Palin Email's
 

This whole scale attack on Palin's emails if quite funny. It certainly proves the bias of the media today. When did they jump all over Obama's emails when he was in office? Oh, never..... Funny as hell and completely reinforces what we have known all along about the media. :lol:

Palin isn't in office.
When Obama's emails from when he was in office are released, they will be jumped all over.

Perhaps, just perhaps, thats because they haven't been hacked and released?
Another alternative: they aren't interesting or shocking.
The bias of the media? You mean their bias to sensationalize any trite information they can in order to get/keep the public's attention?

Arnold had an extra marital affair, and a secret child, for 10 fucking years. Are we hearing about that? Not so much, we're hearing about a few smut pics taken by a Dem congress person. Which, at least for most regular dwellers, you're being pretty fucking hypocritical if you're gonna complain about smut pictures shared with interweb friends.

Palin is no longer a politician. She ceased being someone anyone had to take seriously the moment she left office 2 years early and signed up to be the subject of a "reality" show. She's a "celebrity commodity"; she asked the public to consume her "product" and they are.

I'm sure that any and all publicity Palin gets is exactly what she wants.

Palin is brilliant. She's an absolute genius that puts Howard Stern to shame. She's combined attention whoring with politics, to create a money harvesting machine that would do Silas McCormick proud.

Of course she should never hold public office.

The Palin machine operates on the energy created by the anger of the left, and earns her $12 million per year.

She doesn't anger me (well, not anymore :p

but she does entertain the hell outta me.

The guy who coined 'bread and circuses' had Ms. Palin in mind.

And good for her, if she can live with herself why do I care?

Still, she pukens me, and stands for pretty much everything I find appalling in human nature.

Meh, bet she never worries about her car payment. ;)

But payment in HELL? That's gonna smart. :lol:

My feelings exactly!

Did you hear about Palin and Thatcher?
Made me snigger.

Not a joke - a reported state of affairs where Thatch refused to see Palin (who cites her as an influence) because she is "nuts".

Can't say if it's true or not - might have been debunked since I heard it - but funny nonetheless.

Quote:

When the Governor told reporters that she would like to meet the Prime Minister during her world tour next month, a Thatcher aide reportedly said, “Lady Thatcher will not be seeing Sarah Palin. That would be belittling for Margaret. Sarah Palin is nuts.”

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I'm loving Lady Thatcher!

That kind of phrase is liable to cause concern in my part of the country :P

I'm culturally inept: in what way would it cause concern?

:)

Note it was Thatcher's aide who said that, not Thatcher. The way the aide said "That would be belittling for Margaret" makes me think Thatcher's capacities may have dimished to the point where visitors speak at her not with her?

"having sex with"

Ohhhhhh. :blush:

I'm sure she's a lovely lady, but no, that's not what I meant. ;)

orphaned my own goddamn post there

Aheh.

I live in the North of England. Thatcher is not a very well-loved figure in the North.

didn't Thatcher destroy industry up north?

Pretty much. The Thatcher government did many things, but crippling manufacturing and heavy industry is probably the most remembered. Some of that was arguably a necessary component of moving the country on to a service and value added economy instead of production based economy, but some of it was purely ideological and deeply damaging. Profitable mines closed down. Now, here we are, an island built on coal and we are literally importing coals to Newcastle from the other side of the world.

Like I say, some of what was done can be viewed more positively with hindsight: it allowed us to shift our economy to a different footing. But, and it's a big but: even where such changes were ultimately positive, the way it was done was shameful and cruel. It went alongside a propoganda war against the poor and least equipped to deal with the fall-out of economic change. And that propoganda war justified ever harsher and more draconian responses to the unemployed. So, policies which directly led to increases in unemployment went alongside changes in law that weighted the advantage ever more heavily towards the employer and away from employees, making it an employers market entirely. At the same time that this was occurring the available help for those who couldn't find work was being casually stripped away and their plight being publicly denigrated.

Whole towns died. In some areas unemployment levels reached such a high that there just weren't jobs for people to go to. It is precisely at such times that assistance and understanding is most needed, and and it was precisely at this time that it became most fraught with condemnation and calculated obstruction.

And the shipyards. Gods, the shipyards are gone too. Most of that damage was done during the Thatcher years. She went to war with the dockers just like she went to war with the miners and the nurses, and the teachers, and the firemen, and pretty much every union.

The oldest boatbuilding yard ever found was off the coast of Britain. Hidden under the waters of the Solent, 8000 years old. We've had a functioning navy since the middle of the 10th century, we are a maritime nation, yet we no longer build ships. That one stings. At a symbolic level that one breaks my heart a little.

She also forced all the govt. schools in London to sell off their sports fields. A generation of unhealthy, sedentary adults has followed, and you're all crap at cricket. You're only good players are imports and country boys.

Priorities, Dana. :D

Lol true dat.

They also critically underfunded schools and hospitals and cut many social care programmes and insisted on canteens in schools and hospitals be put into commercial hands rather than in-house provision, which dropped the quality drastically.

Possibly the worst thing though, was forcing councils to sell off their social housing and not allowing the proceeds to be spent on replacement stock. We have a major housing shortage and the private market haas proved unwilling or unable to resolve that problem. Meanwhile we have a culture that stigmatizes any adult who doesn't own a house. She whipped nation into a frenzy of home ownership and sowed the seeds for an unsustainable housing boom. I know so many people who lost houses in the 90s crash, my brother included.

Unless he "accidentally" deletes 10 million e-mails a la Bush.

