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xoxoxoBruce 11-06-2010 01:51 PM

The Truth About Cats & Dogs
 
Well maybe. At least the truth as one reporter has ascertained.
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Cat people really are different from dog people, it turns out, according to a study that really was conducted and, presumably, really did receive some kind of funding. Specifically: dog people are more extrovert and agreeable; cat people are more neurotic, but also more open to new experiences. As a cat person, though currently petless, I accept that trade-off.

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Restricting the discussion to pet-keeping, however, you might imagine things would be clearer – everyone knows pets make us happier and healthier. Who'd argue with that? Well, a fair few anthrozoologists, in fact. (Which is rather awkward and irritating of them. They must be cat people.) Herzog notes that pet ownership has been shown to correlate with better survival in coronary patients and lower levels of depression among the elderly; then again, a Warwick University study found no effect on loneliness in adults, while a Finnish one found pet owners got less exercise and were more susceptible to kidney disease, arthritis and more. Studies of "therapy animals" are similarly ambiguous: dogs seem to bring psychological benefits, dolphins don't.

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Yet to say that our relationships with pets are all in our heads isn't necessarily to denigrate them. Isn't the same true, ultimately, about our relationships with humans, too? There's even an argument that animals' lack of language enriches the interaction, freeing it from the complexities and confusion of thought, leaving only wordless clarity. As the spiritual teacher Eckhart Tolle puts it: "I have lived with several Zen masters – all of them cats."

Gravdigr 11-06-2010 04:11 PM

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There's even an argument that animals' lack of language enriches the interaction, freeing it from the complexities and confusion of thought, leaving only wordless clarity.
"What do you want, Slick?"

meow

"You wanna bite?"

meow

"You wanna drink?"

meow

"You wanna go out?"

meow

"What do you want?"

meow

"What do you WANT?"

meow

"WHAT DO YOU WANT?!"

meow

"WHAT DO YOU WANT?!?!"

meow

"WHAT IS IT??!!?! WHAT DO YOU WANT?!?! SHUT UP!! STOP FUCKING MEOWING YOU GODDAMNED CURSE ON HUMANITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT?!?!?!?!?!? DOOOOOOOOO???????? YOOOOUUUUU????????? WAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNTT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

meow

Clarity. Yeah, right.

Sundae 11-07-2010 02:34 PM

Now that sounds like my conversation with Diz today.

Mia was in her room, Diz had just eaten dinner.
He had clean, fresh water (he always does, but this was just topped-up), fresh litter, his drawer under my bed was open and the heating pad was on. The heater under the stairs (another sleeping/ watching spot) was available and my Mum was available for snuggles in the living room where the fire was on. As was I, reading in my (unheated) bedroom on a rainy, cold November day. I even checked if he wanted to go out.

Nope.
Waow! Woaw! Waow! up and down the stairs and at the ceiling, walls and doors.

He's calmed down now of course.
I'm in the spare room and he is on my shoulder, digging his spindly death claws into me.

monster 11-07-2010 07:33 PM

That's how most of my conversations with the cats go. But at least i know my vocal chords still work on thiose long home-alone days.....

wolf 11-07-2010 07:54 PM

I don't know how the reader benefits from the absurd comment about dolphins. I can easily experience the therapeutic benefits of having a dog in my apartment. I don't have room, or the fish budget, to keep a dolphin. Most pet therapists can't either. And they're hard to crate up to carry in to a hospital for the patients to enjoy.

Clodfobble 11-07-2010 10:25 PM

OMG, that explains everything. Turns out my daughter is a cat.

Clodfobble 11-07-2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
I don't know how the reader benefits from the absurd comment about dolphins. I can easily experience the therapeutic benefits of having a dog in my apartment. I don't have room, or the fish budget, to keep a dolphin. Most pet therapists can't either. And they're hard to crate up to carry in to a hospital for the patients to enjoy.

Dolphin therapy is a burgeoning industry. Semi-local places like Sea World will sell you one-on-one hours with their various animals at a steep rate, and if you want to go a step further you can travel to dedicated "clinics" in the Caribbean and such. I have a magnet for one place on my fridge (got it for free somewhere, and I can always use extra magnets.)

xoxoxoBruce 11-07-2010 11:05 PM

You mean like this.

wolf 11-07-2010 11:14 PM

When I went to Disney last year, most of my friends signed up for the Dolphin encounter at Sea World. Your $300 bucks got you a half hour with the dolphin who might not like you, lunch, all the Annheiser Busch products you could drink (they own the park), and an unlimited entry pass to the park that was valid for one week. There was a souvenir DVD, but I don't know if that was part of the package or your had to pay extra for it. I think the bunch (six of my friends went) only came back with one DVD. I do not know who got custody of it.

