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squirell nutkin 03-12-2010 01:30 PM

Another question for the Brits about Yorkshire accents
 
I've been listening to Jake Thackray lately and according to his bio he is from Yorkshire.

To me his accent sounds a lot like Sean Connery's at times. I'm wondering if the Yorkshire accent sounds like the Edinburgh accent to your ears.

Juniper 03-12-2010 03:07 PM

Hey Bri, isn't that where McLeod was supposed to be from?

limey 03-12-2010 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squirell nutkin (Post 640501)
I've been listening to Jake Thackray lately and according to his bio he is from Yorkshire.

To me his accent sounds a lot like Sean Connery's at times. I'm wondering if the Yorkshire accent sounds like the Edinburgh accent to your ears.

No.

squirell nutkin 03-12-2010 03:33 PM

OK.

Next question please.

monster 03-12-2010 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by limey (Post 640516)
No.

ditto

lumberjim 03-12-2010 06:52 PM

how bout that gecko on the geico commercials?

skysidhe 03-12-2010 07:07 PM

The lizard is an aussie.


lumberjim 03-12-2010 07:19 PM

Quote:

the gecko speaks with an English (Cockney) accent, because it would be unexpected, according to Martin Agency's Steve Bassett. Paul Morgan, a British actor and comedian, is the current voice of the GEICO gecko.

skysidhe 03-12-2010 07:39 PM

oi!


Thanks LJ.
I am reading a blog about the Gecko voice over. Of course I had to go look.

http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/...-by-jake-wood/

The comments at the bottom just crack me up. Entertaining too.

This is from another blog.

"our American friends sometimes have difficulty telling apart English, Welsh, Scottish, Australian and New Zealand accents."

Whereas every brit in the world thinks all Americans sound like Texans.

There is such a plethora of online bickering over the Gecko and our ways.
http://www.crazyontap.com/topic.php?TopicId=482

I think that gecko's accent is partly romantic fiction.

You Brits don't know how much fun we have with the Tiny Tim voice from a Christmas Carol.

It's something to the effect of "Please, sir. My whole family is starving to death. Could I have a crust of bread?"

It's a whole word-play on how impatient, and me-first, a typical American would probably be in that situation. Which is not to say that we would actually expect any real Brit to act that self-denigrating. I'm talking about among the non-rude segment of a population.

:lol:

DanaC 03-12-2010 08:03 PM

Ooooh. Thanks for the All Creatures doc. My family and I used to watch it every week. Loved it.

Tristram of course went on to be the fifth Doctor Who. (youngest one prior to the new lad).

skysidhe 03-12-2010 08:12 PM

The book was good too. :)

I wonder if I should read it again. I am looking to see if it is an adult book.

* searching * It has to be better than the Echo and the Bone.

DanaC 03-12-2010 08:17 PM

They were written for adults. My Dad was really into them before the series was made.


[edit] books, not book. There was a whol series of them. I think my favourite one was 'It Shouldn't Happen to a Vet'

lumberjim 03-12-2010 08:17 PM

are you dissing Gabaldon?

DanaC 03-12-2010 08:21 PM

I don't think Brits think every American sounds Texan. I doubt many do at all in fact. Might not be able to tell you which accent is which, but they all sound very distinct.

lumberjim 03-12-2010 08:23 PM

i have no accent.

clodfobble especially has no accent, and she's in texas.

DanaC 03-12-2010 08:28 PM

You have an accent. That accent may be your version of RP, it's not one I could place. It may not be regional accent at all. But we all speak with accents.

But someone with a Texan accent sounds completely different to someone with a New England accent.

jinx 03-12-2010 08:34 PM

*cough*

DanaC 03-12-2010 08:39 PM

Like i said: it may not be a regional accent. But 'no accent' is in itself an accent. That's why I likened it to 'RP' (received pronunciation). In the UK 'RP' is a non-region specific accent; a kind of correct/standard pronunciation. It is closest to the Home Counties accent; but it is the accent which used to be adopted by all tv and radio presenters and actors (up until recent years) would always learn it and train their voices to it. That's why in old Brit tv and radio everyone sounds more or less the same. It is still the case to a certain extent, but getting less so as regional accents become more common in media.

A lot of people drop or soften their regional accents in line with social mobility. Generally speaking you are taken more seriously (in terms of initial impressions and in certain fields) if your accent is closer to RP and less regional.

