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Nirvana 06-01-2011 05:56 PM

Wiener's wiener
 
who would want ...a picture of Wiener's wiener? :greenface
Sheldon can you weigh in on this???? ;)
LINK
Rep. Weiner uncertain whether lewd photo was of him

(Reuters) - New York Congressman Anthony Weiner said on Wednesday that he did not send a lewd photo over his Twitter account but cannot be sure that the photo was not of him.

"It certainly doesn't look familiar to me, but I don't want to say with certitude to you something that I don't know to be the certain truth," Weiner told CNN in an interview.

"I didn't send any twitter picture," he said, adding that the photo might have been manipulated.

Weiner has said his account was hacked when a lewd photo of a man in bulging boxer briefs was tweeted to a 21-year-old female college student in Washington state over the weekend.

"This seems like it was a prank to make fun of my name," Weiner said. "When you are named Weiner, that happens a lot."

Weiner's office told Reuters on Tuesday that the New York congressman, who has a high profile as an advocate of liberal causes, had hired an attorney to advise him on whether or not he could press criminal charges as a result of the alleged hack of his Twitter account.

"This is not a national security matter," Weiner said. "We're not making a federal case out of this....I'm not sure it rises -- no pun intended -- to that level," he said.

Weiner said that the law firm he hired has an Internet security firm that is investigating how his account was hacked.

He declined to say whether there actually was a photo of him in his undies like the one sent to the student.

"This is part of the problem with the way this has progressed, and one of the reasons I was perhaps, forgive me, a little stiff yesterday," Weiner told reporters on Capitol Hill.

The student, Gennette Cordova, issued a statement to the New York Daily News that denied she personally knew Weiner but said, "I am a fan."

Weiner had tens of thousands of followers on twitter before the weekend's incident. In contrast, Weiner was following 198 people.
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He is not attractive and his tidy whities do nothing for me

Trilby 06-01-2011 06:33 PM

Huh. It's a picture of a fully clothed weiner.

yawn.

ZenGum 06-01-2011 11:41 PM

In other news, Chinese-American politician Dong Wang* has withdrawn from the presidential nomination race. No reason was cited.


* I know a person with this name. Really.

classicman 06-02-2011 07:51 AM

Strangely enough he was making jokes about it in interviews while it was being reported that at the same time he is outraged ad seeking legal counsel on whether to sue or whatever.

I find it weird that he didn't immediately deny that it was his "package." Unless he is really that unfamiliar with his own body or he actually does take pictures of it. Either option seems a little "odd."

infinite monkey 06-02-2011 07:53 AM

So, what's next (drum roll):

Boehner's Boner?

(For those who don't know it's pronounced Bay-ner. But still.)

Sundae 06-02-2011 08:17 AM

No link I've followed has shown me any cock :(

I mean I'm not desperate for it.
It's just when it's a SCANDAL you think you'd get at least a bit of turgidity.

infinite monkey 06-02-2011 08:20 AM

It's a cockamamie story.

Poppycock!

It's cocktroversial and uncockrroberated.

In fact, it's unsupported.

*snicker*

glatt 06-02-2011 08:44 AM

This thread is no good without the picture.
I think it's SFW, but I hid it behind a link just in case.

infinite monkey 06-02-2011 08:46 AM

See, no supporter!

TheMercenary 06-02-2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirvana (Post 737765)
who would want ...a picture of Wiener's wiener? :greenface
Sheldon can you weigh in on this???? ;)
LINK
Rep. Weiner uncertain whether lewd photo was of him

(Reuters) -

I love it!

Not even Reuters has the balls to mention his party affiliation. Imagine that! :rolleyes:

wolf 06-02-2011 06:03 PM

Who is the ugly chick whose picture heads the tweet?

Speaking of tweeters ... isn't that a euphemism that's fallen out of use?

