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Trilby 01-04-2013 07:26 PM

I don't always smoke....
 
...but when I do, I blow it out my nostrils.

footfootfoot 01-04-2013 07:41 PM

I like the expression "Blow it out your bunghole"

Ibby 01-04-2013 07:51 PM

I'm the opposite; I adore french inhaling. Probably Warren Zevon's fault. but I almost always exhale orally.

Chocolatl 01-04-2013 08:04 PM

My mom used to blow her cigarette smoke out of her nostrils when I was a kid. It freaked me out because I thought she looked like an enraged bull in a cartoon.

Trilby 01-04-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chocolatl (Post 846466)
My mom used to blow her cigarette smoke out of her nostrils when I was a kid. It freaked me out because I thought she looked like an enraged bull in a cartoon.

Ferdinan!

Aliantha 01-04-2013 09:26 PM

I always used to blow my smoke from my mouth and upwards so it didn't make my whole body smell.

It worked somewhat. Didn't help my smokers breath though.

Oh and..

I don't always fart...

...but when I do I blow it out my bum hole.

jimhelm 01-05-2013 01:01 AM

Laf @ Ali..... Women don't fart, silly!

When you exhale nostrily, you absorb more of the nicotine.... But you fuck your sense of smell over. And then you can't tell when you stink.

I am a lefty smoker, but right handed. Why is this, you ask?

Smart phones. Thats why.

classicman 01-05-2013 01:14 AM

Day 6 here ... fuck you all and your talk of smoking... I'm literally thinking of twisting a post it note up and smoking that. JONESIN!

jimhelm 01-05-2013 01:22 AM

Just put your fingers up to your lips and inhale deeply through a tiny opening. That should sate the craving. After 6 days, you are no longer addicted to the nicotine. 2 more weeks to finish erasing the habit though. Stay strong!

classicman 01-05-2013 01:32 AM

Fuck you! :)
I've already gained about 10 lbs. I'm eating winter-fucking-green mints. WTF is a wintergreen anyway? I can't sleep... I'm eating everything in sight and I need coffee to remain conscious from 12-8pm.

OMFG ... I can't believe I did this years ago and now I'm doing it again. Fuckitty fuck fuck well this sucks.

lumberjim 01-05-2013 02:31 AM

don't make it harder than it is. if you really want to quit, you will. that's how you'll know if you really wanted to quit. when you DO or DO NOT.

I'm pulling for ya broseph. You can do this .... no sweat.

morethanpretty 01-05-2013 03:38 AM

I took up smoking but I hate it so I'm gonna quit.

Gravdigr 01-05-2013 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 846480)
...but when I do I blow it out my bum hole.

C'mon, now...always?

Gravdigr 01-05-2013 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimhelm (Post 846508)
Stay strong!

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 846513)
Fuck you!

:rotflol:

footfootfoot 01-05-2013 01:11 PM

Classic, chew gum. There's this dented bottle and can store near me that sells outdated food and weird shit from god knows where but they have about ten million friggin packs of gum and mints that are three for a dollar. I'm sure there's a place near you like that. If I didn't suck so much at mailing things to people (you all know who you are) I'd offer to send you a load of crap. Maybe if you sent me a SASE that would be easier. I could just hand it to my mail carrier.

Nirvana 01-05-2013 04:21 PM

26 years ago I quit smoking I have nightmares where I wake up sweating because I am smoking in my dreams. Anything is better than really smoking. Try to smoke only in your dreams Classicman.

Eat apples or oranges or prunes when you want a cigarette. Walk around the block. Just don't smoke. :eyebrow:

jimhelm 01-05-2013 05:31 PM

Once, when I was 4 months non smoking, I dreamed that I was smoking on an elevator! The shame!

footfootfoot 01-05-2013 08:47 PM

It's easier to kick heroin according to a friend who's done both and still smokes.

jimhelm 01-06-2013 02:04 PM

Only because you can buy smokes anywhere. You don't get painful diarreah and vomit for 5 days when you kick cigarettes.

Ibby 01-06-2013 03:54 PM

And cause most bars don't have a dozen or so people shooting up out front, etc, yeah.

footfootfoot 01-06-2013 04:08 PM

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Continuous exposure to tobacco: Nicotine substitutes for acetylcholine and over stimulates the nicotinic receptor. Then, the receptor is long-term inactivated and its regeneration is prevented by nicotine.
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Nicotine rises the stimulation of nicotinic receptors. The excessive and chronic activation of these receptors is balanced by a down-regulation in the number of active receptors. The reduction of the number of active receptors reduces the psychotropic effect of nicotine. Due to the phenomenon of tolerance, the smoker needs to smoke more and more cigarettes to keep a constant effect.
Nicotine activates dopamine systems within the brain. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter which is directly responsible for mediating the pleasure response. Nicotine triggers off the production of dopamine in the nucleus accumbens. A prolonged exposure of these receptors to nicotine reduces the efficiency of dopamine by cutting down the number of available receptors. Consequently, more and more nicotine is needed to give the same pleasurable effect.

