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Is too fucking cold.

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That sounds like the "cold air mass" that's been parked over our area for a week. only today have they lifted the burn ban due to zero wind. we didn't get that cold, but it did freeze for several days, highs in the mid thirties.

cuddle up, y'all.

High was 22.

I like living near salt water.

We were in the high 40's today

We're up at 30 at the moment. Heading to down to the mid 20s this aft.

Warmer than it's been the past few days!



[eta] normally I'd post in Celcius, but am assuming you guys are posting in fahrenheit, so have done same this time

-3 this fine brisk morning

7 F with a wind chill that takes it lower. Time to pull out the parka.

It took me a minute to realize you guys are talking Fahrenheit. I can't even wrap my brain around temperatures that cold!

41F here currently.

-10 yesterday. they delayed school for two hours. Family just moved down from Alaska was on local TV they were like WTF?!

HA! It's pretty hot here. 11pm and still around 70.

sometimes I wish for freezing temps.

What makes it worse was that it was in the 50s three days ago.:thepain:

It was 62 three days ago here, and 15 this morning when I walked a mile to the Metro. Too cold.

7° this morning. 1° last night.

It's 20° in the mud room/pantry.

When it's that cold outside, what temperature do you keep it inside your home?

ETA: It's 65F in my house and I am freezing my ass off. Obviously I can never again move outside of Florida.

My thermostat stays at 64, and I'm comfortable in a tshirt.... But spex is right....the sudden drop is the killer part. This is the first time I recall it being below 30 this year.

We keep our house at 62°-64°. We have 8" of blown cellulose insulation and thermal pane windows so the temp is pretty constant and there are almost no drafts. The house if pretty tight. An engineer friend of mine was explaining to me that our bodies radiate heat towards cold windows (heat moves to cold) and the bigger the temperature differential the more heat we radiate toward to cold (I think it is perceived) The upshot is, hang a curtain in your window and the room will seem less cold to you.

These folks know from cold. We are all soft bellies.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...st_read_module

I like radiant heat inside when it's cold outside. That's one thing I dislike about apartment living - no woodstove.

In Moosonee the winters were -40 and summers were 95 F. People liked the winter far more. BUT - we had indoor toilets! Outdoor toilets, NOOO!!! :eek:

Of course, the local Cree people went camping in winter with no complaint. So really, I am a wuss.

Bounced from 10 to 21 in only six hours, but looks like it'll stall there. They're saying maybe 32 on Sunday.
On the bright side, we've had jackshit for snow. Way better than the 90" we had a couple years ago. Usually when it gets real cold around here, any moisture freezes and falls before it can get here. It's that 28 to 32 degree weather can dump feets of the shit.

Below 32F here. But 15C is -9. Never experienced that in my life as far as I am aware.
But what can I say. Protected vale in maritime climate.

Too hot in the house.
Mum gone for the night, housesitting.
HURRAY! She's still ignoring me so the house feels nicer without her.
Currently 80F (27C). But Dad is revelling in it and as he pays the gas bills, who I am to cavil [melt, melt].

44 outside rfn.

♪ ♫ It's like a heatwave!! ♪ ♫

76 (!) inside, that's a little warm...usually more like 70/72.

Mine's at 69 right now. I usually get hot flashes at night and drop it to 66 then freeze my ass off in the morning.


My house is NOT well insulated and the windows are from the day it was built-1957. I get ice on the INSIDE of one window.

OK, you might as well have lived in Baffin Bay. Even if it was the southern end of Hudson Bay (James)

What on earth made you leave there and, more importantly, how did you manage that?

Trilby, consider sticking a layer of bubble-wrap over your windows. It lets in light but the layer of air really reduces heat loss.

I'd call it redneck double-glazing, except rednecks don't double glaze.

After a fashion...

Why did I leave? I went south for a planned C-section (long story). And it really wasn't a feasible long-term situation. Not quite sure what you mean about managing - do you mean leaving, or arranging to live there in the first place?

