFF.

Apparently it's been slow over at PD because a whole bunch of them popped in.

He's a bastard. I hate him.

TGRR 09-24-2009 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 597011)
Tiggr was already logged into chat when Jim and I got there last night. Didn't mention zippy, but was annoyed that C-man didn't take the bait of his obama troll thread. He also seemed genuinely surprised that UT didn't want to be his BFF.

Apparently it's been slow over at PD because a whole bunch of them popped in.


Troll thread? Troll by virtue of my having posted it, I presume?

Idemosaka 09-24-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NiveKRayne (Post 597012)
He's a bastard. I hate him.

Back in your box.

TGRR 09-24-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Idemosaka (Post 597033)
Back in your box.

Good God.

TheMercenary 09-25-2009 08:29 AM

This should keep things in perspective:

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=19351&page=8

Idemosaka 09-25-2009 04:37 PM

You mean that infighting from last night? That shit was nasty.

I mean, I certainly got it out of context, but still. That room was filled with hatebad.

Crimson Ghost 09-25-2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NiveKRayne (Post 597012)
He's a bastard. I hate him.

I'd like to be the first to welcome our newest Dweller, Marisa Tomei.

/obscure...

regular.joe 09-26-2009 01:43 AM

Kids, you better start playing nice or I will turn this thread right around and go home!

richlevy 09-26-2009 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 596978)
While playing fuckaround with Lumberjim

Is that anything like reacharound?

TGRR 09-26-2009 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy (Post 597363)
Is that anything like reacharound?

Maybe.

Crimson Ghost 09-26-2009 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy (Post 597363)
Is that anything like reacharound?

Remember kids, a reacharound is different from a Rusty Trombone, which is completely different from a Dirty Sanchez.

lumberjim 09-26-2009 08:03 PM

blowgie

jinx 09-26-2009 08:07 PM

Donkey punch?

TGRR 09-27-2009 02:39 PM

Apology withdrawn. I can't justify apologizing to racists.

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/r...RR/cellar1.jpg

Clodfobble 09-27-2009 02:50 PM

Surely your experiences on your own board would lead you to the conclusion that it's hard for an outsider to understand someone's sense of humor without getting to know them first?

TGRR 09-27-2009 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 597489)
Surely your experiences on your own board would lead you to the conclusion that it's hard for an outsider to understand someone's sense of humor without getting to know them first?

Dunno. It's all too much for a poor "darkie" like myself. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go put on my gaudy clothes and get out on the porch with my banjo. We're happier amongst our own kind, you know, and it's bad for us to get airs.

40 acres and a mule. Jesus H Christ.

Clodfobble 09-27-2009 03:04 PM

Right dude. And joking about miscarriages is funny too. Your superior moral position is clear, no doubt.

Sundae 09-27-2009 03:06 PM

:headshake Those fuzzy wuzzies
They don't like it up em!

TGRR 09-27-2009 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 597494)
Right dude. And joking about miscarriages is funny too. Your superior moral position is clear, no doubt.

I did nothing of the kind.

Would you please make an effort to be more honest?

Clodfobble 09-27-2009 03:23 PM

No, what you didn't do was actually go to a miscarriage support board and harass them. What you did do was laugh amiably about the idea that your friends would act as if you had, as a joke at your expense. You found their joke about miscarriages funny and reveled in it; ergo you joked about miscarriages.

Which, for the record, I don't have a problem with in this specific case. I also don't have a problem with lumberjim's indirect reference to making fun of black people without actually making fun of real black people.

Face it, you don't have a leg to stand on in this argument--oooh, wait, you're not paraplegic are you? :thepain:

TGRR 09-27-2009 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 597500)
No, what you didn't do was actually go to a miscarriage support board and harass them. What you did do was laugh amiably about the idea that your friends would act as if you had, as a joke at your expense.

So, what am I going to do, Clodfobble? Rag two of my friends out for the sake of a bunch of people who made up their minds to hate us a full year ago? In public? For YOU?

LAWL.

Yeah, good luck with that. After the last few days - and your lack of class earlier in this thread - I wouldn't piss down your neck if your heart was on fire. This racism hilarity is funnier than hell, though, and the fact that you're defending them for this behavior by drawing false equivalences just makes it funnier.

TGRR 09-27-2009 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 597500)
Which, for the record, I don't have a problem with in this specific case. I also don't have a problem with lumberjim's indirect reference to making fun of black people without actually making fun of real black people.

As opposed to fake Black people? Or are you saying that Blacks aren't real people? Not sure what you're getting at, there.

DanaC 09-27-2009 04:31 PM

Actually, I think the butt of the joke was segregationists, not black people.

TGRR 09-27-2009 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 597508)
Actually, I think the butt of the joke was segregationists, not black people.

Actually, I think the butt was "darkies", as the segregation of the rooms is considered by the three of them to be a good thing.

DanaC 09-27-2009 04:42 PM

Struck me as an ironic comment by Monnie, which Jim responded to by taking on the persona of a southern segregationist.

Mind you, Monnie's a Brit. We do irony.

Clodfobble 09-27-2009 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR
After the last few days - and your lack of class earlier in this thread

[citation needed]

TGRR 09-27-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 597513)
[citation needed]

You demanded an apology. I proffered one. You ignored it.

You have an astounding lack of class, Clodfobble. You should do something about that.

Undertoad 09-27-2009 04:50 PM

You guys are not trying hard enough to ignore Rog.

TGRR 09-27-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 597515)
You guys are not trying hard enough to ignore Rog.

Clodfobble lacks the self-discipline. Shows a lack of character, which is consistent with her classless behavior earlier in the thread.

