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dar512 05-16-2012 01:17 PM

If you think racism is in the past
 
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classicman 05-16-2012 01:38 PM

Dude - Whats up with the dar return?

Racism is dying a long slow death. It will never be completely eradicated, but over time the numbers will be so small as to not be significant.

I hope thats not you or your friend/son/brother.... in that pic.

Either way - good to see you posting again.

dar512 05-16-2012 01:50 PM

Slim time to post. No time to hang out and read.

Oops. My fingers got ahead of my brain again.

piercehawkeye45 05-16-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 811859)
Racism is dying a long slow death. It will never be completely eradicated, but over time the numbers will be so small as to not be significant.

What type of racism? Typical American/European racism? :p:

xoxoxoBruce 05-16-2012 02:17 PM

Never... screw those Euro toting faggots. :p: :haha:

Spexxvet 05-16-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 811859)
...Racism is dying a long slow death. It will never be completely eradicated,...

That there is a contradiction.

classicman 05-16-2012 03:37 PM

Selective quoting now? WTF?
keep the rest (below) and it makes perfect sense.
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but over time the numbers will be so small as to not be significant.

Spexxvet 05-16-2012 04:20 PM

Dead, but not dead. Alive, but small enough as to not be significant, but alive. Dying, never to die, merely to become as to not be significant. There, but only a shadow. A veritable pimple on the ugly ass of the caucazoid majority.

Dying,

slowly.

Never completely eradicated.

small numbers

insignificant...

but not dead.

:artist:
*fingers snapping*

classicman 05-16-2012 04:23 PM

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Spexxvet 05-16-2012 04:57 PM

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Stormieweather 05-17-2012 09:23 AM

Way to hijack the thread, boys.

:lame:

Now no one's thinking about racism (dead or alive), they're all watching you two squabble.

:eyebrow:

infinite monkey 05-17-2012 09:24 AM

Dead people are really offended.

classicman 05-17-2012 12:10 PM

You two???
Reread what transpired again.

Gravdigr 05-17-2012 01:56 PM

I'm getting closer every day to becoming anti people.

People suck, fuck everybody.

Sundae 05-17-2012 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 811859)
Racism is dying a long slow death. It will never be completely eradicated, but over time the numbers will be so small as to not be significant.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 811870)
That there is a contradiction.

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 811882)
Selective quoting now? WTF?

Spexx, Classic's post makes complete sense to me. Racism as a widespread political/ social/ personal motivator will slowly cease to exist. At least I hope so. But there will always be those who follow behind social/ economic and political trends. The Amish for example - their numbers are so small as to not be significiant. And the influence of the Mormons...

Many Christians still think The Gays were what destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, rather than a lack of hospitality to Angels. And also forget Lot got off scott-free both for destroying his wife and laying with his daughters. Go figure. People's minds are messed up.

Classic, I don't really think it was selective quoting.
I got what you both said.

And Dar - that linked article lacks an awful lot of information.
I am not saying racism does not exist. But if two of the friends live in the neighbourhood and one close by (the way I read it) it seems like an excessively violent racial attack that happened for no other reason in an integrated area.

I know there are racist arseholes out there. I know they can spur eachother on. The same way there are men out there who gang rape with no previous convictions. So I am laying blame or casting aspersions. I am just questioning the lack of details in the account.

Gravdigr 05-17-2012 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 812029)
And also forget Lot got off scott-free both for destroying his wife and laying with his daughters.

I thought God destroyed Lot's wife (Ado or Edith) by turning her into a pillar of salt for looking back?

ZenGum 05-17-2012 07:07 PM

No, that was a typo. she was looking black.

Racism, like homophobia, is alive and kicking.

piercehawkeye45 05-17-2012 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 812029)
Spexx, Classic's post makes complete sense to me. Racism as a widespread political/ social/ personal motivator will slowly cease to exist. At least I hope so. But there will always be those who follow behind social/ economic and political trends. The Amish for example - their numbers are so small as to not be significiant. And the influence of the Mormons...

I disagree. I see racism, like sexism and other social doctrines, as dynamic doctrines that fluctuate and change with time depending on the social conditions. The stereotypical white/black racism has certainly decreased in the past 70 years but even that has changed from a very direct racism to an indirect "no one to blame" type racism. Although, especially from talking to peers my age, I don't see the white/black racism disappearing as long cultural tensions exist since that is, in my opinion, the main factor keeping it alive today.