I'm impressed you located the place. You're about the first person south of Timmins, Ontario, who's managed that. :p:

No problems in paradice

I guess I was being facetious in asking why would you leave? I assumed you were raised there and that led me to wonder how one could escape from a place as rural as that. I can only begin to imagine how many otter pelts it would take to come up with not only trainfare from the hinterlands but also a couch to crash on while you found a job.

I sense a fascinating, if chilly, story.

oh and you should be impressed; I can highlight, rightclick, and search google with the best of them.

Protip:

Thanks, you've just improved my productivity by at least 33%!

Improved it or diminished it?

:lol: Neither fascinating nor romantic; I am no female Nanook of the North. Born in Sudbury, grew up in Ottawa; spent a year in Moosonee in payback to the government for a year's worth of loans during medical school. We had a choice of small northern towns but decided to pass on the CNR and Kimberley-Clark ghost towns along Lake Superior's north shore and go somewhere 'interesting'.

It was definitely interesting but not sustainable. A good experience for a year, though. Oh, and the Polar Bear Express (I kid you not, that's the name of the train that comes in three times a week) isn't the only way out. Seven-seater bush planes flew to Timmins regularly, and the 'big plane', the 47-seater, went once a week. The big plane was the only one that ever crashed.

Eta there were no roads in.

I like programs like this, since rural areas would get zero doctors otherwise, but you have to imagine it's a little frustrating to have a new, fresh-out-of-medical-school doctor every year. No continuity of care, no sense of "This looks like nothing, but if you really knew my medical history you would know there's more here than meets the eye." On the other hand, if you get a shitty argumentative doctor, at least you know he'll be gone in a year and you get to try again.

One of the most interesting (to me) TV programs on PBS
several years ago was about the 200 mile train ride north to Moosonee.

At the start, passengers were self-occupied with reading, sleeping, etc.
But as the journey lengthened, conversations between passengers began as you would expect.
The surprising thing was that gradually, the sound of one conversationwas overlaid with another.
It amazed to me that it was possible to follow the simultaneous conversations with no real trouble.
Then, even a third conversation was added to the mix.
This took some getting used to, but after a few minutes, it was again possible to follow all three conversations.
Granted, the topics were what you would expect among strangers, but the program was memorable.

The main line story after the train arrived in Moosonee
was the annual migration of polar bears through the town, and
I think it ended with nighttime scenes of bears at the town dump.

I've heard polar bears are very dangerous, more so than browns or even grizzles.
I've since wondered if and how the townspeople ever get used to the presence of their bears,
and just how dangerous they are in Moosonee.

I'll take my romance and fascination where I can find it. ;)

I've lost mine, so if you find some more do check it's really yours.

First snow of the season that stuck today. Enough that I had to brush of the car, but not much more.

The Polar Bear Express is definitely an experience. It was generally very sociable, as you say, and it would stop pretty well anywhere along the tracks if flagged down. Some people lived in extremely remote locations along the general vicinity of the tracks.

One story - my ex was asked one day to go in the medical helicopter to pick up a laboring woman whose husband had brought her from bush camp to a spot by the tracks and radioed for help. The helicopter pilot elected to land on a long high trestle bridge, in the center of the long span, because the bush was so dense everywhere else. They landed, shut down, and started walking toward the woman's husband at the end of the railway bridge, when the man began waving his arms and screaming. The train was coming.

There wasn't time for them to make it to the end of the bridge; they sprinted back to the helicopter, got it started, and pulled off the bridge JUST as the Polar Bear Express came through.

They did pick up the woman after that and she made it to the hospital on Moose Factory Island before delivering.

And polar bears ... they ARE the baddest bears. Not only are they the biggest; they fear nothing, and they won't just kill you if you surprise them or invade their territory, they will actively hunt you. Have you seen the documentaries on polar bears in Manitoba, where they take people to look at them in enormous tank-like CAT machines? You need a machine like that. The local people in Moosonee hunted just about everything but they stayed far away when the polar bears came around.