I didn't think it was worth $300, especially since, as it turned out, I was cranky, irritable, and craving chocolate at the time.

Juniper 11-07-2010 11:26 PM

Oh, that reminds me of a YouTube video . . .

No, not THAT cat. Not this time. :D



Although now that I think of it, Cat Stevens did do a song called "Katmandu" :D

Aliantha 11-08-2010 03:29 AM

We have cats AND dogs. What does that mean?

capnhowdy 11-08-2010 07:37 AM

Bob Seager did "Katmandu". I've never hear Stevens' rendition.

capnhowdy 11-08-2010 07:41 AM

I have heard it now. Great song. Juniper helped me learn something today. Thanks.

Getgo 11-09-2010 07:30 PM

I prefer dogs but recently I've become interested in cats. I'd like to own one of each to appreciate their personalities.

monster 11-10-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 693232)
OMG, that explains everything. Turns out my daughter is a cat.

:lol: does she sit on your paperwork?

monster 11-10-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 693249)
We have cats AND dogs. What does that mean?

bi-polar. You need to buy polar bears.

J.D.DIAMOND 11-13-2010 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Getgo (Post 693534)
I prefer dogs but recently I've become interested in cats. I'd like to own one of each to appreciate their personalities.

Hey Getgo for a short introduction my name is J.D.DIAMOND,I see you've recently become interested in cats,I have two of them 13 years old.

And now at age 40 I'm getting my first dog,a German Shepherd,when he gets big nobody will try and break into my house again ha!

xoxoxoBruce 11-13-2010 11:17 AM

Don't bet on it, he may trade your TV for a Tbone. :haha:

Oh, and welcome to the Cellar.

Sundae 11-13-2010 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by J.D.DIAMOND (Post 694055)
Hey Getgo for a short introduction my name is J.D.DIAMOND,I see you've recently become interested in cats,I have two of them 13 years old.

And now at age 40 I'm getting my first dog,a German Shepherd,when he gets big nobody will try and break into my house again ha!

Welcome.
I've been interested in cats all my life. I suspect Bruce has been a connoisseur of pussy for a while too...

I'm not sure German Shepherds prevent all break-ins. There are times off for Leiderhosen, sheep and beer you know...

J.D.DIAMOND 11-13-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 694078)
Don't bet on it, he may trade your TV for a Tbone. :haha:

Oh, and welcome to the Cellar.

Thanks for the welcome Bruce I really appreciate it alot and Hey wow,I never thought of that....well hopefully he will look intimidating enough.

J.D.DIAMOND 11-13-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 694106)
Welcome.
I've been interested in cats all my life. I suspect Bruce has been a connoisseur of pussy for a while too...

I'm not sure German Shepherds prevent all break-ins. There are times off for Leiderhosen, sheep and beer you know...

Thanks for the welcome also Sundae Girl,yeah I have a Norwegian black forest cat,his hair is long and he is a smoked grey and black color. My other cat is an orange type of color,they are both 13 years old.

And yeah as I was saying to Bruce,I just hope he looks mean lol. I do have an alarm system now,but I wanted a dog anyways,so I'm not just getting one for security.It is a lot of work and time,but I have it so why not ya know.

Juniper 11-14-2010 02:10 AM

This is Maverick.

http://www.wayswriter.com/pam/mavsm.jpg

Yeah, bring it on. :D

We love them, J.D. Germies are wonderful dogs. BUT--they do require serious training. Ours came pre-trained, since we adopted him when he was 4. GSD's are much too smart to be good pets without an investment in an expert training program. He's got a great personality but is still very high-strung; taking him anyplace, even up the street to the vet, is a challenge.

I trust him 100% with family and friends - he'd never bite anyone on purpose. Bad guys? Anyone's guess!


http://www.wayswriter.com/pam/mav.jpg

Glinda 11-14-2010 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 693234)
You mean like this.

I don't think that dolphin is horny. I think it smells FISH. :D

J.D.DIAMOND 11-15-2010 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Juniper (Post 694160)
This is Maverick.

http://www.wayswriter.com/pam/mavsm.jpg

Yeah, bring it on. :D

We love them, J.D. Germies are wonderful dogs. BUT--they do require serious training. Ours came pre-trained, since we adopted him when he was 4. GSD's are much too smart to be good pets without an investment in an expert training program. He's got a great personality but is still very high-strung; taking him anyplace, even up the street to the vet, is a challenge.

I trust him 100% with family and friends - he'd never bite anyone on purpose. Bad guys? Anyone's guess!


http://www.wayswriter.com/pam/mav.jpg

Juniper did your German Shepherd grow up with cats? I have been doing a lot of homework(research)on German Shepherds and so far everybody has told me that they do have an instinct to chase stray cats,but not the cats they grew up with as a puppie if they are trained correctly.

xoxoxoBruce 11-15-2010 08:36 AM

The can be trained not to mess with kitty roommates. They've got to be introduced, and both be made aware that they're going to have to get use to it. Granted a dog can kill a cat in an all out battle, but in small skirmishes the dog will likely come out on the short end, with a sliced up nose/ears, and maybe blind.

Sundae 11-15-2010 10:21 AM

I doubt I could introduce any dog to Diz.
He's hated every cat he's met (with the exception of St Dylan, but he came from the same home after all). I doubt he'd back down regardless of the potential threat - which could be fatal. My cat is made up of fur and charm and piss and vinegar.

In some ways it might be good for him to have a larger, scarier, noisier housemate... But then I figure I fulfill that function anyway.

Juniper 11-15-2010 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by J.D.DIAMOND (Post 694295)
Juniper did your German Shepherd grow up with cats? I have been doing a lot of homework(research)on German Shepherds and so far everybody has told me that they do have an instinct to chase stray cats,but not the cats they grew up with as a puppie if they are trained correctly.

Nope. As I said, we got him at age 4, and his previous owners didn't have cats.

He has killed at least two, maybe three stray cats in our yard. But I'm sure he was only fulfilling his role of protector, and the cats were after our chickens. It's a big fenced yard - those cats shoulda known better!

He isn't so tough with the cats inside our house, though. We have 5 of them. Every now and then he acts a little bit - what's the word, *offended* by their presence. But he's accepted them, for the most part and leaves them be. But our cats stay inside, and I have no doubt that if they were to get out into the yard, he'd chase them just the same as the strays. I think this is due more to the prey instinct being triggered by a cat running away, something they can't really do in the house so much.

J.D.DIAMOND 11-15-2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Juniper (Post 694377)
Nope. As I said, we got him at age 4, and his previous owners didn't have cats.

He has killed at least two, maybe three stray cats in our yard. But I'm sure he was only fulfilling his role of protector, and the cats were after our chickens. It's a big fenced yard - those cats shoulda known better!

He isn't so tough with the cats inside our house, though. We have 5 of them. Every now and then he acts a little bit - what's the word, *offended* by their presence. But he's accepted them, for the most part and leaves them be. But our cats stay inside, and I have no doubt that if they were to get out into the yard, he'd chase them just the same as the strays. I think this is due more to the prey instinct being triggered by a cat running away, something they can't really do in the house so much.

Hey good information Bruce and Sundae Girl.

Thanks Juniper,yeah this is what I've heard many times,so yeah if I train the dog the right way,I shouldn't have any problems,because my 2 cats are inside cats,not allowed outside. Thanks for the information.

Gravdigr 07-26-2016 04:47 PM

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Lola Bunny 08-13-2016 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 693089)
"What do you want, Slick?"

meow

"You wanna bite?"

meow

"You wanna drink?"

meow

"You wanna go out?"

meow

"What do you want?"

meow

"What do you WANT?"

meow

"WHAT DO YOU WANT?!"

meow

"WHAT DO YOU WANT?!?!"

meow

"WHAT IS IT??!!?! WHAT DO YOU WANT?!?! SHUT UP!! STOP FUCKING MEOWING YOU GODDAMNED CURSE ON HUMANITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT?!?!?!?!?!? DOOOOOOOOO???????? YOOOOUUUUU????????? WAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNTT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

meow

Clarity. Yeah, right.

I either have that conversation with my "step" cat or I would go:

"What are you whining about?!? STOP WHINING!!!" The cat's meow sounds whiny to me, so I get annoyed by it. :p:

I'm the cats' "stepmother." Therefore, they are my "step-cat." :D

Gravdigr 08-13-2016 05:20 PM

Stepcat. Love it.

Gravdigr 09-26-2016 01:18 PM

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xoxoxoBruce 09-26-2016 08:17 PM

YES! :thumb:


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