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Facebook stuff--whoa!

Skynet . . . er, Facebook is really taking over. Not sure about how I feel about this:

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. . . your friends' Facebook profile photos will start showing up all over the web. . . . These new Facebook features will show up regardless of whether or not you have entered a user name and password on a particular website.

Facebook says these recommendations and social connections are the basis for the future of the Internet. Boring old hyperlinks are becoming something of the past, the company says.

Some Internet users might worry about the fact that their Facebook profile photos, as well as their likes and dislikes, are going to show up all over the web. . . . But, if nothing else, that means you should probably double-check your privacy settings.

yeah, I'd say so.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/04/21/f...ex.html?hpt=T2

wow - it just keeps getting better doesn't it?

FWIW - maybe this should go here

I like playing Zagnorf, Zyban, Zelda (??whatever??) poker. Been farting around with it for the past 2-3 months. Got a bankroll of darn near 190k.
People bet weird on it. Had the damdest thing happen this morning with it too. I had a full house (Ace's over 10's) and I bet 5k in chips. One guy raised me 5k and I matched it. At first I was wondering WTF he drew? then the hands showed. The dumbass had a pair of 6's. WTF was that about? Trying to bluff someone who had a full house! What an idiot. Must've been a liberal.

Dear, DEAR Madman: Concerning the link associated with 'your next career move': Thank you. (You are in my will.)

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 650831)

Dear, DEAR Madman: Concerning the link associated with 'your next career move': Thank you. (You are in my will.)

No problem. Stumbled across that when I did a search looking for info about Massage Therapy. It was like... WoW! :shock:

Interesting letter to Facebook.

Good to see someone is taking interest.

Senators' letter to Facebook

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April 27, 2010

Dear Mr. Zuckerberg,

We are writing to express our concern regarding recent changes to the Facebook privacy policy and the use of personal data on third party websites. While Facebook provides a valuable service to users by keeping them connected with friends and family and reconnecting them with long-lost friends and colleagues, the expansion of Facebook – both in the number of users and applications – raises new concerns for users who want to maintain control over their information. The following three changes have raised concerns:

1. Publicly available data. Facebook’s expansion of publicly available data to include a user’s current city, hometown, education, work, likes, interests, and friends has raised concerns for users who would like to have an opt-in option to share this profile information. Through the expanded use of “connections,” Facebook now obligates users to make publicly available certain parts of their profile that were previously private. If the user does not want to connect to a page with other users from their current town or university, the user will have that information deleted altogether from their profile. We appreciate that Facebook allows users to type this information into the “Bio” section of their profiles, and privatize it, but we believe that users should have more control over these very personal and very common data points. These personal details should remain private unless a user decides that he/she would like to make a connection and share this information with a community.

2. Third party data storage. Previously, Facebook allowed third-party advertisers to store profile data for 24 hours. We are concerned that recent changes allow that data to be stored indefinitely. We believe that Facebook should reverse this policy, or at a minimum require users to opt in to allowing third parties to store data for more than 24 hours.

3. Instant personalization. We appreciate that Facebook is attempting to integrate the functionality of several popular websites, and that Facebook has carefully selected its initial partners for its new “instant personalization” feature. We are concerned, however, that this feature will now allow certain third party partners to have access not only to a user’s publicly available profile information, but also to the user’s friend list and the publicly available information about those friends. As a result of the other changes noted above, this class of information now includes significant and personal data points that should be kept private unless the user chooses to share them. Although we are pleased that Facebook allows users to opt-out of sharing private data, many users are unaware of this option and, moreover, find it complicated and confusing to navigate. Facebook should offer users the ability to opt-in to sharing such information, instead of opting out, and should make the process for doing so more clear and coherent.

We hope that Facebook will stand by its goal of creating open and transparent communities by working to ensure that its policies protect the sensitive personal biographical data of its users and provide them with full control over their personal information. We look forward to the FTC examining this issue, but in the meantime we believe Facebook can take swift and productive steps to alleviate the concerns of its users. Providing opt-in mechanisms for information sharing instead of expecting users to go through long and complicated opt-out processes is a critical step towards maintaining clarity and transparency.

Sincerely,

U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer (D-NY)

U.S. Senator Michael Bennet (D-CO)

U.S. Senator Mark Begich (D-AK)

U.S. Senator Al Franken (D-MN)

Yeah, what's up with FB as of late? They realized how large their user base is growing and they're becoming greedy.

They think, "Oh, the users won't mind if we tweak this or that!"

People are getting pissed.. sooner or later they're gonna move on. I love the idea of making friends and staying connected, but if FB isn't careful, they'll keep scaring everyone off.

If Google did a good Facebook, I'd be gone in a second.

what? you don't "buzz"??

I have a buzz account, but haven't figured out how it's better than e-mail.

It isn't. And till Teh Goog gets its policies worked out, it has worse privacy problems than fb.

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 652481)

If Google did a good Facebook, I'd be gone in a second.

I am pretty sure they have already done it.

It is called Orkut.

Stolen Facebook Accounts for Sale

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During several weeks in February, iDefense tracked an effort to sell log-in data for 1.5 million Facebook accounts on several online criminal marketplaces, including one called Carder.su.