What a treasure trove of NOTHING these turned out to be.
Lotta disappointed liberals...

not really.

only someone expecting real content from her would be surprised. I don't know many "liberals" that have such expectations.

Oh come on there was such a big deal and when nothing was found the story died.
Comparable to Al Capone's vault hosted by Geraldo Rivera... hehehe

I think the issue was more one of access to public records, valid for any candidate for President or Vice President and based in large part on her initial resistance to comply with the law.

Where Mercenary's initial criticism was wrong is in the fact that Obama's e-mails as state senator or even US senator dont carry the same access as public records.

Merc's initial criticism was absolutely right.

You could substitute any other public records from any other official. His point is that the Palin feeding frenzy is outing the inconvenient truth of wankeries like the LA Times. Faced with only the probability of Palin bashing material, they got way overexcited and published their erections like excited Congressmen.

Ooh, everybody help us go through the emails! In thousands of emails she is *sure* to have said something dumb! She's the most important political figure in the country and has earned our coverage! Although she holds no office and is not running for anything!

And now they stand there, awkwardly, with their dick hanging out. At a time when newspapers are trying to justify their existence by exclaiming how serious and important they are, this sort of non-news bullshit gives away the game.

And not access to anything Palin? Just so we're clear, are you bullshitting yourself as well as bullshitting us?

I think she made some claims during the early days of the campaign, before they muzzled her, that were highly questionable. Like the bridge to nowhere, the troopergate incident, etc.

And the fact remains that her correspondences were public record and Obama's were not. That is a fact, not bullshit.

You dont think the conservative media, bloggers, etc would have been all over Obama's correspondence if they had access...checking for evidence of his birth, his muslim religion, his ties to terrorists....?

added:

Or her claim that as governor she supported divesting from Sudan:
She was totally unprepared for the scrutiny that comes with running for such a high national office and has not stopped blaming the media for her own failures.

more:
Some conveniently forget that the initial request for many of her e-mails in 2008, after she was nominated, came from a Republican in Alaska and she invoked executive privilege. She further stalled release beyond even after having left office. All of which lead to the delay.

Should the media have ignored it all now, after all the forced delays in complying with the court order? Perhaps or perhaps not if she is still a potential candidate.

One last thought....remember the main stream media frenzy over Clinton in 1992, with reporters all over Little Rock digging through public records.

Thank you UT. Very well put and accurate as hell.

I watched Rachael Maddow... She nearly had multiple orgasms in anticipation. As did her buddy Ed and & Larry whatshisname.

In the beginning, I had some-kind of a respect, or or at least a neutral feeling toward her, now I have a disrespect and feelings like she ought to be ashamed of herself.

She's probably named a couple diversified accounts, 'self-respect' and 'public image'.

So you dont think she bears responsibility as a result of her claim of executive privilege or other stalling tactics?

OK :rolleyes:

I didn't say that at all. Please don't do that - its really beneath you. srsly.

Personally, I think Palin is an idiot, a sideshow and nothing I would want near the office of the president. That was not my point, nor the point UT was making.

My point is that there would not have been a media frenzy last week if she had complied and not delayed the release of the e-mails for more than two years.

And IMO, the media frenzy would have occurred in 08 and been no different than Clinton faced in 92 or that Obama would have faced if his e-mails were subject to a public records act.

F&B is right. Belittling 'liberal' media for their excitement is disingenuous.

No. If that were the case, it would be quiet news, and not followed by the breathless "and we're gonna let you help us read every last one of them!" But don't listen to me, listen to Jon Stewart on the matter:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mo...-13-2011/pmail

Looking in from the outside, I'd say you're both right. Palin absolutely created the context for the feeding frenzy by her own actions and words. But that doesn't mean it isn't a feeding frenzy, and it doesn't mean the press aren't desperately trying to hype things up and search for the most salacious or saleable details.

But that is less to do with her being on the right, and the media having a 'liberal bias' and is far more to do with her status as the celebrity politician and whackjob people most love to hate.

BS.

She's an attention-whore and the media idiots feed right into her "game."
If they stopped that attitude and realized that 70-80% of the people don't care about her, she would go away much faster. (hopefully and thankfully)
Unfortunately, by paying attention to her every word and covering her self centered & meaningless bus tour, they give her far more credibility - which she does NOT deserve. She deserves ZERO press.
Simply put, She is not a viable candidate, nor has she even even committed to running. Why even bother asking her? They continually portray her as the spokesperson for the right, which she isn't.

I think the frenzy would have been the same with any national political figure (and she is one, with millions of followers, whether she runs for office or not) who smugly has boycotted the media for two years, limiting her political pronouncements on policy or attacks of others to her Facebook, her Fox News show, Sean Hannity's show and a very select few others.

That's fine - although I disagree.
Now when Weiner's come out ... or Ahhhhnolds...

Double standards abound. It is not only Obama's emails that should be examined it is his actions surrounding his thesis and tenure at Harvard Law Review. All this came out during the time he was a valid candidate for President. And people were prevented from seeing the information. There are many issues about his past associations with radical elements of the Left that have been called into question, all pushed aside on done with minimal activity by the press. Now we have a gore fest by the Liberal Media and what did they find? Nada. :lol:

Because she sells newspapers, magazines, and television advertising time.

She is a revenue generator.

I know it is sometimes hard to remember that "news" media are only called that.

That is all any media organization has become anymore. The internet is destroying most of their credibility and competing for their dollars.

I hear ya Foot3 ... point taken.