I don't have a particularly strong accent most of the time, neither do my immediate family. I drop into northern at times depending on my mood; but i also drop out of it depending on circumstances and company.

lumberjim 03-12-2010 08:39 PM

people on TV (american TV) are the standard by which I say I have no accent.

Californians, Pennsylvanians, Floridians, Arizonians......


In the US, there are (among others)the following accents:

starting in the north east: New Englander, Boston ( BAAAHSTAHHN), New Yoooorker, (see Tony Danza) Jersey (Joisey, hot dooowg) (see also: Tony Soprano) Pa Dutch ( sounds like german...aka Yoni)

South East
: Brett Favre, Elvis, etc.

Southern: Texan twangy

Cajun

Minnesota, yah,.....watch fargo, yah?

Middle American..... they say Pop for Soda, and have weird inflections.... listen to Elspode talk.... ( same thing going on in Pittsburgh)

I'm not really very familiar with Western accents..... Cicero, or Cloud or Lookout may be able to help.

skysidhe 03-12-2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 640546)
They were written for adults. My Dad was really into them before the series was made.

[edit] books, not book. There was a whol series of them. I think my favourite one was 'It Shouldn't Happen to a Vet'

I tried to read all things Wonderful. I don't think I was into it as I was All Things Great and Small.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 640547)
are you dissing Gabaldon?

I loved her series up to this one. I am trying to 'like' this story. Maybe I am just too preoccupied to appreciate the literary goulash of this particular book.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 640548)
I don't think Brits think every American sounds Texan. I doubt many do at all in fact. Might not be able to tell you which accent is which, but they all sound very distinct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 640549)
i have no accent.

clodfobble especially has no accent, and she's in texas.

Many states peoples have no accent this is true. I do not have an accent either.

monster 03-12-2010 08:47 PM

All y'all sound the same to me ...and you can lump in the Canadians, eh ;)

My kids apparantly have a Michigandan accent. We lived in Birmingham UK. Hebe was just starting to acquire a "Brummie" accent -which is the worst UK accent- so it was time to leave. Out of the frying pan, into the fire, eh? :lol:

monster 03-12-2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by skysidhe (Post 640557)
Many states peoples have no accent this is true. I do not have an accent either.

You all have accents. Post a soundbite and we'll tell you what yours is. Otherwise we'll all hear you talking like a toothless hillbilly when we read your posts.

skysidhe 03-12-2010 08:53 PM

g'head

Pie 03-12-2010 08:54 PM

I've been told my only 'Joisey' is the word 'water' -- pronounced 'wadder'.
My father had a bit of a British thing going; my mom gets more Indian with time.

skysidhe 03-12-2010 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 640554)
I'm not really very familiar with Western accents..... Cicero, or Cloud or Lookout may be able to help.

We don't have any. We speak in default mode. lol

squirell nutkin 03-12-2010 09:03 PM

It all goes back to Orange Dog

lumberjim 03-12-2010 09:04 PM

I put a bunch of links in my last post.....go back and click em

skysidhe 03-12-2010 09:10 PM

Accents for everyone but the upper west.

The only thing I could find were these guys.



seriously though



I found an audio clip from my favorite radio station. 101 fm Portland
http://www.kink.fm/topic/play_window...udioId=4407607

PORTLAND!


monster 03-12-2010 09:32 PM

No, we need to hear you.

skysidhe 03-12-2010 10:56 PM

Husky, gruff and growly. You've heard it once, you've heard it a million times.

Or how about tinkling bells on a summer day or maybe a droll monotone that put's people into a comma, or a high nasal whine that grates like fingernails on chalkboard. Take your pick :)

Juniper 03-12-2010 11:30 PM

I shouldn't be reading this thread. I just finished my linguistics class.

But anyway . . . FYI, speaking of US accents, look here:

Do You Speak American? (PBS)

The official US dialects are: West, North, Midland, South, Mid-Atlantic, and New England.

Personally, I'm kind of straddling the isogloss (ooh, a term from class) between Midland and South.

Our linguistics teacher showed us a really funny YouTube making fun of Pittsburgh, called "Pants n'at." :D

xoxoxoBruce 03-12-2010 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 640569)
I put a bunch of links in my last post.....go back and click em

Woefully incomplete though, Massachusetts alone has at least four distinct accents. Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont have a couple each. Connecticut, at least three, but I'm not sure there's more than one in Rhode Island.

skysidhe 03-13-2010 08:51 AM

This is pretty cool. It's an International Dialect Archive.

