The Cellar - Mar 14, 2010: Muscle Trout

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Mar 14, 2010: Muscle Trout

Looks like a Rainbow Trout on steroids, but it's much more complicated than that.

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A 10-year effort by a University of Rhode Island scientist to develop transgenic rainbow trout with enhanced muscle growth has yielded fish with what have been described as six-pack abs and muscular shoulders that could provide a boost to the commercial aquaculture industry.

http://cellar.org/2010/musclefish.jpg

May be hot to a lady trout, but looks ugly to me.:greenface

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Terry Bradley, a URI professor of fisheries and aquaculture, said his research into the inhibition of myostatin, a protein that slows muscle growth, has obtained "stunning results" in the last two years, with trout growing 15 to 20 percent more muscle mass than standard fish.

But dude, you're messing with Mother Nature here... you sure you know what you're doin'?

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Bradley and a team of graduate students spent 500 hours injecting 20,000 rainbow trout eggs with various DNA types designed to inhibit myostatin. Of the eggs that hatched, 300 carried the gene that led to increased muscle growth. After two years, most exhibited a "six-pack ab" effect, even though fish lack standard abdominal muscles. They also have increased musculature throughout, including a prominent dorsal hump that made them look like they had muscular shoulders.

The first generation of transgenic trout were subsequently spawned, and offspring carrying the gene in all of their muscle cells have been produced. Studies are under way to determine if the fish grow at a faster rate as well.

Well that answers my question, you don't. :headshake

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I am *so* not eating one of those abominations.

Cripes. What happens when these mutant motherfuckers get loose in the perfect Idaho trout stream?

Kick your ass, is what.

I thought it said musical trout and I thought of that annoying commercial with the singing fish.

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 640781)

I thought it said musical trout and I thought of that annoying commercial with the singing fish.

I hate that commercial.:mad2:

I see a horror flick, coming soon, to a theater near you..

Probably that muscle inhibitor that these guys turned off is there for a reason. My guess is that excess muscle would out these fish at a disadvantage in the real world, so if (really, when) any escape, they won't prosper. At least I really really hope so, cause I would not eat that thing and I do NOT want them swimming about free.

I still say they should just leave stuff the fuck alone.

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Originally Posted by capnhowdy (Post 640812)

I still say they should just leave stuff the fuck alone.

Seriously! That is creepy and scary and just plain wrong.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 640822)

I am not an animal!

One of my favorite lines.

:lol:

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Originally Posted by Elspode (Post 640774)

Cripes. What happens when these mutant motherfuckers get loose in the perfect Idaho trout stream?

They will escape. We'll know soon enough.

Maybe they'll eat the snakeheads.

If you happened to catch one of these things, would you eat it? I mean, LOOK at it. :headshake

Ok, so these freaks have 15 to 20 percent more muscle mass. What do they TASTE like, and more importantly, what will ingesting these genetically altered fish muscles do to my muscles?

:eyebrow:

Besides the ick-factor issues, there are other problems with these fish. From a related story:

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Risks Involved With Transgenic Fish

More resistant to toxins

For example, transgenic fish can be more resistant to environmental toxins, which could entail the accumulation of toxins that ultimately end up in consumers. There are also misgivings that the higher level of growth hormone in the fish can affect people. Researchers at the University of Gothenburg have therefore been commissioned by the EU to study the environmental effects of GMO (genetically modified organisms) within fish farming. The results of the studies show that the genetically modified fish should be treated with great care.

Simulated escapes

Sundström, PhD at the Department of Zoology, has studied transgenic salmon and rainbow trout to ascertain what ecological risks they might constitute for the natural environment. The study, which simulated escapes in a laboratory environment, shows that transgenic fish have a considerably greater effect on the natural environment than hatchery-reared non-transgenic fish when they escape. For example, genetically modified fish survive better when there is a shortage of food, and benefit more than non-transgenic fish from increasing water temperatures.

