Taliban hang 7-year-old boy accused of being a spy
 

As if that wasn't bad enough ...
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I heard this am that the suicide bomber was a 14 year old boy.
WTF? How does one reason with people like this.

reason with fanatics? are you joking? not possible.

Very tragic.

By very reasonably lowering them into a grave. Or at least pieces of them.

Yep; that's sure how to be popular.

Same stories, 'nother link, to the Talibs hanging a seven-year-old kid.

Pack 250g Semtex up their asses and touch it off, by the ripple. Those fools have never figured that their fanaticism would engender a mirroring fanaticism rising up to oppose them. That kind never do.

Throw a reasonably-sized hand grenade to/at them...

Ask Dick Cheney. He'd execute a 7 year old boy. I'll bet some Cellarites would, too.

Well, sure that's a reasonable statement Spexx.

A bit of a stretch, spexx.

Cheney only authorized detaining minors...some as young as 14

Guantanamo Children

and using enhanced interrogation techniques (torture) on some, one to the point that he committed suicide.

And, I do recall some Cellarites having no problem with torture.

Good memory. I don't.

Selective memory loss?

Not at all. I quite clearly remember saying I don't have a problem with enhanced interrogation techniques(torture if you prefer) under certain circumstances.

Do you have a lower age limit for torture? Bush/Cheney evidently didnt.

If you think a 14 year old Taliban soldier, isn't just as dangerous as a 28 year old Taliban soldier, you are mistaken. In most of the World, a 14 year old is expected to carry his share of the load, unlike here where we insist they are children.

How about 14 years old swept up because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time....and held for 5 years or more with no evidence that they were engaged in terrorists activities?

And torture is still illegal under US law and treaty obligations. A unilateral presidential declaration calling it "enhanced interrogation techniques" doesn't change that.

Torture him until he confesses.

I don't know that I'd do the deed, or not, but, I'll make you a good deal on the hole though.:yelgreedy

War is hell. Deal with it or get out of the way and let those who will, do so.

Our perspective seems to be completely warped in their universe as well.

Somebody sent me this a couple weeks ago...

The demonizing of Bush/Cheney is misplaced, superstitious, defective mentally, and to be abhorred by the reasonable. If you do not abhor this, you can't ever believe yourself to be a reasonable person, and must be ashamed of yourself.

The neocons are much more freedom-fighters than you ever were or ever will be. They actually think it's the best way for living humans.

That Democrats think like this is one reason I never vote for Democratic candidates. They have amputated their faculty for common, or any other, sense.

Damn the Constitution and International Treaties.....Full Speed Ahead!

You are not seriously putting my opinion and UG's above as saying the same thing are you.

Damn man, I keep trying and you keep being an asshole. :eyebrow:

Aww...you try so hard...and you still keep coming up ass first.

You guys crack me up....Jack Bauer wannabees protecting the American way of life!

So what if we torture...some of the people, some of the time.

If they do it, we should do it back....fuck the law. That is the American way?????

Uh, no - Its back to name-calling again bcause apparently when you cannot respond to or understand what I (and perhaps others, but I'll let them speak for themselves) you change what is posted or misconstrue the meaning or or or ... WTFE. Gets really old. remember when I asked you why you hated the police and you got all bent outta shape? Same thing here - you didn't like it did you?
But it still doesn't stop you from repeatedly doing it to me.
Why is it that you do that? You don't seem to be that dishonest.

I think Merc and UG are funny. I dont take either one of them seriously.

You? You're just not that bright. That is my honest opinion and having tried repeatedly to explain things to you, I have lost my patience..and now I treat you accordingly.

Another nice edit after the reply as well. Just keepin' track of how you continually change our posts after others reply to what WAS written.

Too bad you can't do that in real life eh? Oh wait ...


Excellent avoidance, again. Bravo!

This is a step in the right direction. The next step is to stop taking their bait.

WTF are you bitching about now.

My last edit: 12: 59 -- your response post: 1:28

My last post: 1:31 pm -- your response post: 1:35 pm


Like I said....you're not the brightest bulb in the Cellar.

But I like poking them with a stick. Yep, I am easily amused.

There ya go. Back to the insults. Not very surprising.
You also believe that anyone who disagrees with you is somehow less intelligent.
Nice condescending attitude - not.

Even if he edited out a worse name than "Jack Bauer wannabee" (half an hour before your response), you can hardly claim that Redux is the one who moved it "back to name-calling again".

Thanks, but it wasn't in just this thread. His crap is all over the place.
No worries. I am done. He is now on ignore and may continue without me.

Of course, one again, caught with your pants down and making a baseless charge.

And, btw, I dont think Merc or UG or any others are less inteligent than me.

You have sole posession of that prize, along with being the only one here I think is a two-faced liar. Experiencing your back-stapping first hand and watching other lies you have perpetrated here, I wouldnt trust you as far as I could throw you.

As bad or worse to me are the Taliban's systematic poisoning of the young schoolgirls in Afghanistan. (shakes head). Although no one has died yet--who poisons little girls just because they're in school?

Only evil, misguided men.

This is all because of a misunderstanding...He wasn't a 7 year old spy. He was a 007 year old spy...<---See what I did there?

That being my precise point: an accurate understanding of the situation shows us the Bush Administration adhered more to the Constitution than either the Administration before his, or the one after. You didn't find senior officials telling us "The Constitution doesn't concern me" in the Bush Administration, but you do now. No wonder I didn't vote for this guy. No wonder I'm going to vote against him next chance I get, too. No wonder I'm going to contribute money to his opponents.

