You Dirty Sluts
 

I posted this to my Facebook and tumblr today. I'm reposting it here instead of current events or politics, because I think this isn't just political or newsy. This is a huge women's issue that transcends mere political debate.

WOMEN. LADIES. GIRL-FOLK. Do you use birth control? Are you a slut? If your answers were "yes" and "yes," PM me!

Well obviously Mr L would be happy with my choices lately. lol

I hope you're barefoot and making a sandwich.

well, I am barefoot, and I made taco's for dinner. We ate with our fingers. That probably qualifies.

I don't know anything about Armed Forces Radio. Is it supported at all by taxpayer money? If so, it shouldn't have any partisan stuff on it, unless it's balanced out with another extremist blowhard, but from the left.

I do not use birth control and I AM a slut.

You're the slut we all wish we were :p

Yes, but are you a blowhard?

I would consider the fact that the slutty action you're involved in doesn't have any risk of producing a baby birth control.

Is it more offensive to call someone a slut than a bitch? Or are both equally mysogynistic when used by a male in a discusiion/argument/debate scenario?

slut is much worse than bitch, imho

My take is that "slut" is a judgement about the value of the person, while "bitch" just means you don't like them at that moment.

because of the sexual aspect?

I have the idea of the slut harms herself, a bitch harms others.

What other aspect is there?

But it says more about the person using the word than the person it's aimed at. Maybe a few decades ago it was the other way around.

Bitch means "you are a woman, who is acting negatively", or "you are acting negatively and I want to paint you with a feminine epithet for increased effect". in both cases, it's implied that the being a woman part of the term is meant to increase the negativity of the term.

Slut, however, means "you are immoral, and have too much sex", and is almost always applied negatively only to women. it implies trashiness and a lack of personal worth or value. But it also means "sex is bad"... and that's already becoming a position wildly out of touch with anyone who isn't a Limbaugh fan or a Westboro Baptist or whatever. Slut shaming is becoming more and more rejected by society. Slutwalks are an increasingly common sort of protest march.

Is that what makes the difference -that one is sexual and one isn't, or is it the way in which each is used or is it just higher on the sliding scale of all bad words that ranges from you dastardly devil thru you motherfelching cunt to.....wherever?

It wasn't a challenge, merely a question, sorry if it came off differently

I don't find them particularly different in this context of use. You and Ibram have both touched on what I feel about it really -it says more about the person who resorts to the name-calling, and it's about damn time women just didn't let "slut" hurt them any more than "bitch". words like this just need to be reclaimed until there are no more left. But I wouldn't be surprised to find I'm in the minority about that. I think all this "bad words" thing is ridiculous. And I don't feel any need to take a stand against this Lindburgh chap because he's already been outclassed and shown up by his "victim". Good for her.

Armed Forces TV carries Fox and MSNBC shows for example. The problem is... IS there anyone as extreme as Rush on the left? Not just someone who's really far on the left - I mean EXTREME, as in, repeatedly and unabashedly calling a woman who testified about a friend of hers needing birth control for ovarian cysts a slut, regardless of the facts?

the partisanship isn't the issue. It's the offensiveness and disgusting personal attacks.

I think they are very different.

Bitch is always a woman or an insult to a man by calling him a woman. You can be a bitch one day, and then not be a bitch the next. It's about attitude. Or maybe you are always a bitch. But then that's just the way you are. (Not you, Monster.)

Slut is someone who is promiscuous. But in a bad way. And using that word is making a judgement on the worth of the person forever. They are unclean. In the gutter. The lowest.

Yeah, but do I pay for it with my taxes?

Yes. Yes you do.

He's losing advertisers...I think the count is up to 30.

bitch=female
dick=male

The closest I can think of is Ed, used to be Ulbermann maybe. But no, neither went that far.

IMO, Rush shouldn't be on ANY radio.

They're both loud and bombastic, and tend to have a rhetorical style similar to Rush's, but neither are particularly extreme by my reckoning. What exactly makes them extreme, other than being loud and slightly angry all the time?

Well then I'm completely opposed to that. Give the troops entertainment, but not politics.

Rush Limbaugh routinely mocks the commander in chief. How can they justify broadcasting that over official channels? He foments insubordination. That's just nuts that he would be carried.

FTFY ;)

Whew! I've been doing it right!

That's not how AFN (armed forces network) works. The idea isn't to give them state-approved, uncontroversial, milquetoast media... The basic premise is, "if we're asking you to give up your liberty, your home, your acquaintances, and potentially your life, to go live or fight in a foreign country, we are going to give you the amenities of American life as best we can to make up for it." That's why commissaries/BXs/PXs carry books or magazines or products that may be distasteful to or disliked by some people - including politically-related material. Because it's meant to give the troops what they want in the context of what they're sacrificing by living on-base, predominantly overseas.
Any of our stateside military folks can help clarify, but that's my understanding of AFN's guiding principle, at least overseas. Keep in mind that I had AFN TV (and I assume radio if I'd looked for it) while I was living in Taiwan.

There's probably an element of cultural difference here too. A slut can just be a slovenly woman with no reference to sexuality, so it just doesn't have the strong slur to it for me. I often refer to myself as a slut in the messy/poor houseworking sense. I just checked the Oxford and the slovernly aspect gets far more coverage than the sexual one and is the first meaning given. Also Brits are generally less hung up about sex and booze (and more hung up about guns and violence)

I also noticed "slut wool" being given as a term for "dust bunnies" :lol:

To me, being a dick and being a bitch are two completely different behaviours that have very little to do with gender. And they're both just words, neither is really worse than the other.

