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JBKlyde 12-04-2011 04:55 PM

Lying Spirits...
 
I think that as a christian one of the WORSE sins you can commit is LING. Why because it destroys credibility. Not only yours and not only to person you lie to, but it's makes God out to be futile. Be Not Deceived, God is Not mocked a man reaps what he sews.

So I am feeling really like a wretched idiot, and like I have Zero Credibility. Why, because I have a lying spirit. So how do I go about getting some credibility back. I suppose it starts with ME. I have to repent of ling and resist this ling spirit. What about you???

qcc??

classicman 12-04-2011 06:30 PM

Are you talking about lying, as in telling untruths, or some other sin?

JBKlyde 12-04-2011 08:23 PM

The act of intentionally speaking something untrue and trying to pass in off as true.

classicman 12-04-2011 08:37 PM

OK, So what do you lie about and why?

sexobon 12-04-2011 09:09 PM

I hate lying spirits. If the bottle says 80 Proof, that’s what it should be ... not 77 or 75.

I hate lying spirits. They should be up moving around, especially on Halloween.

DanaC 12-05-2011 03:41 AM

Don't be so down on lying. It's one of the things that separates us from the other animals. It's a vital social skill. It has its place.

Trilby 12-05-2011 05:11 AM

Does this computer make my butt look big?

Aliantha 12-05-2011 05:32 AM

I thought he was telling us it's bad to be a fish.

Oh well...

JBKlyde 12-05-2011 09:26 AM

Quote:

OK, So what do you lie about and why?
Nothing Inpaticiluar, stupid stuff really.. and I guess I was just lying to
save face".. you know just trying to make myself look kool..

Quote:

Don't be so down on lying. It's one of the things that separates us from the other animals. It's a vital social skill. It has its place.
it's also one of the things that separates pagans from Christians

infinite monkey 12-05-2011 09:35 AM

JBK, what's the big deal?

If you don't like to be a liar it's very simple. Don't lie. Does your god expect you to be super-human? You go through each day doing the best you can and if you think lying is wrong, don't do it. If you screw up and do it, make it right.

This "I have to be holier than thou" attitude is the crap that's tripping you up.

You want to be a good person? Be a good person.

Simple.

JBKlyde 12-05-2011 09:54 AM

It's a credibility Issue. People have caught me in a lie and now I have no credibility. Repentance is like a 12 step program. So I just tell people I'm 2 steps ahead of horrible. Regaining trust is difficult. Once you loose credibility you have to work very hard to get it back. I hate being labeled as a liar and now I have to make a conscious effort to change.

infinite monkey 12-05-2011 09:57 AM

Well, it seems like you're doing that, and that's good.

"Where are you now" is the best way to look at it. You can't beat yourself up forever. :)

JBKlyde 12-05-2011 10:20 AM

'Now' I am in HUD housings making about 700 dollars a month off of disability plus 150 in food stamps with no Job and I'm a diagnosed skitzofrentic. I take my medicine religiously .. it's the best I can do with the given circumstance..

classicman 12-05-2011 10:28 AM

Quote:

This "I have to be holier than thou" attitude is the crap that's tripping you up.

You want to be a good person? Be a good person.

Simple.
Print this out and post it on your fridge.

DO IT NOW!

JBKlyde 12-05-2011 11:07 AM

Holy than Thou art is a Joke.. I don't play that game.. I just want to be right with God at all cost.. so I speak my mind which obviously isn't as sane as it should be.. if I was playing that game I wouldn't have called myself wretched...

classicman 12-05-2011 11:42 AM

But JB, from an objective point of view, thats EXACTLY what you are doing.

JBKlyde 12-05-2011 11:57 AM

I disagree.. I don't feel a need to be holier than anyone I just have a need to be right with God. Maybe I'm just coming off that way because I like to talk about holy stuff or maybe I just don't see it.. explain your self..

infinite monkey 12-05-2011 12:00 PM

Because it seems that if you don't view yourself as the holiest of holies, then you're not good enough for god.

Most of us accept that we're fallible.

JBKlyde 12-05-2011 12:13 PM

wow I really need to work on my communication skills then cause I'm not that way at all...

classicman 12-05-2011 01:34 PM

I agree with IM. :eek:

Dude, Its like you are trying to be perfect and you get upset if you fall below that IMPOSSIBLE line.