TheMercenary 06-02-2011 06:11 PM

I think Viagra ought to pick up the pic and use it in a commercial, I mean since he can't say it is his cock he couldn't claim copyrights.... :)

classicman 06-02-2011 07:45 PM

Quote:

"If I'm a lawyer, and I'm representing a politician, in general, it's not against the law to lie to the media. It's not against the law to lie to your constituents. It is against the law to lie to law enforcement authorities," he said. "Martha Stewart went to jail not for insider trading, but for lying. Barry Bonds gets charged, goes to trial, not for using steroids - for lying about it. So if I'm a lawyer looking at a case such as this, I'm going to be real careful before I let my clients talk to law enforcement authorities, because I don't want to find my client, you know, jammed up here criminally because, despite what happened here, they're not telling the truth."

Ford said the content of the tweet also has to be considered.

"There are laws against sending out pornography on your account," he explained. "People will look at this and say, 'This might be really distasteful, but it's not pornographic.' You know, the young lady, if she felt she was being harassed in some fashion. But she hasn't expressed that. And you might say one instance of something like this wouldn't rise to that level, either. I don't think you're really talking about possible criminal activity there."

However, this situation may escalate to an investigation by an ethics committee, Ford said.
Read more:
hmm...

classicman 06-02-2011 07:47 PM

Quote:

"So assuming that it was a picture of you, because I think that that's the conclusion that a lot of people are going to draw? Do you think that someone knew that you had a photo like that in your account and then knew enough of your account information to be able to hack into it and send it?"

Weiner said, "Look this is exactly the problem that we have with this issue. And I just want you to respect the idea that at some point the questions can get more, and more and more invasive and bizarre."
Why couldn't he just answer the question? This is starting to get interesting.

TheMercenary 06-02-2011 08:03 PM

Why do so many of these reports never mention his party affiliation?

SamIam 06-02-2011 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 737981)
Why do so many of these reports never mention his party affiliation?

Probably because a mention of Weiner's party affiliation would naturally segue into a discussion about the political leanings of right wing blogger Andrew Breitbart who broke the story. God forbid that Faux and Co. might have to report on the misdeeds of a member of the conservative hyena pack. :eyebrow:

TheMercenary 06-02-2011 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamIam (Post 737995)
Probably because a mention of Weiner's party affiliation would naturally segue into a discussion about the political leanings of right wing blogger Andrew Breitbart who broke the story. God forbid that Faux and Co. might have to report on the misdeeds of a member of the conservative hyena pack. :eyebrow:

True dat.

If that is true I would give huge props to Breitbart for exposing his waffling. So far I have nothing short of "It could be my dick, but maybe not". That should go over well in the next election.

TheMercenary 06-02-2011 08:58 PM

If it wasn't you, would you not be jumping up and down saying so in an effort to preserve your career? I would.

Weiner Now Silent Over Lewd Photo

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj

ZenGum 06-02-2011 11:36 PM

Quote:

Weiner Now Silent Over Lewd Photo
Thank god. A talking weiner would really freak me out.

TheMercenary 06-02-2011 11:38 PM

:lol:

Sundae 06-03-2011 06:45 AM

It looks good to me.
He should be proud of it!

Ah - maybe that's the real problem.
It isn't him, but he doesn't want to say so, because sadly he is cursed with that name, and a really tiny pecker. I mean something like a baby's pinkie.

But if says it is him, aside from the whole "lewd" photo business, he is worried that one of the women into whom he's dipped his tiny rod will go to the press and reveal his shameful secret to the world.

Or something like that.

Nirvana 06-06-2011 04:23 PM

Now he says its his wiener and he has sent photos to 6 others. But really who would want to see this guy's wiener? Am I missing something here?

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/us/news/editor...6446d8722.jpeg

Sheldonrs 06-06-2011 04:46 PM

I liked him as a speaker on a lot of TV news programs. But anyone stupid enough, in this day and age, to take pics like that AND e-mail them to ANYONE is too stupid to serve in any elected office.

Nirvana 06-06-2011 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheldonrs (Post 738648)
I liked him as a speaker on a lot of TV news programs. But anyone stupid enough, in this day and age, to take pics like that AND e-mail them to ANYONE is too stupid to serve in any elected office.

