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SamIam 11-08-2009 04:14 PM

SHIT!
 
I just lost my purse with all my ID, my bankcard, friends' phone numbers and $200.00 in cash. I don't normally carry rhat mount of cash, but I had to get my prescriptions and I only have a saving account - not checking. I have looked everywhere. Every likely place and every unlikely place. I've called to see if I left it at a friend's house but to no avail. GODDAMN! I may be able to get sample meds through my doctor. I think my kitty can last the month if I give her smaller portions. I am so pissed off I could cry. I hope whoever found my purse has a good time shooting amphetamines.

Thanks for letting me vent. :mad:

Clodfobble 11-08-2009 04:19 PM

Sorry, Sam. :(

DanaC 11-08-2009 05:01 PM

Shit Sam. That sucks:(


Maybe we can do a Cellar whipround. I don't much like the idea of you going without meds. And I sure don't like the idea of your kitty going on short rations:P

[eta] I know that you were just venting. But still.

monster 11-08-2009 05:04 PM

Did you see if someone tried to use your bankcard?

wolf 11-08-2009 05:11 PM

Bummer, sorry to hear about this.

I suppose that by now you've completely retraced your steps? More importantly, did you check in the refrigerator, or in the cupboard, next to the cereal boxes?

Also, you don't have to be Catholic to ask Saint Anthony for help ... "Saint Anthony, Saint Anthony, please come around, something is lost and cannot be found."

monster 11-08-2009 05:18 PM

You did also call the police to see if it had been turned in, right? and did you check the trashcans on your route? you might at least recover the bankcard and numbers if not the cash

skysidhe 11-08-2009 05:42 PM

Is it Sunday where you are?
Where have you been today?
Did you have your purse today?
When did you get the withdraw?
Where have you been since then?
When were you picking up your meds?
When was the last time you saw your purse?
What were you doing?
Is your purse underneath a pile of laundry?
Are your car keys lost too? or in your purse?

My mom loses things so these kind of questions help although now that I see them written out they seem annoying.

ps. Why the reference to amphetamine use if someone found it?

Elspode 11-08-2009 06:32 PM

I believe she was inferring that perhaps a meth head might have pinched it and would be using their ill gotten gains to feed their heads.

skysidhe 11-08-2009 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode (Post 606754)
I believe she was inferring that perhaps a meth head might have pinched it and would be using their ill gotten gains to feed their heads.

Yes I know.

Non meth heads can steal too.

SamIam 11-08-2009 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 606736)
Did you see if someone tried to use your bankcard?

No one has tried to use it as far as I know. Its not like a credit card - it just allows me to draw cash from an ATM or the bank. You have to know the pin and nobody would guess it in a million years. They still have my $200.00, though. And my ID. And my Social Security card. And my proof of medical insurance. Oh, grrrr! I'll get it straightened out eventually (maybe). :headshake

Shit Sam. That sucks


Quote:

Maybe we can do a Cellar whipround. I don't much like the idea of you going without meds. And I sure don't like the idea of your kitty going on short rations:P

[eta] I know that you were just venting. But still
That's a very kind offer, Dana. But I would feel sort of wierd taking you up on it. Maybe if every last thing fails. ;)

Wolf, I have looked in the freezer, in the trash, in the dirty laundry, etc. Nothing. I will be able to contact more people on Monday.

Skysidhe, I'm assuming a junkie had it, because a good citizen would have returned it. Where are the girl scouts when you need them?

BTW, I will be the one holding the card that says "will work for cat food." :(

monster 11-08-2009 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamIam (Post 606769)
No one has tried to use it as far as I know. Its not like a credit card - it just allows me to draw cash from an ATM or the bank.

right, but the bank records attempted use. If someone has tried to use it, you know a malfeant has your purse and can act accordingly.

How big is your purse? How do you normally carry it? What would distract you from realizing it wasn't with you?

I've "seriously" lost my wallet maybe 6 times. Only once was it actually "stolen"/totally gone, and even then, they never used my cards. But sometimes it took a day to track it down. Almost always those occasions have been when my handbag was unusually heavy, so I didn't notice that my wallet wasn't in it.

classicman 11-09-2009 10:21 AM

Look in the bathroom next to the toilet. Just saying - you may have been in a rush and....

