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Pete Zicato 03-23-2011 09:46 AM

Firefox 4
 
I've been switching back and forth between Chrome and Firefox depending on who's faster at the moment (mostly).

I like the speed of Chrome, but I don't like the limited preferences and the lack of a regular menu bar.

Firefox 4 has bookmark sharing and is close enough in speed to Chrome to warrant changing back to Firefox.

Pico and ME 03-23-2011 09:55 AM

Does chrome have a spellcheck feature?

Pete Zicato 03-23-2011 10:35 AM

Both do.

footfootfoot 03-23-2011 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato (Post 718125)
I've been switching back and forth between Chrome and Firefox depending on who's faster at the moment (mostly).

I like the speed of Chrome, but I don't like the limited preferences and the lack of a regular menu bar.

Firefox 4 has bookmark sharing and is close enough in speed to Chrome to warrant changing back to Firefox.

I like the drop down menu of email addys that firefox has, chrome makes me select all and type in the start of the address I want.

Firefox, otoh, keeps crashing whenever flash or java starts. I've dowloaded and installed all the updates. pos.

Flint 03-23-2011 01:05 PM

I don't understand the appeal of browser "speed." I thought that ubiquitous high-speed internet had solved the problem of ever having to wait for anything to load. What exactly is bowser "speed" in a tangible sense? How is it visibly manifested?

Pete Zicato 03-23-2011 01:26 PM

Two things.

Browser start up time. In the past, Firefox was considerably slower from double clicking the icon to being ready to use than Chrome. Much less difference now.

Raw pipe speed is only part of the story. Once you have all that html on your machine, you've got to parse it and render it. (Can be recursive, of course, if there are references in the html to other documents) All that takes time. Firefox used to not be as good at it as Chrome. Again, much less so now.

Undertoad 03-23-2011 01:29 PM

Not so much in how fast words and images are displayed, but how fast Javascript is executed, how quickly Flash and Java are handled, that sort of thing. For AJAXy web pages like ESPN where there are all sorts of dynamically-generated menus dropping down and ads playing while at the same time Flash video is playing, and there are wildly different mouseovers for every link on the page.

But mostly how it loads in 2 seconds instead of 10 seconds when you start it. Firefox 4 has caught up in that regard, it now loads in 3.5 seconds.

Undertoad 03-23-2011 01:30 PM

There ya go. It takes Pete less formatting time and fewer sentences to render the same opinion. Pete is Chrome 10 and I am FF 3.6.

Flint 03-23-2011 01:38 PM

I never would have figured startup time, as IE simply pops open and there it is.

HungLikeJesus 03-23-2011 01:53 PM

One feature of FF4 that I just found is Panorama:

Quote:

Panorama is a new feature that allows you to group and organize your tabs by task. In addition, it offers beautiful eye candy and an attractive interface.
http://www.techairlines.com/2010/08/...ab-management/

I use it to keep separate tabs for research, news and reviews.

Pete Zicato 03-23-2011 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint (Post 718167)
I never would have figured startup time, as IE simply pops open and there it is.

Well, yeah. But you're not counting the time it then takes to close it back up and open a useable browser. :D

Gravdigr 03-23-2011 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 718140)
Firefox, otoh, keeps crashing whenever flash or java starts. I've dowloaded and installed all the updates. pos.

I can count the times Firefox has crashed on me on one hand, and have fingers left over. IE? Hundreds, if not thousands.

:firefox:

skysidhe 03-24-2011 08:35 AM

I switched to Chrome a while ago. Firefox was having some issues. I didn't like Chrome at first but after adding extensions it feels more useful. I am quite at home with it now.

I have a bookmark bar, A bookmark drop down menu,speed dial which has the option of including extra pages up to 9 rows and 9 columns.

It is fast but that isn't the reason I have it.


This conversation reminds me, My internet provider tries to sell me extra fast speed internet, or blast internet as they call it. I say, my internet is fast enough, which for me it is.

Cloud 03-24-2011 02:16 PM

dammit, where is the "view page style" that strips out the fancy stuff? (not the page source, the page style)

Gravdigr 03-24-2011 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 718140)
Firefox, otoh, keeps crashing whenever flash or java starts. I've dowloaded and installed all the updates. pos.

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 714078)

Is teh funneh!!

Cloud 03-24-2011 07:04 PM

okay, I tried it and can't use it. It doesn't have the ability (that I can see) to view pages in "basic" style, and more seriously, I can't use it with my delicious tags.

so, anyone know how I "undownload" version 4 and go back to the previous version?

glatt 03-25-2011 02:15 PM

I updated to Firefox 4 and have but one complaint. I've got the Google toolbar installed, and the search history in the drop down menu of the query window is not accessible by mouse. You can see your previous search terms, but when you click on them, it does nothing. The only way to access them is to click on the drop down arrow and then use the arrow keys on your keyboard to select the search term you want, and then hit enter to select it. It's an annoying bug. I didn't realize how often I accessed that search history until it stopped working.

Cloud 03-25-2011 03:45 PM

hmm. On mine, there's a bright orange drop down box in the upper left corner. When you click on it, you can click on the history, then click a history item.

Cloud 03-28-2011 09:58 PM

it's apparently done away with the option to save your tabs before closing. wtf?

HungLikeJesus 03-28-2011 11:26 PM

Under Tools> Options > General > Startup
choose "Show my tabs and windows from last time."

It doesn't ask you anymore, it just does it.

Cloud 03-28-2011 11:53 PM

okay, wise guru--what about the View Menu? No option to view a page as a "basic" style?

Happy Monkey 03-29-2011 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 719241)
it's apparently done away with the option to save your tabs before closing. wtf?

If you close with the red X, it asks. If you use the Firefox menu to exit, it doesn't. I got burned by that.

Pete Zicato 03-29-2011 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 719308)
If you close with the red X, it asks. If you use the Firefox menu to exit, it doesn't. I got burned by that.

Sounds like a bug. Submit it here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/

Gravdigr 04-01-2011 03:23 PM

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Cloud 04-04-2011 05:14 PM

finally found the toolbar with the "view" menu. good.

Cloud 04-08-2011 11:06 PM

don't like where the refresh button is. some random place in the middle . . .


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