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Spexxvet 12-04-2013 09:11 AM

Other than smoking it ...
 
I want to ingest some herb without smoking it. There are various recipes on the internet, but I was wondering if any Dwellars had insight when it comes to alternative to smoking.

So ........ do you?

infinite monkey 12-04-2013 09:28 AM

Suppository.

fargon 12-04-2013 09:46 AM

I have had cookies, brownies, and spaghetti sauce. All have been very effective. Spaghetti sauce being the easiest, just add the weed like you would an other spice, it adds a flavor that I like, but some people don't. The down side what ever recipe you use is that it takes about 2-4 hours to come on, but when it does it is intense.
http://boards.cannabis.com/recipes/1...marijuana.html

Undertoad 12-04-2013 09:50 AM

Vaporizers

footfootfoot 12-04-2013 11:10 AM

make butter.

Gravdigr 12-04-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 884968)

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 884962)
I want to ingest some herb without smoking it.


Gravdigr 12-04-2013 03:11 PM

Dude, are you wanting to get high, or just want the benefit of the weed without the buzz?

DanaC 12-04-2013 03:24 PM

I never liked ingesting it. When I smoke I can feel it coming on. I just smoke a few puffs, then leave it a little, and if I start to feel it I can choose whether to keep smoking or set it aside for a while.

Eating it, you're committed. If you happen to have a strong batch, or you happen to be particularly susceptible to the effects on that night, then you can end up getting a lot higher than you might want to be.

In that sense it's almost more like a trip.

That said, I have had some pleasant encounters with the cooked stuff.

If you're going to try it, start small and test the waters.

Clodfobble 12-04-2013 04:30 PM

Some friends in college, all newbies, baked a big batch of brownies based on an online recipe. They all spent the next 24 hours vomiting. Be careful with ingesting.

Undertoad 12-04-2013 05:01 PM

Vaporizers are not smoking.

Gravdigr 12-04-2013 05:17 PM

'Splain.

ETA: Please.

xoxoxoBruce 12-04-2013 05:25 PM

Follow his link.

Undertoad 12-04-2013 06:10 PM

Instead of lighting it on fire, vaporizers heat air going through the material until the active ingredients become vapor. They vaporize at a lower temperature than gets produced when the material is lit.

Big Sarge 12-05-2013 06:29 AM

what type of herb? oregano or thyme?

lumberjim 12-05-2013 09:25 AM

i saw a show about a guy that makes juice out of the leaves. lots and lots of fresh leaves. has medicinal benefits, but no high.

Spexxvet 12-05-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 884965)
Suppository.

Can you help me out with that? Don't forget the HAZMAT suit.;)

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 884987)
Dude, are you wanting to get high, or just want the benefit of the weed without the buzz?

What is this "without the buzz" of which you speak?

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 885035)
Instead of lighting it on fire, vaporizers heat air going through the material until the active ingredients become vapor. They vaporize at a lower temperature than gets produced when the material is lit.

Tried this, did not work. My old smoking buddy (like high school old) has an unknown issue with his lungs. Neither of us had smoked for 10 or more years. Recently, I bought some, and when we lit up, he coughed to the point where he couldn't breathe. We had access to a vaporizer, but he had the same reaction.

We tried tea (blech!) which didn't work. I checked on line and got some ideas - the butter does sound easiest, Foot - but I knew I would get invaluable info from you folks.

Spexxvet 12-05-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fargon;884967[url
http://boards.cannabis.com/recipes/100054-spaghetti-marijuana.html[/url]

Thanks. Looks yummy.

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Originally Posted by fargon (Post 884967)
but when it does it is intense.

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 884990)
... Eating it, you're committed. If you happen to have a strong batch, or you happen to be particularly susceptible to the effects on that night, then you can end up getting a lot higher than you might want to be.

In that sense it's almost more like a trip.

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 885007)
Some friends in college, all newbies, baked a big batch of brownies based on an online recipe. They all spent the next 24 hours vomiting. Be careful with ingesting.

It's been so long that I have some anxiety about all these things.