"It is probably due to the fact that genetically modified fish have a greater ability to compete and are better at converting food," says Sundström.

Natural breeds are under threat

If transgenic fish become established in natural stocks they would be able to outcompete the natural breeds. However, conducting studies in a laboratory environment that imitates nature is complicated, which makes it difficult to predict how escaped transgenic fish affect the natural environment. Sundström's conclusion is that international consensus is required before commercial farming can be permitted, and that a precautionary principle must be applied.

"They might just as well have come out and said, 'Hey we made cancer airborne and contagious. You're welcome.We're science: all about coulda, not shoulda.'"

--Patton Oswalt

You know, and another thing, All this bullshit about helping to feed more people is so fucking wrong. There's plenty of food on this planet. Why not work at making people less greedy and short sighted, and stop destroying prime farm land to put in shopping malls, FFS.

Your righteous outrage would be entirely valid if anyone actually gave a damn about feeding people. Unfortunately, all any of the corporate entities involved in food production care about is owning the *means* to feed people, patenting it, suing the pants off of anyone who is unfortunate enough to have a bee pollenate their crop with someone's genetically modified crop, and finally blackmailing the entire planet into parting with all of their money just to be fed.

Face it folks, the only right to life any of us have at this point is to serve as a source of money for some corporation. The only reason these bastards will help feed us is so they can continue to bleed us of our money. Health care? Same difference. I could make a list.

My dad would always take us fishing and he would cook the trout. I could never eat it but I do like sea fish. I can't stomach trout. The same thing with that Talapia. All of the sudden we have this less than savory, imo although I am sure it's fine,( cringe ) ugly fish we are suppose to consume.

Are we really eating the ocean's fish supply up so we need to eat that!
Oh and that...mutant fish?

Just give me a good red snapper without the muscles please.

( mussels yes muscles no )

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Originally Posted by skysidhe (Post 640936)

Just give me a good red snapper without the muscles please.

i love me a good red snapper. we got a couple and grilled them up on the grill..... man.....good god y'all. that was some good eatin. i guarantee.

tasted like a big old pile of back fin crab meat.

red snapper = WIN

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 640940)

schnapper?

My grandmothers third husband talked like that. I forget where he was from lol. She had so many of them.:o

She outlived three husbands.

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 640943)

yes win! whoo

You know though they call them 'Rock Cod' these days. Here anyway. There is a separation between the two I had not investigated thoroughly except to know if I want a true red snapper very often I need to go east to get it.
I got that information when I finally had to put my foot down and ask the meat market dude where the heck the schnapper was.

( lol I like that pronunciation )

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benefit more than non-transgenic fish from increasing water temperatures.

Global warming? Not to worry, we'll alter all the critters to cope.;)

That's pretty disgusting. I wish them all a speedy death.

Wait, you guys want all the trout to look like Kate Moss, dissing the full figured trout that don't conform to your ideal standards. No wonder anorexia and bulimia is rampant in the schools. :(

Pshaw. If a normal trout is Kate Moss, that trout is this chick:

I just thought it was another euphemism for penis.

That human left "chickdom" about 60,000 reps ago.

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Originally Posted by squirell nutkin (Post 641197)

That human left "chickdom" about 60,000 reps ago.

Imma let you finish, but that person is the least chick-lookin' chick that ever was. EVER.

Edit: After further review.... NOT a chick. Look at those hands. Look at that freakin' ugly mug. No girl is that ugly.

scuse me, but why is that guy wearing a bikini?
Sheldon? SHELDON?!?!?!?!?!?

Muscle trout says, "You bedda come up wit dose shrimp by the fifteenth or you not gonna feel so good."

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Originally Posted by Glinda

Edit: After further review.... NOT a chick. Look at those hands. Look at that freakin' ugly mug. No girl is that ugly.

Testosterone and steroid shots, I'm assuming.

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 641538)

Testosterone and steroid shots, I'm assuming.

In which case, they'll end up with a star next to their names in the trout hall of fame.