I agree and what is sad is he is not the only one that has done this lately. We are really screwed :neutral:

classicman 06-06-2011 05:33 PM

Quote:

Late Monday afternoon, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) called for a congressional ethics investigation of Mr. Weiner. Ms. Pelosi said in a statement she was "deeply disappointed and saddened about this situation."

Fighting back tears at a New York news conference, the Democratic congressman said he lied last week when he repeatedly claimed not to have sent a photo of a man's crotch in bulging underwear to a female college student in Seattle.

"I have not been honest with myself, my family, my constituents, my friends, my supporters, and the media,'' said Mr. Weiner.

He said he has engaged in illicit conversations with about six women in recent years online. He said he never met any of the women.

"I haven't told the truth,'' he said. "I apologize to my wife and our families… I am deeply ashamed.''
Nother lying politician. Frickin' frack! I really liked him too. WTF was he thinking?
"Of course there are no plans to resign... " That shouldn't even be an option.

classicman 06-06-2011 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamIam (Post 737995)
God forbid that Faux and Co. might have to report on the misdeeds of a member of the conservative hyena pack. :eyebrow:

Eh hem... There's still some crow left on your plate.

Sheldonrs 06-07-2011 08:29 AM

If the basis of his denying any laws were broken is that he didn't use government equipment when texting his pics, he is wrong.
As an elected government official, his weiner IS government "equipment". ;)

infinite monkey 06-07-2011 08:36 AM

I hope a lot of you all never feel you should run for public office. 'Cause, your pictures are EVERYWHERE! ;)

Nirvana 06-07-2011 08:49 AM

I am safe from that they only elect strippers in Italy ;-)

glatt 06-07-2011 08:49 AM

I give this as much weight as Arnold cheating on his wife.

Who gives a shit?

If I was the wife, I'd be pissed. If he was running for reelection, and I could vote in that election, I'd consider it along with everything else, and it would count against him. But I really don't care. If I were a woman who received one of these pictures, and I didn't want to receive it, then I'd also be pissed.

But I'm not any of those things, so I don't care.

I don't care if a politician lies to me about their personal life. It's none of my damn business. John Edwards had a love child? I don't care. He illegally used campaign contributions to pay the woman off, or something like that? Then I care.

If they lie about something related to their job, then it matters.

Nirvana 06-07-2011 09:16 AM

Apples and oranges. A wife maybe be able to forgive an underwear photo on the internet that's nothing, but a child with someone else? That's harsh! That is a man on a power trip and I don't care to have that kind of a person in office. >[ see megalomania]

Trilby 06-07-2011 09:51 AM

Isn't it Weiner's weiner?

Spexxvet 06-07-2011 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirvana (Post 738751)
Apples and oranges. A wife maybe be able to forgive an underwear photo on the internet that's nothing, but a child with someone else? That's harsh! That is a man on a power trip and I don't care to have that kind of a person in office. >[ see megalomania]

They're ALL megalomaniacs. If they weren't they wouldn't put themselves in the spotlight. I agree with Glatt. Lying about an affair probably doesn't impact your ability to serve the people. Lying about your knowledge of a break-in at your opponents headquarters or your knowledge of exchanging arms for hostages probably does.

Nirvana 06-07-2011 10:07 AM

I don't agree they are all megalomaniacs.

Nirvana 06-07-2011 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 738754)
Isn't it Weiner's weiner?

Not according to spellcheck ;)

infinite monkey 06-07-2011 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 738755)
They're ALL megalomaniacs. If they weren't they wouldn't put themselves in the spotlight. I agree with Glatt. Lying about an affair probably doesn't impact your ability to serve the people. Lying about your knowledge of a break-in at your opponents headquarters or your knowledge of exchanging arms for hostages probably does.

At the very least "hey, look at my wiener..hehheh" like some Beavis and Butthead dumbasses makes me think "Could we get a GROWN-UP in office?"

Then I look around and think...