Perhaps you do have a communication issue. Try explaining the situation where you lied - maybe that'll help.

JBKlyde 12-05-2011 02:00 PM

It was in a poker game. And I was "bluffing". also I was "trowing chalk" on this chick once and I told her " 'I used' to be able to tell time by the stars".. most the lies I told were really just figurative "what if's" in a retrospective imbalance...

classicman 12-05-2011 02:27 PM

Are you serious? Thats pretty weak if thats the best you got.

JBKlyde 12-05-2011 03:01 PM

no that's the worst I'm willing to reveal...

Spexxvet 12-05-2011 03:04 PM

Ok, be honest. Where do you bury your dead hobos? No lying.

sexobon 12-05-2011 03:51 PM

You just about have to bury hobos lying, it takes forever to dig a hole deep enough to bury them standing up.

Spexxvet 12-05-2011 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 777933)
You just about have to bury hobos lying, it takes forever to dig a hole deep enough to bury them standing up.

you could chop them into little pieces.

JBKlyde 12-05-2011 04:42 PM

there encrypted into an Ampatheater wall by the Tampa Museum of Art..

monster 12-05-2011 08:36 PM

Seems like you should worry about your pride more.....

JBKlyde 12-06-2011 09:59 AM

he who falls on the rock will be broken to pieces, he on whom the rock falls will be crushed...

Spexxvet 12-06-2011 10:02 AM

He who go to bed with itchy ass wake up with stinky fingers...

infinite monkey 12-06-2011 10:07 AM

Oh, I love Heehoos!

Heehoo puts cream in a tart, is not always a baker...

classicman 12-06-2011 11:01 AM

He who eats sand will shit bricks.

Spexxvet 12-06-2011 11:52 AM

He who eat jelly beans fart in technicolor

JBKlyde 12-08-2011 08:49 PM

I dunno all's I know is that I'm not an angel and I'm not hell bound.

Elspode 12-09-2011 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde (Post 777766)
Nothing Inpaticiluar, stupid stuff really.. and I guess I was just lying to
save face".. you know just trying to make myself look kool..



it's also one of the things that separates pagans from Christians

I'll definitely bite on this one. Which group lies more, in your opinion? Please cite evidence while I get popcorn. :)

regular.joe 12-09-2011 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde (Post 778158)
he who falls on the rock will be broken to pieces, he on whom the rock falls will be crushed...

The student with a rock for a teacher learned not to ask questions.

ZenGum 12-09-2011 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by regular.joe (Post 778946)
The student with a rock for a teacher learned not to ask questions.

The student with a rock for a teacher learned not to expect answers.

The student with a rock for a teacher learned to ask the right questions, so that the answer was self-evident.

The student with a rock for a teacher learned he was in a shitty school.

regular.joe 12-09-2011 01:01 AM

At least the rock never lied to him.

infinite monkey 12-09-2011 07:35 AM

He went to the school of hard rocks.

ZenGum 12-09-2011 07:54 AM

:D Gneiss one.

infinite monkey 12-09-2011 08:13 AM

Thank you, it's easy to take my sense of humor for granite. Usually you need a couple quartz of alcohol to find me funny. But that's coal, I take it with a grain of silt.

(preemptive groan!)

:biggrin:

JBKlyde 12-09-2011 10:45 AM

Quote:

I'll definitely bite on this one. Which group lies more, in your opinion? Please cite evidence while I get popcorn.

Pagans are just a lying species..

where as,

Christians really try to be honest,

no evidence just a faith factor.

DanaC 12-09-2011 10:49 AM

Hahahaha. Ok.

classicman 12-09-2011 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 778989)
Thank you, it's easy to take my sense of humor for granite. Usually you need a couple quartz of alcohol to find me funny. But that's coal, I take it with a grain of silt.

But, were you stoned in school?

BigV 12-09-2011 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBKlyde (Post 779040)
Pagans are just a lying species..

where as,

Christians really try to be honest,

no evidence just a faith factor.

This is acceptable, because, after all, faith is belief in that which can not be seen. Blind belief. Gotcha.

eta:

Perhaps not acceptable, but consistent.

infinite monkey 12-09-2011 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 779042)
But, were you stoned in school?

Oh, I tried that once, but it made me so sedimentary.


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