I don't think we can guess where it will head either. If cultural tensions and the inequality gap between white and black Americans decrease a full integration of the two groups may eventually happen. On the other hand, if social conditions go to complete shit then I would expect people to act like they always have: blame the group that is different from them.

Also, just because white/black racism is the most observed doesn't mean it can be labeled as racism in its entirety. The history of the US is a great example of different types of racism. Anglo-Saxxons used to be very racist against the Irish, Poles, and Scandinavians, but today most people couldn't tell if you are 100% Irish, Polish, or Swedish unless you have an accent. The elimination of those types of racism occurred because culturally they combined while this didn't happen with blacks, natives, or Hispanics.

TheMercenary 05-17-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 812018)
I'm getting closer every day to becoming anti people.

People suck, fuck everybody.

:thumb:

TheMercenary 05-17-2012 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 812096)
I disagree. I see racism, like sexism and other social doctrines, as dynamic doctrines that fluctuate and change with time depending on the social conditions.

Who cares. Most people don't. Well except for Jessie Jackson and Al "Brawley" Sharpton. It is bullshit. The Man is President. He may be a White-Black Man (Like Zimmerman the White-Hispanic) but "The Man" is now a black dude. It's over.

Sundae 05-18-2012 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 812070)
I thought God destroyed Lot's wife (Ado or Edith) by turning her into a pillar of salt for looking back?

Yebbut, God gave him rules. He disobeyed. Who suffered? His wife - wiped out for no reason apart from Lot's behaviour.

Not saying God's unfair or anything... just that he doesn't value women or children.

Rhianne 05-18-2012 03:54 AM

[quote=TheMercenary;812100]Who cares. Most people don't. QUOTE]

Do you mean 'most people' or most people like you?

I think you're right, most people don't care, but all of those who understand what the problem is with racism do care.

I find it very strange when I read that folk think that the whole of the world's race related issues have been solved in one go when one country elects a half-black (no one ever says half-white) president.

Aliantha 05-18-2012 05:55 AM

I have never gotten that impression from anyone Rhianne. (about the black president thing) I know some people, myself included, see it as an indication that times are changing, but not that all the problems are solved.

Gravdigr 05-19-2012 03:56 PM

I have white skin. According to the latest census 'minority' births now outnumber 'white' births.

I am now a minority.

Wheeeeeeeere's mah special prgrams?
Wheeeeeeeere's mah NAAWP?
Wheeeeeeeere's mah check?

Gravdigr 05-19-2012 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 812136)
Yebbut, God gave him rules. He disobeyed. Who suffered? His wife - wiped out for no reason apart from Lot's behaviour.

Not saying God's unfair or anything... just that he doesn't value women or children.

But, she's the one who looked back. If she hadn't looked back...

DanaC 05-19-2012 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 812336)
I have white skin. According to the latest census 'minority' births now outnumber 'white' births.

I am now a minority.

Wheeeeeeeere's mah special prgrams?
Wheeeeeeeere's mah NAAWP?
Wheeeeeeeere's mah check?

No you're not. Not yet. Takes a while for the birthrate to have a strong impact on demographics. The largest single group in America, at a little over half the population, is still whitey :p

tw 05-19-2012 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 812338)
The largest single group in America, at a little over half the population, is still whitey

Was. That has changed with the popularity of tanning saloons.

After all, racism is only about a first impression. So many want to be the pretty people.

TheMercenary 05-19-2012 09:03 PM

[quote=Rhianne;812139]
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 812100)
Who cares. Most people don't. QUOTE]

Do you mean 'most people' or most people like you?

I don't care.

Quote:

I find it very strange when I read that folk think that the whole of the world's race related issues have been solved in one go when one country elects a half-black (no one ever says half-white) president.
Or when they elect a half White-half truly African American President but yet continue to call him "Black" and call Zimmerman a "White-Hispanic".

Clodfobble 05-19-2012 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae
Yebbut, God gave him rules. He disobeyed. Who suffered? His wife - wiped out for no reason apart from Lot's behaviour.

Not saying God's unfair or anything... just that he doesn't value women or children.

The angels said "Don't look back" to Lot, his wife, and his daughters all in a group. Lot's wife was the only one who looked back, so she turned into a pillar of salt.

Not to say the ancient Jewish culture valued women and children all that much after all. I mean, in the very next passage God condones it when Lot's daughters get him drunk and have sex with him, because there's no one else around to get them pregnant as God inherently wants them to be.