Yeah. Right.:right:

glatt 06-07-2011 10:17 AM

exactly.

I'd prefer my leaders to act with some dignity, but have they ever? The job draws people with huge egos. And voters love them that way.

infinite monkey 06-07-2011 11:11 AM

Wiener probably used a stunt weiner, you know, like Marky Mark at the end of Boogie Nights.

Sheldonrs 06-07-2011 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 738774)
Wiener probably used a stunt weiner, you know, like Marky Mark at the end of Boogie Nights.

The stunts weren't very cunning.

BigV 06-07-2011 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 738760)
exactly.

I'd prefer my leaders to act with some dignity, but have they ever? The job draws people with huge egos. And voters love them that way.

....

to lead you must first get elected. to get elected you have to get the votes. to get the votes you have to get the attention of the voters. to get the attention of the voters you have to get the attention of the media. to get the attention of the media you have to be more dramatic/outlandish/daring/compelling/unusual than the others --OR-- have enough money to buy your own airtime. Both of these last two are very strong indicators of huge egos.

But.

Despite my airtight analysis above, there are leaders who are not media grabbing showboating attention whores. But they don't make the front page or the crawl to keep you tuned in through the commercials. And they get stuff done too. That we're still a viable society (don't believe the doomsayers, they're wrong again) is a sign of our functioning government. It's not all over. And we do still have people working for the greater good, a good greater than their own individual self.

infinite monkey 06-07-2011 01:15 PM

Jimmy Carter was a decent human, and they chewed him up and spit him out.

BigV 06-07-2011 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 738806)
Jimmy Carter IS a decent human, and they chewed him up and spit him out.

fify.



Agreed.

infinite monkey 06-07-2011 01:37 PM

*snicker*

Sorry Mr Carter, I knew you were still alive. ;)

BigV 06-07-2011 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 738745)
I give this as much weight as Arnold cheating on his wife.

Who gives a shit?

If I was the wife, I'd be pissed. If he was running for reelection, and I could vote in that election, I'd consider it along with everything else, and it would count against him. But I really don't care. If I were a woman who received one of these pictures, and I didn't want to receive it, then I'd also be pissed.

But I'm not any of those things, so I don't care.

I don't care if a politician lies to me about their personal life. It's none of my damn business. John Edwards had a love child? I don't care. He illegally used campaign contributions to pay the woman off, or something like that? Then I care.

If they lie about something related to their job, then it matters.

Amen brother. Well said.

TheMercenary 06-07-2011 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 738745)
I give this as much weight as Arnold cheating on his wife.

Who gives a shit?

If I was the wife, I'd be pissed. If he was running for reelection, and I could vote in that election, I'd consider it along with everything else, and it would count against him. But I really don't care. If I were a woman who received one of these pictures, and I didn't want to receive it, then I'd also be pissed.

But I'm not any of those things, so I don't care.

I don't care if a politician lies to me about their personal life. It's none of my damn business. John Edwards had a love child? I don't care. He illegally used campaign contributions to pay the woman off, or something like that? Then I care.

If they lie about something related to their job, then it matters.

They are trusted representatives of the people. They stood in front of the people who elected them and lied to them, completely, utterly, and knowingly. That should stand for something. If they are going to lie to everyone in public about something hard and controversial, they will lie about other hard and controversial issues that deal with public trust. At least Arnold stood up and told everyone the truth before he fell on his sword of lies like The Weiner did...:rolleyes:

glatt 06-07-2011 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 738857)
At least Arnold stood up and told everyone the truth before he fell on his sword of lies like The Weiner did...:rolleyes:

Covering up an affair for like ten years is telling the truth?

Yes. They shouldn't lie. I agree. I'm not saying what they have done is OK. I'm saying I don't care. It isn't important enough to worry about. No crime, no foul. No professional ethical breach, no foul. No screwing over the constituents, no foul. No abuse of power, no foul.

Wiener betrayed his wife. I don't respect him for that. But it's none of my business.

