The dark side of wheat - rethinking Celiac
 

Really interesting article...
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It seems pretty obvious, if it bothers you, don't eat it. Is he saying it's like peanut butter, where when one kid is allergic it shouldn't be allowed in town??:confused:

No, he thinks more people have a problem with it than currently recognized.

I've been eating wheat, and drinking milk, my whole life without any problems I'm aware of.
Now this guys says it shouldn't be available to me because it might not be good for me, when it's only apparently a problem for, "small subgroups of our population"?
That's un-American. :p

There's the rub.

Is the article talking about white bread or wheat bread? As we have been told white bread ( refined wheat )is loaded with additives and even some lesser quality breads labeled wheat.

It would be obvious that some peoples systems are reactionary to it and overall not a healthy choice. ( that said I love white bread)

High quality whole grain wheat breads the closest to natural and unrefined as possible would eliminate some diseases?

I convinced myself that I had a dairy intolerance.
When I read the symptoms they seemed to fit me completely.

After a couple of months I saw no difference and went back to dairy. Again - no difference. I am simply someone who has low grade nasal problems as a constant.

The only reason I wish I'd stayed away from it is that I think the dairy industry is pretty cruel, and it does seem odd for humans to consume a foodstuff meant to sustain a baby animal of a difference species.

Did you try to rule out other food intolerances besides dairy? Or perhaps nail down what pollens or molds you might be allergic to? It might not be something you can do anything about after all, but I do think symptoms like that were designed to be a signal from your body that something is wrong.

I remember awhile back you mentioned that when you were a baby, you could not tolerate your mother's breastmilk. Most likely that was actually a reaction to something she was eating. Maybe the food intolerance went away as you got older, or maybe it just became the new "normal" for your body and it stopped fighting back so hard?

Good article Jinx. While I was following the Zone Diet, I rarely ate any wheat products ( or any other 'white foods' for that matter) and I felt great. My body gave me no problems - no headaches, no fatigue, no depression, and no diarrhea. I also didn't get colds or the flu. I am a firm believer that wheat and other grains are not good for us. However, its quite a conundrum, though, because without wheat and corn our civilization would never have expanded as much as it has. Its given us the ability to feed a lot of people.

Well, she was eating what they could get on was rations, plus whatever my grandmother provided from her garden (which was about 4 acres), so who knows?

After I was 6 months, it was sweetened condensed... you know;Then whole cow's milk ever since, and since I don't drink coffee, lots of it.:yum:

I know the major cause of my sneezing and runny nose - sunlight. I have a photic sneeze reflex, and a very sensitive one at that. So I've never looked too hard for other causes. I know dust aggravates it, as does some tree pollen.

I do know that dairy intolerance is real and a misery for some people. But I really was bandwagon hopping when I allied my symptoms to theirs.

No, I didn't know. Nowadays I'd suspect viral marketing for that rhyme.

I always assumed that after 200,000 years of evolution as ominvores, the majority of us would have cleared up issues related to what we can safely eat. While there are still plants that are poisonous, the ones that we cultivate do not contain toxins (with the possible exception of potatoes and tomatoes*). I can understand a genetic aberration, but the idea that something that we have been eating for such a long time is unhealthy seems odd.

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It sort of makes you want to rethink those potato skins.

Omnivores, yes. We've eaten vegetables and fruits for hundreds of thousands of years. But all the cultivated grains we eat today have been around less than 10,000 years.

Holy shit, you know what's really odd!? This is exactly what the fucking article is about! You should [gasp!] read it.
Or you could just hit up google for your opinion of it I guess...

fwap!

Classic, were you just trying to motorboat Jinx?

HA! not at all - "fwap!"was the sound of her point hittin RichL squarely between the eyes.

While I don't disagree with the argument from a evolutionary standpoint, it seems the article is assuming we were healthier prior to the agricultural revolution due to our lack of consumption of wheat, which I do not believe is true. I don't have any authority in this field but what of the possibility that wheat is a double edged sword which provides many nutritional benefits to live longer lives but also is a poison that will kill us in the end.

An example of this would be the chemicals we put in our drinking water. There are studies that show that the chemicals we put in our drinking water cause cancer. My Water Treatment professor fully admitted this as well. But, the reason we still use these chemicals is because they effectively kill other waterborne diseases along with us. So, more or less, it comes down to the choice whether you want to die at age 40 from a waterborne disease or 80 from the chemicals that kill that waterborne disease.

I wonder if wheat works in a similar fashion. It helped allowed us to double or even triple our life expectancy but will help kill us in the end. I am also making the assumption that grain, especially wheat, helped extend our life expectancies, which may not be fully true, but its tough to ignore the health benefits of wheat.

http://www.organicfacts.net/nutritio...nd-barley.html
http://nutrition.suite101.com/articl..._of_wheat_germ

Like for me, the explosive diarrhea keeps the weight off. Just kidding, the escalating cycle of carbohydrate consumption would help keep the blubber on even with streaming liquid shit.

You actually make a good point for those people who can tolerate it.

Agreed. Except that you need water to live whereas wheat is just convenient, at this particular period in history....

C'mon, life without donuts? That's crazy talk. :donut::crazy:

Can foods contribute to infertility?

Also, women with celiac disease are three times more likely to have an autistic child.

In terms of nutrition per acre, wheat or any grain takes up a lot of space. It takes about 8 square feet of land to grow enough wheat to make about two slices of ordinary store bought bread.

That much land could grow a lot more food in the form of beets, or broccoli, or almost any other vegetable. They don't store as well as wheat or other grains, but are better for you to eat.

Also if you read the work of forensic anthropologists they often point out the many degenerative diseases that beset agricultural man. Hunter Gatherers had no such degenerative diseases.

There is a lot of info on the nutrition related diseases of the ancient Egyptians who practiced agriculture.

Wheat isn't the boogeyman under the bed for everyone, but it is for a lot of people. There is also the quality of life question, when it comes to living longer. There's a big difference between living and surviving.

Peanut butter & jelly on beets? On broccoli? No way. :headshake

"Ah! You have made a common mistake here...what you have there is a beet and you have confused it with food. Food is something like a ham sandwich or a bowl of chile."
- Paul Hinrichs

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Its hard avopiding thie garbage now though.... Everything has ENRICHED WHEAT FLOUR (It used to be ENRICHED FLOUR (Which wasnt WHEAT flour))



Nope we have to be alert and aware of things today....Alot of stuff they put in food ON PURPOSE I think to try and hurt people so they require big pharma!!! ($$$$$$$$ for them)