SC: Creepy Guy
 

Once you start riding a certain route (bus, train, or subway) for a while, you tend to become more familiar with the people around you. Although sometimes, it's probably best that you DON'T know them.

Periodically, there is this guy that gets on the route 1 at Roosevelt Blvd. and Grant Ave. on the way home (this is relatively close to the end of the route...maybe a mile or two from my apartment). He looks unassuming...dresses in a suit, and wears a hat and overcoat. But of course, looks can be deceiving.

I'm no expert here, but the man appears to have Tourette's. Although, it's not like the "typical" Tourette's case (the person that yells cuss words at random...Rho used to deal with one of those at her old dialysis center). Maybe it's autism or a form of schizophrenia...or maybe just eccentricity. Basically, the guy will sit there and just start talking really loud, about something mundane. For example, the mantra last night was "Captain Picard was never a man! Captain Kirk was a man! There was never a time in which he was not a man!" And some other things in that vein...

I've dealt with plenty of strange folks in my day (after all, I hang out here and take public transit), but to be honest, this guy is kind of scary. Particularly because he rides to the end of the route, like I do. At the end of the line, the bus makes a left hand turn onto Red Lion Rd. from Academy Rd. and makes its last stop across from the police station. That area is a primarily-wooded area, and you have to walk a hundred feet or so over to the stoplight at Academy Road to cross back into civilization. One of these days, I'm afraid this guy is going to come up behind me and kill me or something. I just make sure to walk away from the bus quickly to cross Academy Rd.

Thank God he doesn't take the bus every day...maybe once a week. And he keeps to himself for the most part, so I can't really say much. But you never know...

if you find him threatening, you should preemptively kick his ass.

~james

Yeah, while saying something like, "Jim Kirk was a pussy! He HAD a pussy! There was never a time in which he did not have a pussy!"

Wolf, you on this thread?

Howard Stern had a Tourette's guy on a couple years back. This guy wouldn't swear, he would BARK.

My experience with Tourette's folks is that the words/actions are spasm-like...they just burst out.

This guy's words were said slowly, deliberately, and he pronounced them fully. That's why I'm wondering if it was maybe a version of schizophrenia, or just another strange-yet-relatively-normal SEPTA rider.

Speaking of Tourette's, I find that I really quite enjoy shouting obsene cusswords for no reason at all. It just feels really good, even if there's no one in the house but yourself. It's very rewarding. Although I can only do it safely in my home, and I don't do it uncontrollably.

I think my wife has picked up the habit. Just tonight, she's periodically opened the door and shouted, "You're a bitch! You're a dirty little bitch! Fuck you!", then closed the door again. All in good fun, of course. :) We entertain ourselves in strange ways.

(slang is lying comfortably on the doc's couch relaxing, breathing deeply)

I have a little quirk. I don't think there is a name for it but everytime I see or hear Bill Clinton, I involuntarily shout "MOTHER FUCKER"!! That in itself is bad enough, but then my finger twitches too!........................................(whispers quietly)...Am I crazy?

about the crazy guy on the bus ... without eyeballing him myself, I'd say Syc's guess about him being schizophrenic is probably correct (maybe bipolar with psychotic features if he keeps himself put together really well). He's likely just got a more interesting set of voices than many mentally ill clients. Delusions/voices related to a TV show (even one as wonderful as Star Trek) are VERY rare. It's usually more mundane stuff, like my family has been replaced by exact duplicates which are actually demons. I do have one guy we see coupla times a year who has Star Trek delusions, but they really go off into deep space and time travel and 9/11 and black helicopters ... not just Capt. Kirk is a man stuff.

I wouldn't be overly worried about him. He's interacting with his internal world for the most part, not the external one. The great majority of mentally ill people are nonviolent, and actually engage in violence at a lesser rate than the general population.

I'd worry more about the guy in the down jacket and the nikes who's seeming to pay WAY to much attention to his surroundings.

I think that you have spent too many years repressing your anger. I would, however, strongly recommend that you spend as little time as possible in hotbeds of liberalism ... no trips to Massachussetts, Maryland, or the People's Demokratic Republik of New Jersey. Try to forget that there is such a place as California. I can give you a referral to a hypnotist if you need additional help on that one ...

Of course you're not crazy, as you are merely stating the obvious. Clinton, by all objective standards, DID, in fact, fuck many a mother. Your outbursts are not delusional, but do indicate poor impulse control. I would avoid State Dinners and other formal affairs at which Secret Service agents are present, and at which you may have trouble resisting the urge to blurt the obvious.

But the extremely small number of dangerous mentally ill people kill/damage more than enough to bring their statistical average way up in comparison to the general population.

So, Sycamore, what this means is, carry a hammer on the bus with you just in case this nutjob* snaps like a rubberband. Just make sure it's not an assault hammer, or if it is, at least a post ban for political correctness.

* for those that are "shocked and appalled" by this term, insert the phrase mentally ill, or mentally handi-capable.

I enjoyed the book "Motherless Brooklyn". The main character is a guy with Tourettes- lots of ticks not just verbal. The author Jonathan Letham does an cool job describing the guy's inner experience- his repetitive loops. I bet you'd like it Syc. Lots of lush food references, cars, and an obsessive relationship involving a cell phone. I also think I heard its gonna be a movie soon.