When Air America was on, Ed Schultz was the centrist. I haven't seen his TV show; maybe he's bumped it up a bit for them. At that time, maybe Randi Rhodes was the most extreme one in the lineup. At one point she called Geraldine Ferraro and Hillary Clinton whores. She was later fired by Air America, though there's dispute over whether that was the real reason.

Randy Rhodes - yes.

What about Phyllis Diller (in her time) :D

They're used in exactly the same way here, at least.
Neither is that overtly offensive. They describe a behavior (ie: being a jerk) more than anything.
Slut is a FAR worse word bordering along the "c" word.

bitches are just cranky. sluts are dirty.

Sometimes I tell my boys they're behaving like bitches - implying that I think they're being cranky women. It usually helps.

I think our equivalent to slut in terms of offensiveness would be 'slag'

We call them sluzza's over here. But sluts and slags as well.

To be honest, I really don't like any of the words. I just think it's another labelling word that inflicts negative feelings, both on the user and the receiver. I feel kind of like I need to wash my mouth out just for thinking the word as I'm typing here. (yes I come from a family of mothers who still wash their kids mouths out with soap. No wonder Aden has such clean teeth)

Please. Armed Forces radio is supposed to broadcast a cross section of what is happening on radio in the US. Ideally what they broadcast is something the troops and other listeners want to hear. Based on the generally right leaning make-up of the military, it makes perfect sense for them to carry Rush.

I don't care for the guy and I've never really listened to his show, but reaction this is getting is just stupid. He called a woman a slut while ranting. Dumb move in my opinion, but so what. He isn't a journalist. It was just as dumb and just as much of a non-issue for me as when Schultz called Laura Ingraham a slut. Whatever.

The woman is revelling in her 15 minutes. She went before congress and boo hooed about poor law students not being able to afford contraception. Fuck off. We all have our crosses to bare lady. If between you and your partner you can't afford a condom, then you're too damn stupid to be having sex anyway.

and No I do not have a religious opposition to birth control. I have a deeply held dislike for people who believe it's someone else's (meaning you and me) to pay for things they want.

Did you ever actually listen to her testimony? at ALL? or are you talking out of your ass?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/boxofficebuz...dra-fluke-48z2

Yeah. Surprise. She wasn't talking about government paying for anything. She wasn't talking about needing it just for preventing pregnancy. She wasn't talking about herself or her sex life. She was saying that letting insurance providers (that is to say, employers, not the insurers) refuse to cover, or try to put up stumbling blocks to obtaining, medically legitimate treatments, for "moral" or political reasons, is unacceptable.

Yeah. But he didn't double down on it for two more days.
I'm not a big fan of Ed, but he's no Rush.

But he did call a woman a slut.
They have that in common.
Unfortunately, I do think he tries quite hard at emulating Rush from the left.
If you go way back to when he was on Air America, he was totally different.

Dick vs Bitch. Not here (SE Mich) at least. I suspect more of the US too. Being a dick requires no intelligence whatsoever. And often doesn't need a third party. Bitchery requires a third party and is often based on intelligent/insightful observations. Not always. neither are specific to the gender exhibiting the behaviour, although it is possible that one gender is better at one and the other at the other. or not.

I get that slut is a bad, bad word here. It just isn't to me. but then, as I said, I don't really have problems with any words. If they're used appropriately, I'm all good.

Yes Ibram, I did hear it. Thanks for pasting it in for me though. I see nothing in there that causes me to feel differently about compelling private organizations to provide coverage for any specific medication or procedure. Ooh, a prescription costs a lot. Some people can't afford to have it. Shit happens. I've been on the shitty end of things not being covered an awful lot in the last few years. That still doesn't make me believe anyone or any organization should be compelled to pay for my expenses.

Fair enough. Diff'rent strokes and all that.

the subtle difference between a "dick" and a "prick."

I'd say a dick was more passive and apt to allow douchebaggery to occur on his watch, where a prick is more active and deliberate.

yup could go for that. prick is definitely more intentional assholedness than dick.

:lol:

Sheldon?

Flint

Totally agree f3.

Then, i assume, you believe that argument applies equally to ALL medical procedures.

Then it's Obamacare, not contraception coverage, you have a problem with.
Why, then, should you or anybody else single out contraception as an issue?

What pomposity it is to declare that you assume something about another, through vocabulary substitution, that they have already blatantly stated about themselves.
Because ALL Medicine is NOT Preventive Medicine which is a fact of life that is lost on you. It's ALWAYS a matter of degree whether discussing immunizations, contraception; or, limiting medical intervention to prayer.

Your continuing approach, like the sensationalized title you ascribed to this thread, reflects attention whoring at the expense of a valid issue. You are respectfully requested to cease and desist confrontational methods of engagement and pursue synergistic intellectual discussion.

I think Ibram has a valid point, personally. If you're against all medical socialization, that's one position. But singling out one procedure/medication over others reeks of alterior motives.

That's what all the sluts say.

(I saw that.)

And what about Viagra?

Personally, I think there should be no contraception. Women should get pregnant, and have abortions, or the fathers can pay support, or the mothers can become welfare queens, and the kids can grow up to become criminals. That'll teach 'em and save us money.

Come out and take it you dirty slut, or I'll give it to you through the door!

It's being reported that Limbaugh has lost 36 sponsors in the fall out of all this, along with 2 radio stations.

Doesn't matter Lamplighter. Other advertisers would be more than happy to fill the vacuum. Look at this:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/polit...imbaugh/49561/

That would be hilarious. hahaha

:D

Irony and hypocrisy - the best forms of entertainment, sprinkled with occasional puns

Actually, it's true. Just like Sandra Fluke's case example, I was on birth control pills from the age of 15 for medical non-contraceptive reasons. I am the very definition of a slut, here.