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Trilby 10-20-2011 07:44 AM
the shores of Tripoli
 
...Kaddafi - dead?

that would be so fooking cool.

Undertoad 10-20-2011 11:33 AM
Moammar Gadhafi is dead and so is his son and his chief of intelligence.

Mission accomplished

glatt 10-20-2011 11:35 AM
Can we go home?

Undertoad 10-20-2011 11:36 AM
And also, Mr. Al-Assad, notice what is happening to "big man" dictators these days. Either the US Military drags you out of a spider hole and your countrymen put you on trial and hang you, or NATO bombs your ass until somebody with a gun is close enough to punch your ticket. You have gone out of style and you're next on the list.

Trilby 10-20-2011 11:37 AM
Can we go home from everywhere?

infinite monkey 10-20-2011 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 765580)
Can we go home from everywhere?
Nah. Think of the job loss. Won't you think of the job loss?

Trilby 10-20-2011 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 765582)
Nah. Think of the job loss. Won't you think of the job loss?
the rich will fix it! the rich fix everything!!

:D

Everything comes to an end. Even being King of the World comes to an end.

infinite monkey 10-20-2011 11:48 AM
Nope. Strawberry Festival Queen is forever.

Anyway, I don't like to celebrate a death. But woo freaking hoo!

Trilby 10-20-2011 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 765588)
Anyway, I don't like to celebrate a death.
I do. I celebrate it when it's a bad, evil, dark, hate-filled pustule on the world.

Maybe I'm teh eval, but I don't care.

Time's up, motherf8888er. :D

glatt 10-20-2011 11:55 AM
Yeah. Celebrating a death is unbecoming, but this is good news.

infinite monkey 10-20-2011 11:58 AM
I know. I am really happy for the people. Evil eliminated is a good thing.

Don't think for a second I have any sympathy for K/Q/Khadafi.

It just seemed gauche to say woo fucking hoo. But you're right. Fuck it. Here's a jig to go with! :jig:

Trilby 10-20-2011 11:59 AM
I'm too old to lie about my feelilngs.

It's a privilege of crone-hood. (deep, deep wish for crone smilie)

glatt 10-20-2011 12:04 PM
Sorry about the timing of my post, Bri. I was composing it when you posted yours. The timing of it makes it seem a bit harsh to you. I get where you are coming from.

Trilby 10-20-2011 12:05 PM
no worries, glatt.

everyone has their opinion on this.

:)

footfootfoot 10-20-2011 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 765588)
Nope. Strawberry Festival Queen is forever.
Strawberry Queen
now we're sharing the same cream
And our shortcake's nearly done
No more sauce on the run

footfootfoot 10-20-2011 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 765590)
I do. I celebrate it when it's a bad, evil, dark, hate-filled pustule on the world.

Maybe I'm teh eval, but I don't care.

Time's up, motherf8888er. :D
I love the highbrow "hate-filled pustule" (excellent word choice)
combined with the earthy honesty of "Time's up, motherf8888er."

I'd like to see you after class.

Pete Zicato 10-20-2011 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 765599)
I'm too old to lie about my feelilngs.

It's a privilege of crone-hood. (deep, deep wish for crone smilie)
cellar is now #1 on google for the phrase crone smilie.

glatt 10-20-2011 01:50 PM
well let's not disappoint.


A crone is like a bottle of fine aged wine.

edit: Ah, shit I read that as simile, not smilie.

Trilby 10-20-2011 02:52 PM
:)

sometimes I just love it here.

TheMercenary 10-20-2011 04:38 PM
For $1 Billion, One Dictator

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Call him the billion dollar man. One billion for one dictator.
According to the Pentagon, that was the cost to U.S. taxpayers for Muammar el-Qaddafi’s head: $1.1 billion through September, the latest figure just out of the Defense Department.
And that’s just for the Americans.
The final totals will take some time to add up, and still do not include the State Department, CIA, and other agencies involved or other NATO and participating countries. NATO does not track the operational costs to each member country, but the funds directly taken from a common NATO account for Libya operations have totaled about $7.4 million per month for electronic warfare capabilities and $1.1 million per month for headquarters and command staff, a NATO spokesman said.
http://nationaljournal.com/for-1-bil...ddafi-20111020

DanaC 10-20-2011 04:46 PM
Compared to the cost of Saddam...if this trend continues, soon we'll all be able to afford our own dictator's!

Griff 10-20-2011 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 765595)
Yeah. Celebrating a death is unbecoming, but this is good news.
They captured him, but he did not survive in custody. Believe what you want, but those are the kind of people we just put in charge.

TheMercenary 10-20-2011 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 765693)
They captured him, but he did not survive in custody. Believe what you want, but those are the kind of people we just put in charge.
Yup. There is the Democracy everyone wanted to foist on the tribal peoples of the Middle East and North Africa.

TheMercenary 10-20-2011 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 765689)
Compared to the cost of Saddam...if this trend continues, soon we'll all be able to afford our own dictator's!
I agree!:3eye:

Aliantha 10-20-2011 05:34 PM
Thank you America. The world is a better place today because of what you did yesterday.

piercehawkeye45 10-20-2011 05:47 PM
An article about Qaddafi that almost makes you feel bad for him. Almost...

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...-world/247078/

tw 10-20-2011 06:13 PM
Never forget the 'misspoke' he did to cause his own eventual death. NATO would never have authority to do what it did had Kaddafi kept his mouth shut. When he said he would massacre all rebels, then he was advocating mass genocide. Only then did the UN authorize NATO to provide direct military support for the TNC (Transitional National Council). Without that air support, the rebels probably would have been crushed. Without Kaddafi advocating mass genocide, that air support probably could not have been authorized.

Now, the still pending second question. Discussed long ago an extended war so that TNC politics could stabilize. The question remains. Did this war last long enough for all Libyans to share in a common country? Or was it too short for various parties to unite in a common nation? We shall see. It appears war was long enough for the TNC to become a foundation for a united Libya.

TheMercenary 10-20-2011 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 765703)
An article about Qaddafi that almost makes you feel bad for him. Almost...

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...-world/247078/
Read this one....


http://reason.com/blog/2011/10/20/gaddafi-snuff-footage

ZenGum 10-20-2011 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 765588)
Nope. Strawberry Festival Queen is forever.
Let me take you down,
cause I'm goin
strawberry queens
strawberry queens forever!

Oh yeah and in general, tacky to celebrate deaths, but ... fuck'im.

News radio here says he was captured with bullet wounds in both legs (kneecaps? :eyebrow:) and head, and died en route to hospital.

classicman 10-20-2011 07:33 PM
Liveleak had video footage showing him getting kicked and pistol-whipped earlier today.

Pretty graphic link here
and another here

piercehawkeye45 10-20-2011 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 765710)
Yup. Well you can expect anything short of that. That sneaky fucker got what was coming to him.

zippyt 10-20-2011 08:53 PM
Oh Poor Mo Mo :(
Couldn't have happened to a better SlumBitch !!

footfootfoot 10-20-2011 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 765746)
Liveleak had video footage showing him getting kicked and pistol-whipped earlier today.

Pretty graphic link here
and another here
Fucking camera man. Switch to decaf. It was like watching the Blair Witch Project.

TheMercenary 10-20-2011 10:26 PM
:lol: agreed.

Aliantha 10-20-2011 10:31 PM
Things might have been pretty frantic at the point when that footage was taken. If it's the same stuff they're showing on mainstream TV here, it's a medium close up of him dead on the ground covered in blood. A bit wobbly, but I'm not surprised about that. You'd have to have such a surge of adrenaline that just about anyone would be shaking wouldn't they?

tw 10-21-2011 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 765829)
Things might have been pretty frantic at the point when that footage was taken.
Look closer. TheMercenary is there screaming Allah Akbar while trying to stab him with a rusty knife.

Lamplighter 10-21-2011 09:38 AM
:)

TheMercenary 10-21-2011 03:20 PM
On to Syria! Come on Obama!

tw 10-21-2011 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 765972)
On to Syria! Come on Obama!
Taking a rusty knife to another country will not kill more Taliban.

Besides. Assad is not so delusional as to make Kaddafi’s mistake. Assad will not call for genocide. The UN will have to find another excuse.

ZenGum 10-21-2011 08:43 PM
Assad is very cleverly limiting the killings to no more than a few dozen per day. I read a while back the Syrian death toll was around 2,900, all done little by little.

Personally I'd rather see revolution in Iran.

classicman 10-21-2011 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 766008)
Personally I'd rather see revolution in Iran.
I've been seeing a little bit more talk of this as of late. Be careful what you ask for...

ZenGum 10-21-2011 11:28 PM
Yemen just got pretty worked up, too.

Aliantha 10-22-2011 02:16 AM
I heard today that he's in a freezer in the local supermarket to everyone can come have a look and believe it with their own eyes.

I was at a girls breast cancer lunch and out of my mouth popped the words, "your local IGA. How the locals like it". Which is currently a slogan from an ad campaign here.

Poor humour I know, but it got a pretty good laugh.

classicman 10-23-2011 10:25 PM

xoxoxoBruce 10-23-2011 10:36 PM
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NY Post is on it.

ZenGum 10-24-2011 05:42 AM
Hi Bruce! long time, not much post.

Tunisia have just held their first general election, nine months after they ousted their tyrant. 90% turnout, no reports of violence as yet. :jig: Holy moly, the world has got better this year.

footfootfoot 10-24-2011 08:41 PM
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ZenGum 10-24-2011 10:18 PM
You should consult your proctologist.

classicman 10-24-2011 10:33 PM
Anyone know anything about this site or its claims? I stumbled upon it...
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16 Things Libya Will Never See Again
1) There is no electricity bill in Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens.
2) There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at zero percent interest by law.
3) Having a home considered a human right in Libya.
4) All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 dinar (U.S.$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.
5) Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25 percent of Libyans were literate. Today, the figure is 83 percent.
6) Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kickstart their farms are all for free.
7) If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need, the government funds them to go abroad, for it is not only paid for, but they get a U.S.$2,300/month for accommodation and car allowance.
8) If a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidizes 50 percent of the price.
9) The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 per liter.
10) Libya has no external debt and its reserves amounting to $150 billion are now frozen globally.
11) If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession, as if he or she is employed, until employment is found.
12) A portion of every Libyan oil sale is credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens.
13) A mother who gives birth to a child receive U.S.$5,000.
14) 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $0.15.
15) 25 percent of Libyans have a university degree.
16) Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Manmade River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.
Link

piercehawkeye45 10-24-2011 11:46 PM
It's all over leftist sites who claim that Qaddafi was actually a good leader and the overthrow was just a neoliberal interventionist plot to get more oil money. I wouldn't doubt they are true, probably exaggerated and misleading, but it doesn't even get close to cancelling out all the fucked up things he did to his country to stay in power.

ZenGum 10-25-2011 01:36 AM
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3) Having a home considered a human right in Libya.
Having an opinion was a capital offence.

I suspect that is either half-truths, complete lies, or best case scenarios that you might get if you are one of Gadaffi's loyalists. Beloved leaders do not get hauled from a drain and lynched by an angry mob.

Except maybe the cheap oil. I think the irrigation project was real.

Trilby 10-25-2011 06:22 AM
:notworthy:

Aliantha 10-25-2011 07:04 AM
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13) A mother who gives birth to a child receive U.S.$5,000.
Same here! Wow.

Undertoad 10-25-2011 07:34 AM
If you want to read about it from someone who went there two years ago:

http://www.michaeltotten.com/archive...he-land-of.php

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I met one shopkeeper who opened right up when he and I found ourselves alone in his store.
...
"And Qaddafi is our president," he said. "About him, no comment." He laughed, but I don't think he thought it was funny.

"Oh, come on," I said. "Comment away. I don't live here."

He thought about that. For a long drawn-out moment, he calculated the odds and weighed the consequences. Then the dam burst.

"We hate that fucking bastard, we have nothing to do with him. Nothing. We keep our heads down and our mouths shut. We do our jobs, we go home. If I talk, they will take me out of my house in the night and put me in prison.

"Qaddafi steals," he told me. "He steals from us." He spoke rapidly now, twice as fast as before, as though he had been holding back all his life. He wiped sweat off his forehead with trembling hands. "The oil money goes to his friends. Tunisians next door are richer and they don't even have any oil."

"I know," I said. "I'm sorry."

"We get three or four hundred dinars each month to live on. Our families are huge, we have five or six children. It is a really big problem. We don't make enough to take care of them. I want to live in Lebanon. Beirut is the second Paris. It is civilized! Women and men mix freely in Lebanon."

Pete Zicato 10-27-2011 02:33 PM
Pun thread: The Stores of Tripoli

I bet they get an Abercrombie and Fitch soon.

TheMercenary 10-27-2011 03:18 PM
Democracy and regime change in the Middle East = Sharia Law.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/peter-w...b_1030508.html

TheMercenary 10-27-2011 04:47 PM
Is that Opra in pic #4? :)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...6.html#s424777


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