I have a phobia of bears and took my brother-in-law's shotgun to Moosonee with me. What an idiot! A bear would've regarded that shot as no more than black flies biting. :lol:

Fortunately we were never visited by any bears. They didn't come right into town the year we were there.

Polar bears are scary. Check out this series of pictures at the link.

Spoiler: The guy made it inside the red truck before being eaten.
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Scary indeed.

Whenever I see pics of people in dangerous situations, I think to myself:

"... and who and where was the person taking the pictures ? "

yeah... not many animals will attempt to kill something nearly their own size to eat.

Most bear attacks are territorial or cub protection. Polar bears are trying to EAT YOU.

like a Lion or a Shark. you're food, bro. get in mah belleh.

It was clearly the man's fault.

He was on the bear's lawn.

Most bears see people as a danger, triggering flight or fight.
Polar Bears see people as food.

I've seen a doco where some whales (several tons each) got trapped by shifting ice and had to surface to breathe at one small hole in the sea ice.

Polar bears gathered around, and as the whales came up, they would jump in and attack. Eventually, there was a dead whale, dragged up onto the ice, with a few bears feasting on it.

:eek:

Aussie animals will generally sting you and leave you to die, but only if you piss them off by stepping on them or something. Sharks might bite you by mistake, but the only serious human-eating predators are the crocs, which can't hunt on land. We don't have anything that will actively hunt you down and kill you because it wants to.

Except Ivan Milat, and he's in prison.

Could Ivan beat a polar bear in a cage match?

I think we should put Ivan and a polar bear in a cage and find out.

I would fight a bear before I laid down and played dead. It would probably get me killed, but goddamn it, I'm not food.

not yet.

Also, the play dead trick ... I've seen (docos of) polar bears scavenging. Like, months old rotting rancid whale carcass. Does the play dead trick work with polars?

With non-polar bears, I reckon if Jim stood up tall and wide and roared a bit, there's fair chance a bear would back off. Predators can often be quite wary in choosing prey. Unless they're really hungry. Which they often are. Especially bears, what with that hibernation and all.

Ok, Jim, if you get attacked by a bear, the first thing you must do is look around to see if there are any berries about.

Big Browns and Grizzles, try to play dead.
Blacks, fight like hell.
Polars, you're fucked.

whs

Why are polar bears so aggressive as to eat man meat? They are descendants of the Brown bear; maybe it's just too slim pickings up there for them.

Oh, it's just undernourished, you see. As in, hungry. So don't worry, after the polar bear mauls you, we know for sure that it will also eat you, and won't just leave you lying there as a message to the rest of us. It's not a complete bastard--they use every part of the human, you know.

"Some times you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you."

And then there's Grizzly Man


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grizzly_Man
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427312/

yeah, that guy was crazy.

You know, they say the jungle gets to people; I think any isolated wild place will eventually drive a person mad, bad or insane. Heart of Darkness stuff.

I heard there was video of the bear attacking him but of course it's never been shown.

I saw video of a 'trained' bear who killed a guy who just wanted his pic taken with the bear---the guy made an unexpected move and the bear looks like he hardly touched him but he killed him. Was v. sad and sorry---the guy was the cousin of the 'bear trainer'-----this particular bear was in a Will Ferrell movie...can't recall the name....

There's audio of the killing. The guy dropped the camera. The bear ate him and his GF. And it was a sickly, malnourished bear who failed to put on enough weight and go into hibernation when all the other bears did. It was desperate.

Yikes.


I guess Stephen Colbert is right. The number one threat to America is - bears

This discussion doesn't help my phobia at all, you know.

Just sayin' ....

It's not phobia of it is rational.


Now, drop bears, you don't even want to hear about...

At last, science has discovered why Polar Bears are so dangerous... they're Irish. :p: