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BigV 11-22-2010 02:29 PM

D-Day
 
It is getting closer each day.

Aliantha 11-23-2010 06:45 PM

Divorce day?

Lamplighter 11-23-2010 07:14 PM

Drummer's Day ?

Griff 11-24-2010 08:27 AM

Dalliance Day, let freedom ring, ringless!

Gravdigr 11-29-2010 05:14 AM

Death Day is getting closer each day.

BigV 11-29-2010 01:58 PM

True, but it's not today.

Neither is D-Day.

Soon, soon, I promise.

Spexxvet 11-29-2010 02:34 PM

D. Day:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3437/...d06b8d.jpg?v=0

"Ramming speed!"

BigV 11-29-2010 03:10 PM

His virtuoso performance of "The William Tell Overture" is SonofV's favorite scene. He can do it a little, but it needs more practice.

Gravdigr 11-29-2010 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 697035)
True, but it's not today.

Day ain't over yet.

TheMercenary 11-30-2010 04:18 AM

Day is just starting.

xoxoxoBruce 11-30-2010 12:29 PM

The day is half gone(EST).

monster 11-30-2010 01:10 PM

D is only a third of Day, though

Gravdigr 11-30-2010 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 697301)
D is only a third of Day, though

:notworthy

BigV 11-30-2010 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 696954)
Death Day is getting closer each day.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 697035)
True, but it's not today.

Neither is D-Day.

Soon, soon, I promise.

I wish to revise my answer.

D-Day is coming, and it will be here soon. I can say so with confidence, because I know the date.

Death Day, not so much. If an event is in the future, at some unknown and undefined time, how can I say it's getting closer? Of course I accept the inevitability of own death. But how can I tell if it isn't simply receding as fast (or faster!) than I approach it? And if it is, then isn't it the case that it is NOT approaching?

/end of thought exercise

glatt 11-30-2010 04:02 PM

"shorter of breath, and one day closer to death."

monster 11-30-2010 05:37 PM

Wouldn't it be a bugger if it was diarrea day? If you knew it was coming and there was nothing you could do about it except stay near the lav...

Lamplighter 11-30-2010 09:33 PM

Maybe or maybe not it is BigV's D-Day...
but tomorrow, Dec 1st, is DADT Report day from the Dept of Defense

Let the games begin !

classicman 11-30-2010 09:58 PM

The report was out today....
Quote:

WASHINGTON – On the 17th anniversary of President Bill Clinton’s signing of the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy, the Pentagon just minutes ago released a multimillion-dollar survey of the troops that shows overwhelming support for allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly.

Some of the key findings:

* 92% of troops who worked alongside people they believe are gay said their experience was very good, good or neutral.

* 74% of troop spouses say DADT repeal would have no impact on their view of whether their spouses should continue to serve. This refutes the contention by repeal opponents that families would be concerned that their spouses would be working alongside gays.

* 84% of Marine combat units who worked alongside those they believed were gay said the experience was very good, good or neutral.

* 70% of troops believe that DADT repeal would have mixed, positive or not effect.

* 30% of troops think that DADT repeal would have negative results.

* The risk of repeal of DADT to overall military effectiveness is low.

* Repeal would not create widespread or long-lasting problems in the military. This would counter concerns from those who worry that the troops would be resistant to change.

Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen, accompanied by DOD General Counsel Jeh C. Johnson and U.S. Army Gen. Carter F. Ham, conducted a news conference at the Pentagon to talk about the Comprehensive Review Work Group report.

Gates said that a strong majority – more than two-thirds of troops – don’t object to serving with gays and lesbians. He also said there was a “low risk” of problems by repealing the policy.

He highly recommended that Congress repeal DADT so that a thorough, thoughtful preparation can be made to implement the process of changing the policy.

Gates pointed to recent court challenges to DADT as a reason for Congress to pass the legislation, saying that Congress would be “rolling the dice” that judicial intervention won’t occur. DADT was ruled unconstitutional earlier this year by a federal judge in California, a decision that is now appeals all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

He said the Pentagon would need time to prepare to do the job right, and that the courts could force an immediate end to the policy and cause massive disruptions to the armed forces.

Mullen added three key points to what Gates said. He said strong leadership from top to bottom of the chain of command was necessary to make the change successful and smooth. He said it was important to maintain high standards of conduct and honor. And he stressed the need for an orderly change of policy, not one forced by the courts.

“I hope we spend as much time on the implementation plan as we did on the working group report,” Mullen said.

Twenty-five nations allow open service by gays and lesbians and all of them have implemented repeal of their bans without major disruptions – including close allies such as the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and Israel.
Link

Gravdigr 12-02-2010 03:52 PM

Can you think of anything scarier than a big, gay Marine coming at you with love in his eyes? :love::bolt:

I really don't have an opinion here, as I am not affected in the least. By DADT, or big, gay Marines. Just trying to find the humor.

:D

monster 12-02-2010 08:54 PM

DADT? wasn't that a weedkiller that caused birth deformities? or is that AT&T?

HungLikeJesus 12-05-2010 09:50 PM

I thought it was a form of birth control.

footfootfoot 12-05-2010 11:00 PM

No, that's DCIM: Dont Come Inside Me

Gravdigr 12-06-2010 02:17 AM

Wasn't that DFFC? Don't Fuck Fertile Chicks?

BigV 12-08-2010 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 695630)
It is getting closer each day.

It is here!

Today is D-Day.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 695843)
Divorce day?

No more callers, please, we have a BINGO.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff (Post 695919)
Dalliance Day, let freedom ring, ringless!

"Ringless"??? A bit of foreshadowing there, Griff? You get the consolation prize.

Today is my one year Divorce Anniversary. (Divorce-rary?)

Actually, the prize metaphor falls apart when I consider how much my life has changed over the past couple years. /begin flashback/

Tink and I met and married and raised our kids and all was well. But our lives changed, our kids and our circumstances changed. We changed. This is normal, unsurprising. But our relational habits didn't change, we didn't adapt to our new realities. This, then, became the source of considerable tension. Many of you were witness to this, felt some of the shockwaves of the conflict in our marriage. I can report from ground zero that it sucked worse than everything else I'd ever endured. I wouldn't wish that kind of pain on a snake.

It was a long time coming. In Aug of 2007 she filed for divorce. It was something of an ambush and while that filing was ultimately unsuccessful, our bond was fractured, never to be mended. We reconciled and spent several months actually happy to be together again. You all witnessed some of this, too. Most of 2008 was pretty good. Toward the end of the year, the shine on our marriage wore off for Tink, though I would not know this until the new year. In Jan 2009, Tink told me once again she wanted a divorce, this time in person.

The strain of the previous divorce filing was so great and the length of our reconciliation was so short, that I could not, would not battle her again to preserve our marriage. Funny choice of words, eh? That's what the first reconciliation felt like. But by this time, I was out of gas. I acceeded to her wishes. So began almost a year of mortal combat about the dissolution of our marriage.

I don't feel like recounting all the details of this harrowing journey here. It was terrible. I felt terrible. I had felt I had no experience or tools to deal with my impending singleness. My whole world was positively gravid with change, and I did *not* want to be born.

But those new babies are born nonetheless, wailing and screaming in powerless protest at the blinding, icy change thrust upon them. They complain until they're exhausted then they collapse, and so did I. Their exercise and experience makes them stronger, and so did mine. Eventually, they complain for reasons, instead of about everything, and so did I. Eventually their world changes from one of terrifying unknowns to one of wonderous mysteries, and so did mine.

Today marks the end of a one year self imposed embargo on discussing my personal life. I have experienced more wonderous mysteries this year than in the previous ten years put together. There have been many more new personal records set, and broken, and re-broken throughout the year. It is no exaggeration to say that I am a new man. There is much about me that many of you would not recognize, though some of you sagely predicted such changes.

It is late now and I am going to retire. But I wanted to take notice of this day. I want to acknowledge all those whose interest and care and input brought me to this point. Even Tink, to whom I sent a nice message today. I won't say this transition has been painless--it has been anything but painless. But pain is instructive. And now I bear the scars from my experience, healed scars. I hope that my thoughts and actions reflect some learning and wisdom I gained from my instruction.

Pete Zicato 12-08-2010 10:09 AM

Sometimes it is a great success just to survive and heal.

I'm glad you made it to the other side, V.

limey 12-08-2010 11:15 AM

What Pete said.

Spexxvet 12-08-2010 11:43 AM

Congrats, Big V, although I'm always saddened to see the end of a relationship, especially when kids are involved.

BTW, you did let the cat out of the bag a little bit.

wolf 12-08-2010 02:15 PM

Big hugs to you, BigV.

skysidhe 12-08-2010 03:18 PM

Looks like you are stronger than ever.

ditto what pete said

TheMercenary 12-11-2010 10:09 PM

Well done Big V. Much respect your way for all you have endured in the past few years to try to make it all work and preserve the bond, but in the end I cannot judge you for your efforts. I can only wish you the best in your future and remind you it can only go up from her. Hang in there mate....

DanaC 12-12-2010 08:27 AM

Congrats V.

A hard journey, but you made it through.

xoxoxoBruce 12-16-2010 04:47 AM

Been there, done that... a couple times. I'm pretty sure I understand what you've been through, and I know I understand where you're at now. Ain't it great.:D

BigV 12-17-2010 02:43 AM

You, sir, your voice, sir, has been echoing in my head for a few years now.

It *was* mean when you said it, but you were still right when you said it: "So, get from the bitch to the beach", you bastard.

You are right again, unsurprisingly. It **IS** great, you have no idea.

I thank all of you, my friends, for being excellent to each other, and to me, through the years. /bows deeply/

xoxoxoBruce 12-17-2010 06:17 AM

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I have the handbook, unfortunately it was given to me too late. :haha:

TheMercenary 12-22-2010 09:10 AM

Love the cover, looks like it was done by one of my fav artists, R. Crumb.

Congrats to V on a happy ending.

Gravdigr 12-24-2010 02:42 PM

Have you, ahem, 'reveled in your singledom'?

BigV 12-08-2011 10:31 AM

{reposted from yesterday due to technical difficulties}

Two years, today.

I thought all day about what to say to commemorate this landmark in my life, and have come up pretty empty handed. I have seen some of my friends also fall into the abyss of divorce. At least it feels that way at first. When I listened to their stories, I could empathize with their feelings of shock, but another reaction was stronger. That my current state was a testament to just how good it could be, and fairly soon after that shock wears off.

Make no mistake, it was a shock and a painful one. But my whole life is better now, everything is better now. And it's kind of a surprise because at the time, I kind of thought it was the end of the world. At least I had no idea there would be surcease to the pain, that there was an end to the stupefaction. There was indeed and I had no idea how good it would become.

My marriage lasted as long as it did, and then ended. My life continued, I continued. To my friends who are still in free fall, please, take it from me, you're flying rapidly to a much better life. Hang on!

ps, that goes for you too, Tink. Happy Divorceary!

Stormieweather 12-08-2011 12:12 PM

((((((((Big V)))))))

BigV 12-08-2011 12:26 PM

Thank you. :)

ZenGum 12-08-2011 06:44 PM

Has someone told Elspode to visit this thread?

regular.joe 12-08-2011 10:10 PM

BigV, I am also glad you are here and have travelled the path you have. Thanks for sharing it with us here.

Rrrraven 12-09-2011 08:42 PM

Crazy isn't it, how life CAN and DOES get better. Who woulda thunk? I'm incredibly happy that you're so happy.

BigV 12-09-2011 08:58 PM

:)

xoxoxoBruce 12-09-2011 09:11 PM

First I noticed how much longer the toilet paper lasted, then how much better life in general was.

DucksNuts 12-12-2011 02:06 AM

My D Day is on my birthday, so although I dont celebrate my Birthday, I definitely recognise the day the court granted my "Me-ness" back.

My Mum said to me the other day..."never understod why you got married, you were never going to, I couldnt understand it".

