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xoxoxoBruce 08-10-2010 11:37 PM

Aug 11, 2010: Wheelchair Ramps
 
Wheelchair ramps became the law here in the US, I would guess with the Americans with Disabilities Act, 20 years ago. But that didn't suddenly cause ramps to spring up like mushrooms, quite often they weren't required until some change was made requiring a building (remodeling) permit. Lately we've seen tons of curb cuts at intersections being made, with federal economic recovery funds.

But some people are bitter about having to do it...

http://cellar.org/2010/ramp1.jpg
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And some people are sadistic...

http://cellar.org/2010/ramp2.jpg
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Bullitt 08-10-2010 11:51 PM

Cue rkzenrage to show up from ban-hammer land and make a huge, rant-filled post.

xoxoxoBruce 08-10-2010 11:59 PM

He came down on this issue several times... on both sides.;)

wolf 08-11-2010 12:33 AM

Although nowhere near as wicked as the two last examples, the ramp at the nuthouse is built at a much steeper grade than it should be. I've had to shove a number of wheelchair bound visitors and patients up it, as well as warning them about the possibility of wiping out at the bottom.

I must admit that I have watched the wheelchair start of the Boston Marathon for the pileups.

Lamplighter 08-11-2010 01:14 AM

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Most of the links are terrible insults, but this one from the same (lower right) link looks like someone actually tried to do some good design work...

Griff 08-11-2010 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt (Post 675719)
Cue rkzenrage to show up from ban-hammer land and make a huge, rant-filled post.

He missed that whole "reasonable accommodation" thing.

Happy Monkey 08-11-2010 06:34 AM

It looks to me like photo 2 is on a beach that has eroded away.

Gravdigr 08-11-2010 07:20 AM

If Evel Knieval was still alive, he would jump all of those ramps with a Harley powered wheel chair.

Adak 08-11-2010 08:25 AM

I would walk up the wheelchair ramp part of the steps Lamplighter posted the picture of, just to feel inspired by the great design it has.

Well done! :cool: :cool:

I don't see how those ramps with the steep angles, ever got approved. That's a hell of a big lawsuit, just waiting for the first wheelchair victim.

Spexxvet 08-11-2010 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Adak (Post 675778)
I don't see how those ramps with the steep angles, ever got approved. That's a hell of a big lawsuit, just waiting for the first wheelchair victim.

Hopefully the first victim is the person who approved/designed/built it.

Rhianne 08-11-2010 08:51 AM

Words fail me. It's hard to believe that not one person in the chain from conception to execution thought to say, 'no, this is just ridiculous'. I often have to manoeuver my partner's chair through some awkward routes but no way would I, or anyone else I suspect, ever go near either of those bottom two.

classicman 08-11-2010 09:12 AM

Agreed. Having some experience as well, I'm completely shocked that either one ever got built. There is no way anyone with a wheelchair is going to make it up something that steep. Maneuvering down either of those is even more frightening to think about.

Adak - totally agree!

Clodfobble 08-11-2010 09:45 AM

It's not about people actually traversing them. It's about retro-fitting an existing establishment with the minimum requirements so that a lawyer can't sue them into bankruptcy for not meeting ADA guidelines. The people setting these things up aren't patting themselves on the back for being helpful to the disabled, they're grumbling the whole way about the stupidity of having to adapt places that are basically impossible to adapt without a complete tear-down.

classicman 08-11-2010 09:57 AM

I didn't know the ADA was also in Russia :P:

Happy Monkey 08-11-2010 10:31 AM

The comments in the link question whether some of these are actually wheelchair ramps.

TheMercenary 08-11-2010 11:35 AM

The one in pic two is actually a wc ramp launching device.

ToastyOhs 08-11-2010 01:19 PM

Being in a wheelchair does not mean that you are frail or sickly.

I can imagine the Murderball folks lining up to take a ride down those last two.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheelchair_rugby

WillieO 08-11-2010 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 675740)
It looks to me like photo 2 is on a beach that has eroded away.

I agree it looks like a beach setting...wait a minute, has anyone tried to push a wheelcahair on the beach?:eek:

monster 08-11-2010 06:05 PM

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Here's the ramp we installed

classicman 08-11-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WillieO (Post 675899)
I agree it looks like a beach setting...wait a minute, has anyone tried to push a wheelchair on the beach?:eek:

They have them, but they are a little different than you might expect.
http://www.hazelhurst.com.au/ssc/rwp...wheelchair.jpg

This one is a little different than those I am used to seeing. The ones I am familiar with have large yellow plastic tires.

ZenGum 08-12-2010 04:59 AM

Could be some of those ramps are so delivery chaps can get their hand trolleys up the stairs. At least I hope so.

Spexxvet 08-12-2010 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 675921)
They have them, but they are a little different than you might expect.
http://www.hazelhurst.com.au/ssc/rwp...wheelchair.jpg

This one is a little different than those I am used to seeing. The ones I am familiar with have large yellow plastic tires.

No more yellow - yellow's been patented by the Whiffle Corporation :rolleyes:

Shawnee123 08-12-2010 10:37 AM

And boy, are the Wiffles pissed. ;)

Acero 08-20-2010 12:39 AM

The fact that the accommodation of wheelchair user is very flexible now. This is really an inspiration to us who has disability. They made our life become easier.

xoxoxoBruce 08-20-2010 02:07 AM

Wecome to the Cellar, Acero. :D
Care to share your personal experiences with this?


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