Lance Armstrong cheated on his wife, but I don't see anyone asking him to return his medals for that. Tiger Woods too.

Trilby 06-07-2011 07:43 PM

I just read a transcript of Weiner's dirty sext-ing (to a Lisa Weiss in Vegas; a blackjack dealer, of course) and I'm underwhelmed.

This is what passes for sexy talk?

Yawn.

My cock, your tight pussy, I'm hard, I'm horny, wanna fuck you....blah blah blah. I had better material in high school ffs.

Fair&Balanced 06-08-2011 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 738880)
Covering up an affair for like ten years is telling the truth?

Yes. They shouldn't lie. I agree. I'm not saying what they have done is OK. I'm saying I don't care. It isn't important enough to worry about. No crime, no foul. No professional ethical breach, no foul. No screwing over the constituents, no foul. No abuse of power, no foul.

Wiener betrayed his wife. I don't respect him for that. But it's none of my business.

Lance Armstrong cheated on his wife, but I don't see anyone asking him to return his medals for that. Tiger Woods too.

My sentiments as well.

These kind of affairs are of no particular interest to me, whether its Weiner, Christopher Lee, who resigned last year after his pic on craigs list, Mark Sourder, who had an affair with a staffer with whom he made an abstinence video, or Senator David Vitter, who was involved in a DC escort service scandal. If their constituents want to re-elect them, as in the case of Vitter, it is their choice.

Cases like John Edwards and former Nevada Senator John Ensign, who paid hush money and got a lobbying job for the husband of the staffer he messed around with, are different. These involve criminal violations of campaign finance laws.

In the end, I recall a famous quote from Huey Long -- "the only way I can be brought down is to be caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

TheMercenary 06-08-2011 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 738880)
Covering up an affair for like ten years is telling the truth?

Yes. They shouldn't lie. I agree. I'm not saying what they have done is OK. I'm saying I don't care. It isn't important enough to worry about. No crime, no foul. No professional ethical breach, no foul. No screwing over the constituents, no foul. No abuse of power, no foul.

Wiener betrayed his wife. I don't respect him for that. But it's none of my business.

Lance Armstrong cheated on his wife, but I don't see anyone asking him to return his medals for that. Tiger Woods too.

Yea, I generally agree. In fact I would go so far as to say that he should not step down. Wait for the next election and let the chips fall. He did lie directly to his peeps over the event, I would see that as a breech of trust, but I don't have to vote for him.

As for Arnold, yea he kept is a secret. Not giving him a pass, only that when the time came to own up he did so, certainly because it was going to make the press one way or another. Not different circumstances, just a different form, an IMHO, a more honest and direct way to damage control.

Sundae 06-08-2011 10:42 AM

I come to this ignorant of the politics, but I certainly believe what Arnie did was more reprehensible. To father a child and hide it is of greater magnitude than just taking a picture of your clothed cock.

And the only reason either matters is the possibility of blackmail, which does make it of interest to the electorate. That both were forced into revealing their secrets means both gave opportunities to others to coerce them.

Tiger Woods, Ryan Giggs? Not bothered. They both traded on "family guy" images, but as someone not interested in what they had to sell I am not personally affected.

The hypocrisy of politicians affects me much more. If they have affairs while promoting family values, vote against gay issues while banging rent boys, go to war on "benefit cheats" while claimed £11k "by mistake" etc.

So my bottom line is what each of them said politically whilst fucking around.
Or just taking reasonably innocent photos.
I don't know and I'm not all that bothered to know in detail. But Arnie strikes me as the kind of guy who is pretty much into the nuclear family and status quo.
And therefore a coward - for all his muscles - for not changing his mind once his own cock showed him the other side of the situation.

classicman 06-08-2011 12:29 PM

Arnold had an affair and hid it for a decade all the while paying her off.
The two are not even close.

infinite monkey 06-08-2011 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 738880)
Covering up an affair for like ten years is telling the truth?