Trilby 11-09-2009 10:37 AM

gads that sux! I hate it when that kind of thing happens - puts a person all out of sorts!

SamIam 11-09-2009 03:58 PM

I hate carrying a purse and this is not the first time I have lost one. This is the first time I had $200.00 in it though. I have back-tracked all my steps. The cops don't have it. No one has it. Maybe it was the victim of an alien space probe. :alien2:

If it was the end of the month, it would be quite so bad, but its disaster now. I thank God, I'd already paid my rent and utilities. That's something. I think I'll go curl into a little ball now.

DanaC 11-09-2009 04:02 PM

Ok Sam. But if you run into a brick wall on this and find you're going without meds or your cat is having to live on what it can hunt, then let us know:P

Cloud 11-09-2009 05:42 PM

it all sucks, esp. the cash, but it's the SS card that's worrying me the most--you're not supposed to carry it in your purse!

monster 11-09-2009 07:55 PM

I didn't see that she said that was in there? oh now I see it. yup, that was daft. I guess if you're interviewing for jobs you need it more often than not, though.....

DanaC 11-10-2009 03:40 AM

Can you get a replacement? And also let them know it's gone in case someone tries to use it for nefarious, identity-stealing purposes?

capnhowdy 11-10-2009 06:35 AM

Good luck w/that, Sam. Sorry.

And NEVER carry your SS card with you. EVAH

monster 11-10-2009 06:38 AM

Yes, you can get ten free replacements over your lifetime, i think. I've used one so far....

monster 11-10-2009 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capnhowdy (Post 607195)
And NEVER carry your SS card with you. EVAH

You have to when applying for a job.
many employers insist on seeing the original and they're not going to come to your house.

capnhowdy 11-10-2009 06:47 AM

Point taken. My bad.

Damn it's been a long time since I've applied for a job.....

skysidhe 11-10-2009 07:26 AM

I've never shown my SS card when applying for or getting a job.

I must be on record.:unsure:

classicman 11-10-2009 07:55 AM

nor have I, in fact no one, no one, has ever asked to see it. Drivers license sure. All the time, but never my SSC.

DanaC 11-10-2009 08:09 AM

It's possible they've tightened up the rules in the last few years. I know they have over here. These days, you are supposed to take stuff like a birth certificate and what have you, to prove that you are a resident/citizen or have the right to work in the UK. That's only really been the case in the last 5 years, and it's only become common practice to comply in the last two or three.

skysidhe 11-10-2009 08:55 AM

I think instead of all paperwork, unless applying for government aid, the stiff regulations on acquiring a drivers license or ID card substitutes for all of that.

I could be wrong but I hope we are just as diligent. If not I'm moving in Dana. I could go live in that country area I saw a picture of you in. It's very beautiful.

( sorry I'm drifting )

BigV 11-10-2009 09:57 AM

The social security card establishes the right to work, and some other document is needed to establish identity. I-9

skysidhe 11-10-2009 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 607225)
The social security card establishes the right to work, and some other document is needed to establish identity. I-9

Interesting note:

Under the homeland security Real ID law both will soon be one and the same.

A person cannot now get a drivers license without providing the ss and birth certificate.

xoxoxoBruce 11-10-2009 11:53 AM

Not every time, but I've had to show my original SS card for an employer. It's because a mistake in the SS number, creates a shitload of hassle, for the employer to straighten out later.

If I remember correctly (it's been awhile), my SS card says right on the front, NOT to be used as an ID.

BigV 11-10-2009 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skysidhe (Post 607240)
Interesting note:

Under the homeland security Real ID law both will soon be one and the same.

A person cannot now get a drivers license without providing the ss and birth certificate.

not to be picky... but there is not Real ID law. there may be a proposal, much like.. "obamacare" isn't a law. It's all talk at this point.

furthermore, a national id .. very very doubtful . of course that may merely be wishful thinking on my part.

as for drivers' licensing. That is a state matter. Indeed, I live in a state with an international border and I have have recently gotten an enhanced driver's license. for the purpose of surface travel between washington and canada it is an acceptable proof of citizenship. Not for air travel. and not for travel to other countries. Limited, but more functionality than a driver's license.

faq

xoxoxoBruce 11-10-2009 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 607285)
furthermore, a national id .. very very doubtful . of course that may merely be wishful thinking on my part.