After a brief period of abstinence (overnight for instance), the brain concentration of nicotine lowers and allows a part of the receptors to recover their sensibility. The return to an active state rises the neurotransmission to an abnormal rate. The smoker feels uncomfortable, which induces him to smoke again. The first cigarette of the day is the most pleasant because the sensibility of the dopamine receptors is maximal. Then, the receptors are soon desensitized and the pleasure wears off. This is the vicious circle of smoking.
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Like acetylcholine, nicotine leads to a burst of receptor activity. However, unlike acetylcholine, nicotine is not regulated by your body. While neurons typically release small amounts of acetylcholine in a regulated manner, nicotine activates cholinergic neurons (which mainly use acetylcholine to communicate to other neurons) in many different regions throughout your brain simultaneously. This stimulation leads to:

Increased release of acetylcholine from the neurons, leading to heightened activity in cholinergic pathways throughout your brain. This cholinergic activity calls your body and brain to action, and this is the wake-up call that many smokers use to re-energize themselves throughout the day. Through these pathways, nicotine improves your reaction time and your ability to pay attention, making you feel like you can work better.
Stimulation of cholinergic neurons promotes the release of the neurotransmitter dopamine in the reward pathways of your brain. This neural circuitry is supposed to reinforce behaviors that are essential to your survival, like eating when you're hungry. Stimulating neurons in these areas of the brain brings on pleasant, happy feelings that encourage you to do these things again and again. When drugs like cocaine or nicotine activate the reward pathways, it reinforces your desire to use them again because you feel so at peace and happy afterwards.
Release of glutamate, a neurotransmitter involved in learning and memory - Glutamate enhances the connections between sets of neurons. These stronger connections may be the physical basis of what we know as memory. When you use nicotine, glutamate may create a memory loop of the good feelings you get and further drive the desire to use nicotine.
Nicotine also increases the level of other neurotransmitters and chemicals that modulate how your brain works. For example, your brain makes more endorphins in response to nicotine. Endorphins are small proteins that are often called the body's natural pain killer. It turns out that the chemical structure of endorphins is very similar to that of heavy-duty synthetic painkillers like morphine. Endorphins can lead to feelings of euphoria also. If you're familiar with the runner's high that kicks in during a rigorous race, you've experienced the "endorphin rush." This outpouring of chemicals gives you a mental edge to finish the race while temporarily masking the nagging pains you might otherwise feel.
Heroin only bumps up endorphins.

classicman 01-06-2013 10:16 PM

Thanks all...
I'm in the avoidance phase... If it doesn't exist, I'm good.
Lets watcha movie - fuckers smoking. Meh, Lets watch some football...
My neighbor comes over after obviously just having smoked & sits next to me to watch the game. Really? REALLY?
Luv ya bud, but you gotta GTFO. I can't handle it right now. He left. That was awkward. Oh well.


Oh, and those electric whatever fake cigarettes.... WORST THINGS EVER.

ZenGum 01-06-2013 10:42 PM

Carrot sticks?

classicman 01-06-2013 11:08 PM

Yuppers, by the dozens. I find myself craving salty snacks too.
I got some veggie sticks. Those are nice as well. Sunflower seeds and mints. All that seems to help keep the oral fixation at bay without being too unhealthy.

Trilby 01-13-2013 11:51 AM

teh smoking IS a bitch; that's the one thing I never got hooked on...everything else, from shopping to demerol-yes. Oh, gambling. I'm AFRAID I'll get hooked so I don't buy those scratch off cards.

It's funny classic----you notice cigs all around you- I notice drinking. Watch one episode of BBT and see how much they drink. It's almost in every scene. It's also put forward as a panacea to every problem; even Raj's problem talking with girls. Penney uses it nearly constantly at work and home. People BOND over alcohol, become friends, intimate, funny, etc. that's the message. I wonder what heroin's message would be? hey, you'll sleep really great for about 15 hours and then wake up having shat your pants and wanting to throw up!! meh. I'm just pissed off because AA isn't working and cannot envision a future and I'm lonely.

so. sorry to hijack your thread :(

Sundae 01-13-2013 02:07 PM

I never got addicted to cigarettes. Lucky I suppose.
I can have one or two if I'm offered, but no worries, no craving afterwards. I can happily go outside to get fresh air with someone who wants to smoke and not be tempted to have one.

But I dream about drink all the time now.
The dreams are shameful.
I am drinking neat spirits in a car at lunchtime with a colleague, worrying if I am safe to go back into school.
I am drunk at a family funeral and slurring my words as I give a eulogy.
I am having a bit of a session in a pub and the fire alarm goes off and I remember I am responsible for my class but I can't find them all because I am drunk.

And so on.

Addiction, whether medical or psychological is hard to break. Because your brain - the very organ who thinks for you, colludes against you.

Trilby 01-13-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 847697)
I never got addicted to cigarettes. Lucky I suppose.
I can have one or two if I'm offered, but no worries, no craving afterwards. I can happily go outside to get fresh air with someone who wants to smoke and not be tempted to have one.

But I dream about drink all the time now.
The dreams are shameful.
I am drinking neat spirits in a car at lunchtime with a colleague, worrying of I am safe to go back into school.
I am drunk at a family funeral and slurring my words as I give a eulogy.
I am having a bit of a session in a pub and the fire alarm goes off and I remember I am responsible for my class but I can't find them all because I am drunk.

And so on.

Addiction, whether medical or psychological is hard to break. Because your brain - the very organ who thinks for you, colludes against you.

that's the rub. your actual brain, your OWN brain, is trying to kill you.

No one understands that except those of us afflicted---and not always then, either.

Sundae---I have those drinking/using dreams too. It's normal. it really, really, really is normal to have those dreams.

Aliantha 01-13-2013 04:59 PM

Trill, I am seriously wondering what we here can do to help you. Your posts here and on fb are becoming very worrying. I use the term becoming very loosely. They've been worrying for weeks now.

Your desperation is clearly evident.

What can we do?

classicman 01-16-2013 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Trilby (Post 847680)
so. sorry to hijack your thread :(

Sorry, my bad...


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