Yes Mum, neither do I. I was against it from a very young age but fucking immigration forced my hand.

::::grumbles, big fucking waste of money that sponorship was::::

it 01-08-2012 02:32 AM

that actually inspired me big V.

haven't gone through the legal process... i thought she was going to file for an annulment, and she pretty much has be the one since we are only registered in canada (her place) and i'm back in israel (my place)...
and part of me still hoping that she might some day decide to finish the immigration process (there's a kid involved) so i am patient with it, not exactly rushing to get married any time soon and i'm young enough to be fine with starting my economic life from scretch. not sure if there's any point in going over the divorce paperwork now. `

Big Sarge 01-08-2012 04:33 PM

While some of you revel in being single, I'm still hurting after 3 years.

it 01-08-2012 06:15 PM

...and that depressed me.

come on man, tell the divorce newbie something good...

everything you have in the fridge is something you like, right? every item in your house... and there's nobody who nags you until you hate the sound of your name, that has to be nice... and a lot of booty, right?

classicman 01-08-2012 06:38 PM

Best 5 years of my life. Lotta shit went down during that time.
Some of which was tragic and altered the lives of many people forever.
Still I wouldn't change a thing. I am with a far better person and she has
stuck by me through it all. YMMV.

xoxoxoBruce 01-08-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by traceur (Post 786074)
come on man, tell the divorce newbie something good...

You won't have to buy nearly as much toilet paper.

Aliantha 01-08-2012 06:52 PM

You have a toilet paper fixation Bruce.

it 01-08-2012 07:13 PM

stupid related enecdote, but i remember one night shift in the army we started talking about where we see ourselve's in a decade. the girls and a few of the guys where saying married, maybe with kids... i never really saw myself getting married, so at the expense of our superior officer (2 divorces) i joked that i see myself following in his footsteps and being divorced.



god thinks he's so funny...

xoxoxoBruce 01-09-2012 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 786090)
You have a toilet paper fixation Bruce.

But....

Aliantha 01-09-2012 01:16 AM

No butts...and definitely no ifs!

infinite monkey 01-09-2012 02:02 AM

Can she bake a cherry pie
Billy boy billy boy
Can she bake a cherry pie
Charming billy?
She can bake a cherry pie
Quick as a cat can wink an eye
She's a young one and cannot leave her mother

Rrrraven 01-10-2012 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 786050)
While some of you revel in being single, I'm still hurting after 3 years.

I hurt for a long time too - in varying levels.

I wouldn't say either that I reveled in being single, quite the opposite actually. I went through different stages, some fun times dating, some horrid times. Lots of times I just said forget about it for a while.

It takes as long as it takes, but if you do the work, it does get better. Really.

BigV 12-08-2015 01:52 AM

Six years today. Each better than the last one. Tink's death makes this year permanently different, but for reasons that aren't directly related to our divorce.

It has been another good year notwithstanding. Thanks to you all, thanks to my children, and thanks most of all to Twil. See you all again same time next year.

BigV 12-08-2016 01:03 AM

Seven years. Like an arrow, like an arrow.

The kids are young adults now, they got adult problems. Marriage (or divorce) isn't one of the 99, thank goodness. I've re-read this thread and this sentence struck me:

Quote:

My marriage lasted as long as it did, and then ended.
I like that. It's true, it's sensible, it's just right, but I only wish I'd been able to comprehend it before, you know....2011.

I'm a much, much better partner now than I ever have been. And a big part of the reason for that is what I've learned (that I never want to repeat) from my mistakes in my relationships in the past.

"D-Day". I crack me up. See you all next year.

Gravdigr 12-08-2016 01:56 PM

:D

BigV 12-07-2017 02:25 PM

Happy D-Day to me!

Once again, this thread brings back memories, good memories. I can remember the bad stuff too, but it just does not feel as apocalyptic now. I mean, of course it did. But maaaan... Back then, I thought I gonna die, and I was afraid I wouldn't. Horrible.

But not now. Now, Life Is Good.

Thank you, Twil!


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