That hacker, who used the screen name “kirllos” and appears to deal only in Facebook accounts, offered to sell bundles of 1,000 accounts with 10 or fewer friends for $25 and with more than 10 friends for $45, says Rick Howard, iDefense’s director of cyber intelligence.

The case points to a significant expansion in the illicit market for social networking accounts from Eastern Europe to the United States, he said.

Criminals steal log-in data for Facebook accounts, typically with “phishing” techniques that tricks users into disclosing their passwords or with malware that logs keystrokes. They then use the accounts to send spam, distribute malicious programs and run identity and other fraud.

Facebook says it believes that the hacker’s claims to control large numbers of Facebook accounts are bogus. The company attempted to purchase accounts as part of its investigation into the incident, said a spokesman, Barry Schnitt. However, “the hacker was unable to produce anything for our buyer,” he said.

Facebook’s investigators also discovered that “kirllos” has a reputation “for wild claims,” he said.

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 651981)

Interesting letter to Facebook.

Good to see someone is taking interest.

Senators' letter to Facebook

It's none of the government's fucking business, hypocrit.

Next thing you know, they'll be trying to stuff the entire government into one small facebook page. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 653428)

It's none of the government's fucking business, hypocrit.

As long as they expose you to the world I am good with it.

10 Reasons To Delete Your Facebook Account

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10. Facebook's Terms Of Service are completely one-sided. Let's start with the basics. Facebook's Terms Of Service state that not only do they own your data (section 2.1), but if you don't keep it up to date and accurate (section 4.6), they can terminate your account (section 14).

9. Facebook's CEO has a documented history of unethical behavior. From the very beginning of Facebook's existence, there are questions about Zuckerberg's ethics. According to BusinessInsider.com, he used Facebook user data to guess email passwords and read personal email in order to discredit his rivals.

8. Facebook has flat out declared war on privacy. Founder and CEO of Facebook, in defense of Facebook's privacy changes last January: "People have really gotten comfortable not only sharing more information and different kinds, but more openly and with more people. That social norm is just something that has evolved over time."

7. Facebook is pulling a classic bait-and-switch. At the same time that they're telling developers how to access your data with new APIs, they are relatively quiet about explaining the implications of that to members. What this amounts to is a bait-and-switch. Facebook gets you to share information that you might not otherwise share, and then they make it publicly available.

6. Facebook is a bully. When Pete Warden demonstrated just how this bait-and-switch works they sued him. Keep in mind, this happened just before they announced the Open Graph API and stated that the "default is now social."

5. Even your private data is shared with applications. At this point, all your data is shared with applications that you install. Which means now you're not only trusting Facebook, but the application developers, too, many of whom are too small to worry much about keeping your data secure.

4. Facebook is not technically competent enough to be trusted. Even if we weren't talking about ethical issues here, I can't trust Facebook's technical competence to make sure my data isn't hijacked. For example, their recent introduction of their "Like" button makes it rather easy for spammers to gain access to my feed and spam my social network.

3. Facebook makes it incredibly difficult to truly delete your account. They make no promises about deleting your data and every application you've used may keep it as well. On top of that, account deletion is incredibly (and intentionally) confusing.

2. Facebook doesn't (really) support the Open Web. The so-called Open Graph API is named so as to disguise its fundamentally closed nature. It's bad enough that the idea here is that we all pitch in and make it easier than ever to help Facebook collect more data about you.

1. The Facebook application itself sucks. Between the farms and the mafia wars and the "top news" and the myriad privacy settings and the annoying ads and the thousands upon thousands of crappy applications, Facebook is almost completely useless to me at this point.

Facebook is clearly determined to add every feature of every competing social network in an attempt to take over the Web (this is a never-ending quest that goes back to AOL and those damn CDs that were practically falling out of the sky). While Twitter isn't the most usable thing in the world, at least they've tried to stay focused and aren't trying to be everything to everyone.

Link

I find it not user friendly at all. Anyone know of a helpful, current guide?

I don't give them too much personal information, especially not my birthdate.

BTW, this is funny. It uses your name and Facebook photo.

http://beck.cnnbcvideo.com/index.html

You can limit your birth date to friends only.

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 659605)

You can limit your birth date to friends only.

I don't trust them to keep it that way. My closest relatives know my birthday, and it's not worth it to receive birthday greetings from acquaintances. I generally make it a rule to lie about my birthday to all sites except those that have a real need to know (insurance quotes, banks, etc).

Name + birth date + SSN = Identity theft.

BTW, sorry for the deception,UT, but I'm not actually 25 years old.:D:D:D

Aw shit I left my SSN setting on "friends of friends"!

Well if somebody wants my identity, they can have it. They can't fuck it up any worse than I have.

if you deliberately lie, you're violating FB's policies which you agreed to though. Why fill stuff in at all? Just leave things blank.

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 659663)

if you deliberately lie, you're violating FB's policies which you agreed to though. Why fill stuff in at all? Just leave things blank.

I do leave my birthday blank on Facebook. It's the sites that don't need to know and ask anyway. All they should care about is that I'm over 13.

I can't believe how open they are about selling our info. We have to remember that share means sell.
They are becoming too complex and shady. I'm thinking of deactivating as much as possible, as I also have become too addicted to f b!

serves people right for clicking on weird shit. just keep it to people you actually KNOW, don't play the stupid games, and keep the personal info to a minimum.

Oh, and don't post ANYTHING work related at all.