It's called a passport. :lol:

BigV 11-10-2009 01:36 PM

Ah, yes. Of course you are right. I meant in the context of a required identification document. "Please produce your papers!" etc etc.

xoxoxoBruce 11-10-2009 01:41 PM

Yeah, yeah, everyone knows what you were saying/implying. My attempted humor was not opportunistic, not critical. :hug:

Pie 11-10-2009 02:00 PM

Anything requiring a birth certificate gets awful weird for me. I don't have one, not that the US courts recognize.

However I am a US citizen with a passport.

Makes for fun times down at the DMV.

TheMercenary 11-10-2009 02:31 PM

Interesting how many more employers are requiring an I-9.

BigV 11-10-2009 03:13 PM

aren't they all supposed to be concerned with it? it's just as much a crime to employ someone who has no right to work as it is to be employed without the right to work.

monster 11-10-2009 06:43 PM

There are new regulations regarding the I9, I think. we have to do it for all our summer pool employees. This is only my first year as treasurer, but I get the feeling it's fairly newly mandatory.

xoxoxoBruce 11-11-2009 02:15 AM

About 5 years ago, after working there for almost 20 years, I had to come up with my original birth certificate (no Photostats, no duplicates, original with raised seal), because of a change in federal law. :rolleyes:

DanaC 11-11-2009 04:19 AM

Original birth certificate? Well, shit. That'd be me well an'truly farked then.

I think I'm onto my forth or fifth re-issue.

And I lost my National Insurance card within about a year of getting it. Mind you I have never ever needed it. As long as you know your national insurance number, you don't actually need the card.

john bainz 11-11-2009 07:22 AM

Horror... Absolute horror!!!
 
I can feel the horror, damn!
I think most of us know the feeling... Like the whole world got on a train and left without you.

Sorry Sam

Cloud 11-11-2009 09:10 AM

no one has original birth certificates. original birth certificates are kept in the public records; from whence you obtain certified copies; this is the proof you need for a passport, for example

SamIam 11-11-2009 09:33 AM

You can use a copy of your divorce decree, too. Naturally, I have lost mine. My ex-husband aka Mr. Anal is sure to have a copy. I suppose I need to cowboy up and write him for this. Its easier than getting a copy of my birth certificate and cheaper, too. (sigh) I can hear the lecture now. :eyebrow:

monster 11-11-2009 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 607484)
no one has original birth certificates. original birth certificates are kept in the public records; from whence you obtain certified copies; this is the proof you need for a passport, for example

in the US.

Cloud 11-11-2009 10:57 AM

well, yes, just like Social Security cards.

so--you don't have certified copies of documents in the UK? People keep their original birth certificates? What happens if it gets lost or destroyed?

xoxoxoBruce 11-11-2009 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 607484)
no one has original birth certificates. original birth certificates are kept in the public records; from whence you obtain certified copies; this is the proof you need for a passport, for example

I beg to differ. :headshake
What is kept in public records, is the birth record. What is issued to the parents, is the Birth Certificate.

TheMercenary 11-11-2009 11:12 AM

So if you can't find a birth certificate is it possible that you were never born or just that you can't prove you were ever born?

Cloud 11-11-2009 11:21 AM

Bruce, you're splitting hairs, and I don't think you are correct, in any case. The record kept in the county of your birth is the birth certificate, which is why the clerk can certify, on copies, that it is a true and correct copy of the original in its possession. Procedures vary by jurisdiction, of course, and now with scanners, the original submitted to the Clerk may be scanned and then returned, but it certainly used to be that the original document, signed, by the presiding doctor, was held by the county of birth. Parents may, in some cases, have received duplicate originals-- I mean, no copy machines back when I was born, so the original had to be in the public record, or an original.

xoxoxoBruce 11-11-2009 11:22 AM

You can't prove where you were born. Ask the "birthers".

Cloud 11-11-2009 11:34 AM

not with a 10-foot pole.

Actually, this is an interesting question. I record public records all the time, such as deeds, and our local procedure used to be they kept the original document, and you got a photocopy with the Clerk's stamp on it indicating the recording information.

Now, they merely scan the original document and hand it back to you with the stamp on it--you keep the original. So . . . I got to thinking, how can the Clerk certify that they have the "original" in their possession? Their original now is merely a .pdf document. Sometimes technology trips us up in surprising ways.