And what about treaties? I don't recall anyone getting shortchanged enough to notice. Where are you getting this? Leftwing blogs? Have you at the last no sense of critical thinking whatsoever? If you're a Democrat, Redux, I thank God I'm not one.

Well, anyway -- spelling and punctuation as original.

In fact, i got it from DoJ IG internal investigation that found the Bush DoJ attorneys used "poor judgment" (a slap on the wrist...the least harsh penalty) and may have acted politically to meet the demands/expectations of the White House to justify torture. Others within the Dept, particularly, the Office of Professional Responsibility, thought it was worse than that and wanted harsher penalties.

And it was not the only internal IG investigation that the Bush DoJ put political expediency above the rule of law. It also applied to actions within the Civil Rights Division and general hiring practices within the Dept.

Three internal reviews casting doubt or finding serious actions by political appointees within the Department that were counter to the concept of following the law.

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As to the "before or after", we had that discussion (link) and the best you could come up with about previous (Clinton) DoJ was a book, by Rush Limbaugh's brother, some wingnut site about Reno and a strip club and that someone said that they knew someone who overheard someone suggesting that Reno was involved in a lesbian sexy orgy.

So, please, dont lecture me unless you have facts to support your claims.

But if you insist on continuing a discussion of the respective DoJs, I will be happy to oblige....lets take it back to the link above. :)

DOJ internal investigation... because lawyers never lie, lawyers never have an axe to grind, lawyers are never political, so we can certainly believe that report. :rolleyes:

So you have no faith in the system of federal Inspectors General at all? That they are independent of the political process?

Cool.

Oh, I forgot to list the firing of the US Attorney in the examples of how the Bush DoJ abused the process. The IG report concluded that there was significant evidence that political partisan considerations were an important factor in the removal of several US Attorneys....particularly in the case of David Iglesias, where they found evidence that complaints to Karl Rove by New Mexico Republican political officials and party activists about how Iglesias was handling voter fraud cases (ie ACORN) led to Iglesias's removal (ie he was fired because he didnt do what the White House wanted, even though there was no evidence of voter fraud)

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IG report on the above, in case you or UG care to read it. It is not as titillating as UG's link about Reno. :)

NO, they are employed by the same whores you suck up to.

He does glare a lot though...:o

Redux, given your cast of mind, I am sure you carefully do not recall the Clinton Administration dumping all 93 US Attorneys immediately upon entering office -- because this was a Democratic Administration after all -- which cleared the way for the Reno DoJ and those 93 uniformly Clinton appointees to the 93 positions to spend all their serious effort running interference for an ethically-dubious string of gaffes by both the President and the First Lady, each practically trading off with the other. The DoJ stayed like that from beginning to end of that Administration, and the Clinton Administration lived under a permanent faint gray cloud of scandal.

Your boys just suck. Blatantly. I don't vote for such sucky people. You do. If you've ever voted against one, then I do you a disservice; but I've never heard of that being the case.

So did Reagan.

What neither of them did was fire their own appointees for not pursuing a political agenda when it could not be supported by law.

Reagan's methods remained legal throughout his terms of office, Redux. The same cannot be said of Mr. Clinton, whose administration was under that perpetual gray cloud -- especially with regard to the DoJ and the interference it ran for the Clinton White House, and for both terms. I am blessed with normal memory, and recall this clearly.

He didn't fool me enough to vote for him either. But you, OTOH... you give the greatest possible support at every single opportunity to a group that does not merit it -- the Democratic Party, for two generations America's fuckup gang. That is not the action of a man who is either intelligent or honest. Yeah... you're fooled. I shan't be.

Your memory hasn't been challenged, it's your fucked up perception that is so amusing. :haha:

Oh, I challenge his memory about the Reagan administration.

Iran/Contra....11 Reagan officials convicted, some felony convictions (Ollie North for one...the UG type patriot)....all pardoned by GHW Bush on his last days in office.

Let's see now: Redux, in his -- wisdom -- doesn't think bleeding an Iranian undemocracy of money to fund overthrowing a Nicaraguan collectivist undemocracy amounts to a good thing.

Riiiiiiight.

If we did more of this, the forces of undemocracy would be really hurting, which is what the people of freedom want.

Redux, you never believed in liberty, and are fanatically determined to undermine it on this board. Welcome to your utter failure, Democratic wheezing hack and lobotomy case. Your ideology allows only a pretense at intellect. You could do better were you to abandon it, and grow an intellectual life worthy of the living. Beats your present approach of "what need have I of values or principles, when there is the Party?" -- in your case, the Democratic Party, whose symbol is the Jack-ass.

I have a freer and more intelligent way to be. I out-think, out-philosophize, and out-punch you. Your present thinking is valuable only as a chew-toy. This seems unfortunate; you'd be a better man and a better philosopher were it not so.

Bruce, believe in liberty more than you do -- otherwise you risk turning into a son of a bitch, possibly a slavemonger as well. Would such be your life's goal? Doesn't look too worthy from here.

Life's goal? Ignore wackos.

OMG xob - I'm REALLY trying

'Kay, then: in accordance with your goal, pay close attention to me from now on. You know me; no matter how many people --on the Internet -- tell me I'm crazy, I just ignore them. Not necessarily per your fine advice, but you nutshell it nicely.