Yes. They shouldn't lie. I agree. I'm not saying what they have done is OK. I'm saying I don't care. It isn't important enough to worry about. No crime, no foul. No professional ethical breach, no foul. No screwing over the constituents, no foul. No abuse of power, no foul.

Wiener betrayed his wife. I don't respect him for that. But it's none of my business.

Lance Armstrong cheated on his wife, but I don't see anyone asking him to return his medals for that. Tiger Woods too.

No, but he cheated on his sport too and should have to return his medals for doping. That man's a well-rounded cheater. :mad:

BigV 06-08-2011 12:47 PM

Hey.

What is the crime here. Literally. What crime has been committed? None that I see.

I will expand in glatt's earlier remark. "He betrayed his wife" Really? How are we to know? Maybe, probably even. But that is not for me to judge. It is really none of my fucking business. JUST AS IT IS NONE OF (fill in the blank)'S FUCKING BUSINESS who I'm sexting. I like Sundae's comments as well. Unless this represents a public contradiction of his public statements on marital fidelity, I don't see the connection.

Also, though it is an axiom that it isn't the deed but the coverup that brings the pain, I understand the motivation. A private matter like this spread across the front pages of the nation is very embarrassing. I don't condone lying, but I don't see how the more appropriate answer of "None of your business" could have carried the day.

infinite monkey 06-08-2011 12:51 PM

Who the fuck are you 'hey'ing? :eyebrow:

infinite monkey 06-08-2011 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt
Covering up an affair for like ten years is telling the truth?

Yes. They shouldn't lie. I agree. I'm not saying what they have done is OK. I'm saying I don't care. It isn't important enough to worry about. No crime, no foul. No professional ethical breach, no foul. No screwing over the constituents, no foul. No abuse of power, no foul.

Wiener betrayed his wife. I don't respect him for that. But it's none of my business.

Lance Armstrong cheated on his wife, but I don't see anyone asking him to return his medals for that. Tiger Woods too.
No, but he cheated on his sport too and should have to return his medals for doping. That man's a well-rounded cheater. :mad:

Sundae 06-08-2011 12:56 PM

I repeat. The issue people have with politicians is almost always hypocrisy.
Not a crime you can go to gaol for, just a "crime" against the electorate that support you. And the danger that if you hide something that you publicly oppose, you are open to blackmail. And if people have political powers, not only is it hypocrisy, but it can divert the course of justice and lead to actual crime.

Once you are in political office, you do not have to commit a literal crime in order for your post to be untenable. A single person, an openly gay person, a person who acknowledges and supports a child born out of wedlock, a person with a sibling with a drug habit... Good luck to them all. But if you're hiding something AND denying it AND voting against issues that relate to your own persoal circumstances... that's when my pity dissolves.

BigV 06-08-2011 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 738981)
Who the fuck are you 'hey'ing? :eyebrow:

not you.

I'm "Hey"ing the spittle-flecked microphones broadcasting this "story". Not you. The posts fell that way because I took such a long time composing my post. The order here is just a coincidence. ok?

glatt 06-08-2011 01:28 PM

Sundae, I agree with you in general. But Wiener was not, as far as I know, one of those Bible thumping bigots like Santorum who invite themselves into other people's bedrooms. If Santorum was found in a similar compromising situation, then I think that would be news worthy. Only because of the hypocrisy.

It's true that the traditional take on this kind of thing is that it opens one up to blackmail. That's something for the voters to consider next time around for this guy. Without evidence that he was blackmailed, I can't hold that against him.

Fair&Balanced 06-08-2011 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 738995)
Sundae, I agree with you in general. But Wiener was not, as far as I know, one of those Bible thumping bigots like Santorum who invite themselves into other people's bedrooms. If Santorum was found in a similar compromising situation, then I think that would be news worthy. Only because of the hypocrisy.

You mean like former Congressman Mark Souder promoting abstinence education in a video with his staff member/mistress?

Sheldonrs 06-08-2011 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 738981)
Who the fuck are you 'hey'ing? :eyebrow:

Who the hey are you fucking? ;-)


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