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classicman 08-16-2010 01:21 PM

Secret War on Terrorism
 
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WASHINGTON — At first, the news from Yemen on May 25 sounded like a modest victory in the campaign against terrorists: an airstrike had hit a group suspected of being operatives for Al Qaeda in the remote desert of Marib Province, birthplace of the legendary queen of Sheba.

But the strike, it turned out, had also killed the province’s deputy governor, a respected local leader who Yemeni officials said had been trying to talk Qaeda members into giving up their fight. Yemen’s president, Ali Abdullah Saleh, accepted responsibility for the death and paid blood money to the offended tribes.

The strike, though, was not the work of Mr. Saleh’s decrepit Soviet-era air force. It was a secret mission by the United States military, according to American officials, at least the fourth such assault on Al Qaeda in the arid mountains and deserts of Yemen since December.
Linky dink

Lamplighter 08-16-2010 01:56 PM

Classic, that's an very good article ! Thanks

Each one of these incidents makes more enemies that it kills, and their friends and families will remember all it for generations.

classicman 08-16-2010 02:55 PM

Guess it wasn't so secret - eh?

xoxoxoBruce 08-16-2010 05:10 PM

No it wasn't, I knew about it shortly after it happened. :confused:

classicman 08-16-2010 06:28 PM

well then stay away from my virgins up there.
Hey, who is your ISP? Godlink?

xoxoxoBruce 08-16-2010 09:11 PM

It was on the web, as a matter of fact it was predicted, we would strike in Yemen, although some said Israel would do it. Maybe they did?

classicman 08-16-2010 10:22 PM

whatever - just stay away from my virgins - you dog.

xoxoxoBruce 08-16-2010 10:24 PM

No, dogs are harram.

lookout123 08-17-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 676874)
Classic, that's an very good article ! Thanks

Each one of these incidents makes more enemies that it kills, and their friends and families will remember all it for generations.

The obvious answer to that problem is bigger bombs.

Lamplighter 08-17-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 677042)
The obvious answer to that problem is bigger bombs.

It seems someone has already given an answer to this here

lookout123 08-17-2010 02:36 PM

So you're saying we should use bigger bombs on a guy who sang a crap song?

Pico and ME 08-23-2010 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 677048)
It seems someone has already given an answer to this here

:biggrinlo

Holly3278 09-05-2010 12:03 AM

This doesn't surprise me in the least bit. I wouldn't doubt it if the US military is engaged in other "secret" anti-terrorism activities around the world.

xoxoxoBruce 09-05-2010 01:48 AM

Welcome to the Cellar, Holly3278. :D
It's been a pretty open secret that the government has been working covertly, since at least since WW I.

TheMercenary 09-06-2010 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Holly3278 (Post 680715)
This doesn't surprise me in the least bit. I wouldn't doubt it if the US military is engaged in other "secret" anti-terrorism activities around the world.

:fumette: I would certainly hope so, and expect it!

Lamplighter 09-26-2010 10:05 PM

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Repeated U.S. drone strikes could spark another round of terrorist attacks in Pakistan

ISLAMABAD, Sept. 26 (Xinhua) --

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At least nine people were killed and another two injured in three U.S. drone strikes
launched on Sunday evening in Pakistan's northwest tribal area of North Waziristan,
reported local media.
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The third strike launched by U.S. drones on Sunday evening counts for the eighth of its kind over the past week.
Starting from last Sunday, the U.S. drones have apparently stepped up its strike
against the militants hiding in Pakistan's northwest tribal areas of North Waziristan and South Waziristan.
So far over 40 people including some important militant leaders have reportedly been killed in the strikes since last Sunday.
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The so-called precision strikes of the U.S. drones against militants have also mistakenly killed many other innocent people.
There are reports saying that the death ratio of militants killed against civilians in such strikes stands at about 1 against 25,
leading to a strong anti-American sentiment in the country.


xoxoxoBruce 09-26-2010 10:11 PM

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The so-called precision strikes of the U.S. drones against militants have also mistakenly killed many other innocent people.
There are reports saying that the death ratio of militants killed against civilians in such strikes stands at about 1 against 25,
leading to a strong anti-American sentiment in the country.
Who's doing the counting, the Taliban? They're probably claiming the strikes are setting Korans on fire too. Maybe the people will get the hint, don't harbor, or even hang with, Taliban leaders.

classicman 09-27-2010 08:08 AM

I'm with Bruce - LEARN PEOPLE. If you hang with, harbor, or provide for them YOU are at risk.

Happy Monkey 09-27-2010 10:41 AM

Heh, that's the Taliban strategy, too.

xoxoxoBruce 09-27-2010 02:09 PM

It certainly is, so they should understand.

spudcon 09-28-2010 09:08 PM

I thought that's been our strategy from the beginning. If you harbor terrorists, it's your fault if you wake up without an ass. If people are afraid to give comfort to the terrorists, eventually they'll have nowhere to go, except straight to hell.