As for the birth certificate, I'll have to ask my daughters after they have their kids in a few weeks.

Pie 11-11-2009 11:39 AM

I got into a bit of a tizzy when I went to get my MD drivers license (no apostrophe, right? :lol:)

I was born in a foreign country, with a birth certificate that is not well-received by American courts. I am an American citizen, with a passport, SS card, utility bills, et cetera.

The Maryland MVA website clearly stated that naturalized citizens must provide their foreign birth certificate. :worried:

I gave them all the other docs I had, and they didn't even bat an eyelid. No problems. Of course, they've since changed their policies to be much saner: Proof of ID, proof of lawful US residency, proof of SSN and 2 proofs of MD residency. Your passport, your SS card and two utility bills. Done!

What I don't understand is how a birth certificate can be used as proof of ID. Who looks like they did when they were a squalling infant?? :eyebrow:

xoxoxoBruce 11-11-2009 12:03 PM

Sure, it's constantly changing. Back when my grandmother was born, the birth records were kept by the church. For my mother, the town clerk entered it into the town records, when somebody told her it had happened. For me, the doctor signed the form, and the hospital sent it to the town clerk, who in turn issued a birth certificate to my folks, if they ask for it.

Turns out, because we lived in a small town with no hospital, my folks never bothered to go back to the town clerk where I was born, to get a birth certificate. The town clerk where we lived gave my mother a notarized form, when I was 5, so I could go to school. It probably wasn't strictly legal, but in a small town, where everyone knows everyone, it served the purpose. I used that same paper to get my SS card.

Flash forward 50odd years, the feds wouldn't buy that form from the town clerk where we lived, and demanded an original birth certificate from the town clerk where I was born. All I had to do was sign a consent form, and Boeing obtained the original birth certificate for me, satisfied the feds, then mailed it to me. So now I can run for president.:king:



And when I'm king, I'm gonna slap half you fuckers up side the head.

Cloud 11-11-2009 12:09 PM

Parish records, such as baptism and communion are still considered valid records of identification in most places.

My cow orkers tell me I'm overthinking this. What else is new?

monster 11-11-2009 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 607539)
well, yes, just like Social Security cards.

so--you don't have certified copies of documents in the UK? People keep their original birth certificates? What happens if it gets lost or destroyed?

No. Which makes it virtually stinking impossible to do some stuff over here which requires a certified copy. You can get a copy of your birth certificate if you lose the original. But it says copy and the original does not. Fortunately a copy serves just fine..... in the UK, where as here they won't eveb accept the original because it doesn't say "certified copy". Of course it doesn't it's not a fucking copy.

On the UK, they have a regiater, they enter the info twice, they tear off your bit and give it to you. that's your birth certificate. At least they did before it was computerized.

and what Bruce said.

Pie 11-11-2009 01:57 PM

But still, what does some amorphous blob of neoplasm have to do with the upstanding 44-year old asking for a drivers license? And how would you know whether he's pretending to be the right blob?

wolf 11-11-2009 02:01 PM

My old boss (the one who went nuts and stopped coming to work) was born in a displaced persons camp in Germany, following the close of WWII. His birth certificate was issued there. They only had the old forms ... so his is festooned with swastikas.

Used to cause quite the stir when he had to produce it.

Elspode 11-11-2009 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skysidhe (Post 606760)
Yes I know.

Non meth heads can steal too.

Sorry, didn't mean to impugn the responsible, honest, upstanding meth heads out there.

xoxoxoBruce 11-11-2009 02:17 PM

I accept your apology, on behalf of the responsible, honest, upstanding meth heads.:lol2:

DanaC 11-11-2009 02:26 PM

My Dad always had probs with birth certificates. His was lost when he ws a kid. Unfortunately the place where he was born was somewhat disrupted by the troubles in India just prior to partition. It was pretty much impossibloe for him to get another copy.

TheMercenary 11-11-2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf (Post 607643)
My old boss (the one who went nuts and stopped coming to work) was born in a displaced persons camp in Germany, following the close of WWII. His birth certificate was issued there. They only had the old forms ... so his is festooned with swastikas.

Used to cause quite the stir when he had to produce it.

Sounds like a friends wife. She is an white American born in Libya. Her BC is the size of a small poster and all in Arabic. No where is her name written in English.


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