Hey I should check if Raddick has a review of it on Amazon....mine is lacking...

Hey, I freely admit my neuroses...do you? ;)

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What about the time he ended up in Janice Lester's body in <i>Turnabout Intruder</i>? While she took over his body and did a poor burlesque of a raging queen?

This guy definately is a nutcase. Forget the hammer, get yourself a nice used .38 revolver or something.

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I suggested the hammer over a handgun because of the remote possibility that I may be on the same bus he is someday, and his confession that he can't shoot to save his ass in June. Accidently capping the driver doesnt help any of us.

So get yourself a rubber gun there mister. :)

A phaser might get him more respect in this case.

How would I explain that .38 to my boss?

I want that cane that Maggie mentioned before...now THAT sounds sweet.

You don't show the .38 to your boss so you don't have to explain it, silly.

I'm always thinking worst-case scenario...like if someone tries to assault me at work, and I have to pull it, then what?

Plus, given my girth at the moment, I'd have a hard time concealing it.

You probably wont have to fire it. Most assheads enjoy the intimidation factor and when you have a bead on them, they suddenly don't want to fight. If they are a drug crazed loon and don't recognize they will soon be shot, *shoot them* so they *do recognize* the scenario next time. :)

And then call the janitorial dept for cleanup.

As for the cane gun, I think it would work well for you. When you point the cane at the perp, he'll either laugh or be confused (until you touch one off in his face....see above).

Another handy hint ... if your assailant is any closer than 20 feet, he'll get to you before you get to your gun. Start your threat assessment early.

Syc, you only just started working for Manny, Moe, and Jack ... are you ALREADY making that much of an impression on your coworkers? ;)

Girth is much less of a consideration than you might think with respect to carrying. Pick the right holster and you won't have a problem. Wear the pimpin' coat, and no one will EVER know ... I do find that I have different concerns than I used to when selecting clothing. Appropriate size and color are of course still WAY up there, but the "will it conceal the holster?" factor is really more significant. If the blouse isn't blousy enough ... wear a jacket or a vest. Or, as I've mentioned before, a good bellypack holster can be an important accessory, although I really dislike carrying in a purse or anything like it.

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Shooting a revolver accurately enough at self-defense distances is not a magical skill, it can be learned with less practice than you might think.

Amen. Get a nice long-barreled revolver, scope... you could easily put a shot through a barn at 10 yards. :)

Not that I have any great love for the brand, but Smith & Wesson just brought out a new revolver ... .50 cal, with a new cartridge type, apparently.

Creepy Guy Update
 

One of the regulars I ride the bus with in the morning had some interesting news regarding Creepy Guy.

Apparently, Creepy Guy got on the route 20 bus last night around 10 or 11ish. He was doing his usual thing, but apparently, he purposely farted on someone. The guy he did this to was apparently not in a good mood to begin with, and started ranting at him, while Creepy Guy stared at him.

A short time later, Creepy Guy got off. So did the guy he farted on. The guy proceeded to beat the hell out of Creepy Guy. Then the guy got back on the bus, and the bus drove away.

I feel bad for Creepy Guy, but at the same time, it's rather funny. I wish I would have been there.

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What the fuck was he thinking. There are millions of people that think that creepy guy and people like him have zero value in this world. They most likely still wouldn't hassle them, but when "creepys" pull shit like that, they're just begging to wake up dead in some dumpster or back alley.

I'm not trying to condone the actions of Creepy Guy here, and it's not like the offended guy could have necessarily known, but...

This guy could have some sort of mental issue (and I suspect that he does). For all we know, the guy may simply not be in his right mind. On the other hand, the asswhipper could have become the ass-whippee had Creepy Guy become completely unstable.

And truth be told, anybody that saw the fight is a witness to an assault. You may not like someone farting on you, but I'm not sure if that's justification to whip his ass.

Still though...funny stuff.

The harsh reality is that no one really cares about creepys. Their creepiness is a byproduct of the mental illness that keeps them from knowing how vulnerable they are (IMO).

I've seen em in my travels but have never had any problems with them. If one of them farted on me, there would be *some* type of retaliation. Maybe not at the moment, but sometime, from up close or far away. Thats unacceptable.

Watch it there pardner...some folks may find you creepy. :)

<H2>*SOME*!?</H2>

(I have to try harder)

Condolences to Creepy Guy. I hope somebody at least got him cleaned up and on his way to where he was going.

And while I know it probably won't happen, I hope that at least karmic justice is served upon the guy who beat him up.

Thinking this over VERY carefully ... I've been bled on, spit at, pissed on, and even on one rare occasion ended up with some strangers shit on my shirt, but I don't think I've EVER been farted on. That I would find funny. Harmless by comparison, actually. Hell, I'd PREFER it to the alternatives.

(trying to figure out if getting beat up because you farted on someone crosses the line into behavior sufficiently suicidal to get you committed ... that would be a clear NO in Philadelphia, but if the behavior witness wrote the petition JUST right, I'd probably sign a warrant in my county.)

My Sophomore year in High School, my English teacher had Tourette's. Damn she was annoying.

However, if you tapped your pencil on your desk repeatedly, she would blink in time with your pencil and it would drive her crazy.