Dialect soundbites for anywhere in the world with regional dialects too. My regional sound bite is spot on.
http://web.ku.edu/~idea/index.htm

lumberjim 03-13-2010 09:12 AM

that's awesome, sky.

Pico and ME 03-13-2010 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skysidhe (Post 640623)
This is pretty cool. It's an International Dialect Archive.

Dialect soundbites for anywhere in the world with regional dialects too. My regional sound bite is spot on.
http://web.ku.edu/~idea/index.htm

You beat me to the punch with that site, Sky! I spent at least an hour last night listening to different Midwesterners talk. I was trying to find someone that sounded like me and had a hard time with it. I think I should sound more like the guy from Hammond, Indiana since I was born and raised in that region, but I dont know.

squirell nutkin 03-13-2010 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 640594)
Woefully incomplete though, Massachusetts alone has at least four distinct accents. Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont have a couple each. Connecticut, at least three, but I'm not sure there's more than one in Rhode Island.

The five boroughs of manhattan each have distinct sounds Bronx and Brooklyn most notably different. Then there's LI, Westchester, Upstate east, west, and central.

Clodfobble 03-13-2010 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster
My kids apparantly have a Michigandan accent. We lived in Birmingham UK. Hebe was just starting to acquire a "Brummie" accent -which is the worst UK accent- so it was time to leave. Out of the frying pan, into the fire, eh?

She might in general... but I do recall that Hebe says "pasta" like a Brit.

skysidhe 03-14-2010 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 640626)
that's awesome, sky.

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pico and ME (Post 640634)
You beat me to the punch with that site, Sky! I spent at least an hour last night listening to different Midwesterners talk. I was trying to find someone that sounded like me and had a hard time with it. I think I should sound more like the guy from Hammond, Indiana since I was born and raised in that region, but I dont know.

It was fun!

The only thing that stuck out at me from they guy from Hammond as the pronunciation of Chicago.

Shawnee123 03-14-2010 10:38 AM

I liked that site, and listened to some of them. I think I probably sound most like Ohio Six...but that chick can't read. ;)

It didn't seem to hit the extremes...such as my boyfriend from a thousand years ago who hailed from a farm in the middle of nowhere in Minnesota. I didn't find anything that had the accent those people have. And Cajun wasn't represented in Louisiana (or I didn't hear that one) because when I visited Cajun country I could barely understand what people were saying.

Then again, we never sound like we think we sound. When I hear my voice on a recording I think "nuh-uh, that's not how I sound."

Anyway, mon has heard me talk in real life, maybe she can chime in...I always thought I had a definite "midwest twang" but have been told my accent is pretty neutral.

I've never completely shaken my 1980s Valley Girl leanings, though. Totally.

monster 03-14-2010 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 640792)
She might in general... but I do recall that Hebe says "pasta" like a Brit.

She does, although she claim to say it American-style when with her friends :lol:

Juniper 03-14-2010 07:21 PM

Yeah Ohio 6 is about right for me. But wow, couldn't they have found a speaker that was a tad more literate? She can't tell the difference between "comma" and "coma" and apparently has no clue what "ether" is!

How do Americans/Brits say "pasta?" Isn't it -- phonetically -- /pastə/?

squirell nutkin 03-14-2010 08:48 PM

My Brit friends say Paahss the Pasta, I say Pass the Paahsta.

skysidhe 03-14-2010 09:10 PM

So when you guys (Shawnee and Juni) say Ohio is it pronounced with the _o at the end or just an -ah sound? I say O- hi-o.

I know Oregon is pronounced all different kinds of ways.

My friend from Canada pronounces pasta 'pay-sta' and he goes to post a package not mail a package but otherwise there isn't much of an accent.

Juniper 03-14-2010 10:04 PM

Nope, Ohio, with an o.

Now, there are some people who say Cincinnati or Missouri like Cincinnatah, Missourah. In fact my pastor at church this morning said "Missourah." Cracked me up. He's from New York. I think he tries to change his speech sometimes so he sounds local. Fail. :)

But, you've gotta know the correct way to pronounce Louisville, KY. Quiz: Short answer, let's hear it. ;)

Pie 03-15-2010 09:09 AM

Nerk, A-hai

Shawnee123 03-15-2010 09:10 AM

Lew-vul

Juniper 03-15-2010 11:06 AM

Correct. And it's not Dayton, it's Day-in.

Well, there's no glottal flap on my keyboard.

Cicero 03-19-2010 12:55 PM

Sorry Jim, no accent here...:)


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