TheMercenary 09-28-2010 10:28 PM

I have no problem with it. I am actually surprised that Obama has the balls to authorize it.

classicman 09-28-2010 11:06 PM

Meanwhile the GOP and some of its ranks can't friggin decide if they are for or against it. idiots

xoxoxoBruce 09-28-2010 11:22 PM

They haven't been told what to think yet.

ZenGum 09-29-2010 07:46 AM

Grab 'em by the balls, and the hearts and minds will follow - is that the plan?

Fear lasts until we turn our backs. Hatred lingers for years.

xoxoxoBruce 09-29-2010 02:01 PM

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Grab 'em by the balls, and the hearts and minds will follow - is that the plan?
Their hearts and minds are a lost cause, kill them.

Urbane Guerrilla 10-08-2010 11:27 PM

Seeing as this is the first time I've ever seen you be a hawk, Bruce, I have to suspect there's satire here.

BTW, I'm reading Rove now. Sets the record straight about quite a few things.

xoxoxoBruce 10-09-2010 12:50 AM

That's because you're so busy filibustering. I've never opposed killing our aggressors, I just oppose your strategy of killing everyone who might, maybe, sometime in the future, think about becoming our aggressors.

Lamplighter 01-23-2011 09:09 AM

Here's an article for all the James Bond wanna-be's.

It impresses me how Fox News and it's commentators are portrayed as conveyors
and participants in this man's activities, including:
Oliver North and Glen Beck along with bloggers Brad Thor and Andrew Breitbart

NY Times
Former Spy With Agenda Operates a Private C.I.A.
By MARK MAZZETTI
Published: January 22, 2011

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WASHINGTON — Duane R. Clarridge parted company with the
Central Intelligence Agency more than two decades ago,
but from poolside at his home near San Diego, he still runs a network of spies.
<snip>
Hatching schemes that are something of a cross between a Graham Greene novel and
Mad Magazine’s “Spy vs. Spy,” Mr. Clarridge has sought to discredit Ahmed Wali Karzai,
the Kandahar power broker who has long been on the C.I.A. payroll, and planned
to set spies on his half brother, the Afghan president, Hamid Karzai,
in hopes of collecting beard trimmings or other DNA samples that might prove
Mr. Clarridge’s suspicions that the Afghan leader was a heroin addict, associates say.
<snip>

Mr. Clarridge, 78, who was indicted on charges of lying to Congress in the Iran-contra scandal
and later pardoned, is described by those who have worked with him as
driven by the conviction that Washington is bloated with bureaucrats and lawyers
who impede American troops in fighting adversaries and that leaders
are overly reliant on mercurial allies.

From his days running secret wars for the C.I.A. in Central America to his consulting work
in the 1990s on a plan to insert Special Operations troops in Iraq to oust Saddam Hussein,
Mr. Clarridge has been an unflinching cheerleader for American intervention overseas.

“Sometimes, unfortunately, things have to be changed in a rather ugly way,” said Mr. Clarridge,
his New England accent becoming more pronounced the angrier he became.
“We’ll intervene whenever we decide it’s in our national security interests to intervene.”
“Get used to it, world,” he said. “We’re not going to put up with nonsense.”


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Charles E. Allen, a former top intelligence official at the Department of Homeland Security
who worked with Mr. Clarridge at the C.I.A., termed him an “extraordinary”
case officer who had operated on “the edge of his skis” in missions abroad years ago.
But he warned against Mr. Clarridge’s recent activities, saying that private spies operating in war zones
“can get both nations in trouble and themselves in trouble.”
He added, “We don’t need privateers.”

<snip>
He [Clarridge] was indicted in 1991 on charges of lying to Congress about his role
in the Iran-contra scandal; he had testified that he was unaware of arms shipments to Iran.
But he was pardoned the next year by the first President George Bush.

Griff 01-23-2011 09:36 AM

As for Mr. Clarridge, American law prohibits private citizens from actively undermining a foreign government, but prosecutions under the so-called Neutrality Act have historically been limited to people raising private armies against foreign powers. Legal experts said Mr. Clarridge’s plans against the Afghan president fell in a gray area, but would probably not violate the law.

Don't you just love super-patriots, who love our way of life so much they'll play it fast and loose with our rule of law. They always seem to think the other people are the Washington insiders.

TheMercenary 01-23-2011 02:45 PM

...described by those who have worked with him as
driven by the conviction that Washington is bloated with bureaucrats and lawyers
who impede American troops in fighting adversaries and that leaders
are overly reliant on mercurial allies.


Hard to argue with that.


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