Undertoad 09-27-2009 04:56 PM

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So, what am I going to do, Clodfobble? Rag two of my friends out for the sake of a bunch of people who made up their minds to hate us a full year ago? In public? For YOU?
You claimed to desire vengeance on them. You have not been playing very well.

Clodfobble 09-27-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR
You demanded an apology. I proffered one. You ignored it.


Honestly, I didn't realize it needed acknowledgement--I read it, and accepted it. I'm sorry that seemed like I was ignoring it. I did appreciate your change of heart.

I would like to point out, however, that most people don't leap all the way to "I wouldn't piss down your neck if your heart was on fire" just because they feel like they've been ignored. You are once again displaying erratic emotional jumps that simply have no basis in what is actually being said. Some of us prefer friendliness over drama.

TGRR 09-27-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 597519)
You claimed to desire vengeance on them. You have not been playing very well.

Sure, and vengeance I will have.

But not for the entertainment of scum like Clodfobble. Not going to air any dirty laundry in front of her or MTP, Monster, Jinx, Jim, Shawnee, etc.

First, it just isn't done. Second, I would hate for any of them to have the satisfaction, given their fucked up behavior. Particularly Jim, MTP, Clodfapper, and Monster.

Clodfobble 09-27-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
You guys are not trying hard enough to ignore Rog.

Sorry about that. I figured I'd give him another chance after I got him booted so quickly from chat the other night. I was hoping there might be a genuine person under the persona.

TGRR 09-27-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 597521)
Honestly, I didn't realize it needed acknowledgement--I read it, and accepted it. I'm sorry that seemed like I was ignoring it. I did appreciate your change of heart.

I would like to point out, however, that most people don't leap all the way to "I wouldn't piss down your neck if your heart was on fire" just because they feel like they've been ignored. You are once again displaying erratic emotional jumps that simply have no basis in what is actually being said. Some of us prefer friendliness over drama.

Naw, I've reached that point because of what happened last year, followed by the insane behavior of certain cellar dwellers this year, topped by the notion you floated that I am responsible for something I never said, and that Jim is not responsible for things he DID say.

Completely unprincipled. So the idea that someone can be acceptably left hanging after they issue an apology comes as no great shock.

TGRR 09-27-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 597524)
I was hoping there might be a genuine person under the persona.

No you weren't. You and a few others here have acted to dehumanize ever PDer you've come across, some of you since the very first time we've met (that psychopath Classicman comes to mind, during the "reverse Safari" last year).

Clodfobble 09-27-2009 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR
Completely unprincipled. So the idea that someone can be acceptably left hanging after they issue an apology comes as no great shock.

I can only assume you are equally incensed that Shawnee123 hasn't entered the thread to officially accept her apology either.

TGRR 09-27-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 597528)
I can only assume you are equally incensed that Shawnee123 hasn't entered the thread to officially accept her apology either.

I no longer view Shawnee as a human being, given her level of participation in the "darkie"/segregation business.

However, she had not solicited an apology from me, and was under no obligation, morally or otherwise, to respond. I would have, in her shoes, but it's not the same as demanding an apology with the intent to humiliate, as you seem to have.

morethanpretty 09-27-2009 06:01 PM

Soylent green is made of people.

TGRR 09-27-2009 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty (Post 597547)
Soylent green is made of people.

Well, it's a good thing the PDers aren't people then.

But we "smell funny".

DanaC 09-27-2009 06:15 PM

Things must be very dull at PD Towers for you guys to be this interested in fucking wid us.

TGRR 09-27-2009 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 597561)
Things must be very dull at PD Towers for you guys to be this interested in fucking wid us.

Actually, this is only about 10% of us. The other 90% of PD couldn't give a shit less about this.

DanaC 09-27-2009 06:21 PM

'you guys' = the people who are here from PD - not the whole of PD.

Idemosaka 09-27-2009 06:30 PM

I can't really be arsed when new people screw up your perfect equilibrium by virtue of bring new people. Most of you guys don't even bother talking to us in the first place, so what difference does it make? New people join, they get their own room, you guys continue doing whatever you were doing in another public room.

I'd simply question why this board itself is public, or open to new registration, in the first place.

Undertoad 09-27-2009 06:30 PM

'us guys' = the people who visited PD at any time - not even 5% of Cellar.

Idemosaka 09-27-2009 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 597571)
'us guys' = the people who visited PD at any time - not even 5% of Cellar.

Point?

Undertoad 09-27-2009 06:38 PM

Rog threatened a PD Army denial-of-service attack against the entire Cellar during a misunderstanding over five Cellar users' participation at PD and his participation at the Cellar. (No Cellar folks returned the threat, nor would we I imagine.)

So when he complains "oh but that wasn't all of us" one can only assume he hasn't thought through the bigger picture. It's "all of us" when he wants it to be, even though it's rarely "all of us" in any case.

TGRR 09-27-2009 06:38 PM

This is an interesting spiral we're in, now. Undertoad has stated that IP fuckery is fair game, so we are doing the same for every member of the Cellar that has ever posted at PD or #discord. Both "sides" have technically competent people and/or an unlimited supply of proxies. Both sides have the vast majority of their boards uninterested in the squabble, but likely to get splashed with shit anyway.

Ought to be good for a laugh, anyway.

TGRR 09-27-2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 597577)
Rog threatened a PD Army denial-of-service attack

Actually, I threatened to spam the fuck out of the place. To be precise.

Undertoad 09-27-2009 06:42 PM

Your actual words were "You'd have to reset the board."

Is it all of us now?


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