TheMercenary 05-19-2012 10:18 PM

You say that like it is a bad thing.... :lol:

Sundae 05-20-2012 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 812337)
But, she's the one who looked back. If she hadn't looked back...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 812390)
The angels said "Don't look back" to Lot, his wife, and his daughters all in a group. Lot's wife was the only one who looked back, so she turned into a pillar of salt.

My apols.
I was thinking of Orpheus and Eurydice :)

Pete Zicato 05-20-2012 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 812346)
Was. That has changed with the popularity of tanning saloons.

You made me laugh with that one.

Spexxvet 05-21-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 812336)
I have white skin. According to the latest census 'minority' births now outnumber 'white' births.

I am now a minority.

Wheeeeeeeere's mah special prgrams?
Wheeeeeeeere's mah NAAWP?
Wheeeeeeeere's mah check?

You'll get your check when white people have been treated by the majority the way white people have treated minorities for the same length of time. Not one minute before.

Now get your thumb out of your mouth and get a job.;)

Gravdigr 05-21-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 812599)
...get a job.;)

Don't need one. Done my bit.

Start a business. Sell it. Good luck!

Gravdigr 05-21-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 812336)
I have white skin. According to the latest census 'minority' births now outnumber 'white' births.

I am now a minority.

Wheeeeeeeere's mah special prgrams?
Wheeeeeeeere's mah NAAWP?
Wheeeeeeeere's mah check?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 812338)
No you're not. Not yet. Takes a while for the birthrate to have a strong impact on demographics. The largest single group in America, at a little over half the population, is still whitey :p

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 812599)
You'll get your check when white people have been treated by the majority the way white people have treated minorities for the same length of time. Not one minute before.

Yeah. Sigh. Didja really think I was headed down to da welfare office? Really?

JFC, people...would ya just think, think, if for only a fucking split second, before ya get on your fucking moral high horse?

Ya just might save yaself some effort.


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TheMercenary 05-21-2012 05:19 PM

Until we rid our nation of preferential treatment and government programs like "Affirmative Action" we will be a Nation of racist policy.

DanaC 05-21-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 812611)
Yeah. Sigh. Didja really think I was headed down to da welfare office? Really?

JFC, people...would ya just think, think, if for only a fucking split second, before ya get on your fucking moral high horse?

Ya just might save yaself some effort.


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I'd have thought my use of the word 'whitey' would have given away that I was meeting your humour with my own. The :p should have clued you in otherwise.

tw 05-21-2012 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 812618)
Until we rid our nation of preferential treatment and government programs like "Affirmative Action" we will be a Nation of racist policy.

Ironic from one who promoted hate of Muslims in Lower Manhattan.

BigV 05-21-2012 09:50 PM

Racism is alive and well today. It has a bright future too, because thinking is hard. Lots of people would prefer a simple wrong explanation because it's easier (to put on a bumper sticker) than a complex correct understanding because it's harder (to convey during a commercial break). Intolerance is rooted in laziness and fear, both of which are abundant and self-renewing; they are everlasting. Intolerance based on skin color is just one kind, an easy kind of intolerance. One that can be exercised at a distance.

Such rigid and simple discrimination may have been useful at one time when tribal conflict had mortal stakes, but it is completely maladaptive now. Absent knowledge of skin color, there are not many distinguishing characteristics that can be known that matter.

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Originally Posted by William Shakespeare channeling Shylock
I am a Jew. Hath not a Jew eyes? Hath not a Jew hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions; fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer as a Christian is? If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that. If a Jew wrong a Christian, what is his humility? Revenge. If a Christian wrong a Jew, what should his sufferance be by Christian example? Why, revenge. The villainy you teach me I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction.

Hate begets hate. Laziness begets laziness. We share our humanity regardless of such trivialities as skin color. But we are easily distracted by what is apparent from what is important.

Pete Zicato 05-21-2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 812654)
It has a bright future too, because thinking is hard.

This. Well, that and it's easier to blame someone else for your problems.

Spexxvet 05-22-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 812611)
Yeah. Sigh. Didja really think I was headed down to da welfare office? Really?

JFC, people...would ya just think, think, if for only a fucking split second, before ya get on your fucking moral high horse?

Ya just might save yaself some effort.


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Dood. I even used the winky smiley. Now get your thumb out of your ass and get a sense of humor.;):facepalm::stickpoke:beer::bolt::comfort:


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