DanaC 12-05-2013 10:09 AM

The other way is to warm it a little and crumble into a yoghurt.

Gravdigr 12-05-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 885060)
It's been so long that I have some anxiety about all these things.

If you're already anxious...

...heeeere's your sign.

Gravdigr 12-05-2013 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 885035)
Instead of lighting it on fire, vaporizers heat air going through the material until the active ingredients become vapor. They vaporize at a lower temperature than gets produced when the material is lit.

Yeah, been smoking dope for over thirty years, I know how vaporizers work...

Boiled right down, vapor is vapor, was kinda my leaning, there.

It's still smoke. And he said he didn't wanna smoke, is all I was getting at.

Undertoad 12-05-2013 04:25 PM

Tobacco smokers smokin' those e-cigs indoors, is what I noticed, you notice that?

Gravdigr 12-05-2013 04:40 PM

Not in our bars/restaurants. They will, and do, ask you to leave.

Undertoad 12-05-2013 04:57 PM

fuckin nazis

lumberjim 12-06-2013 01:24 AM

I keep an e cig I'm my office for when I'm too busy to pop out back for a smoke between deals. I find that what I actually like about going out back after a deal is the 4 minutes of no one bugging me for every little goddamned Fucking thing.

lumberjim 12-06-2013 01:40 AM

Oh, and spex....

Eating thc laced food is not fun. You get way too high for way too long. It comes in waves like adrenaline rushes. Last time I did it was July 4th 08 or 9....at 5pm I ate half a cookie. ... waited 45 minutes, nothing. Ate another half...at 6:30 I wondered if they were bunk...by 7pm, my eyes were pink, my mouth was dry and sticky, and I was afraid to light a bottle rocket. I spent the next 5 hours gripping the arms of my chair and doing deep breathing exercises to get through the waves of panic that crashed over me. I remember it being 1 am and wondering if it would ever end. At that point I ate another dinner and Shit began to calm down again.

Whoever said it is more like tripping is right. Maybe if I had been playing Frisbee, or Hackey Sack, I would have dealt better. ... but hiding up in our fortress of solitude was a tense endeavor. I'll never eat it again, to be sure.

Spexxvet 12-06-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 885144)
...I spent the next 5 hours gripping the arms of my chair and doing deep breathing exercises to get through the waves of panic that crashed over me. I remember it being 1 am and wondering if it would ever end.
...

Fuck! That's why I stopped smoking in the early 80s. I really don't want to go there again. I might have to smoke this myself and my friend will have to figure himself out.

infinite monkey 12-06-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 884965)
Suppository.

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 885058)
Can you help me out with that? Don't forget the HAZMAT suit.;)

Supposin' I do? ;)





I will help you smoke it, really. I'd do that for you, my friend.

And I don't know about y'all with your "I ate some and I thought I was on acid for 4 days" stuff. I think you must be buying it from 1986. Does eatin' it make it stronger?

footfootfoot 12-06-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 884965)
Suppository.

...and for all the good it did me I might just as well have shoved it up my ass...
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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 885144)
Oh, and spex....

Eating thc laced food is not fun. You get way too high for way too long. It comes in waves like adrenaline rushes. Last time I did it was July 4th 08 or 9....at 5pm I ate half a cookie. ... waited 45 minutes, nothing. Ate another half...at 6:30 I wondered if they were bunk...by 7pm, my eyes were pink, my mouth was dry and sticky, and I was afraid to light a bottle rocket. I spent the next 5 hours gripping the arms of my chair and doing deep breathing exercises to get through the waves of panic that crashed over me. I remember it being 1 am and wondering if it would ever end. At that point I ate another dinner and Shit began to calm down again.

Whoever said it is more like tripping is right. Maybe if I had been playing Frisbee, or Hackey Sack, I would have dealt better. ... but hiding up in our fortress of solitude was a tense endeavor. I'll never eat it again, to be sure.

Ohh hell yes.

I once made a huge batch of brownies with some ditch weed my buddy and I had. Like a few ounces. We ate a brownie and nothing, half hour later we ate another. still nothing, so we smoked some hash and forgot about the brownies until an hour or so later when we got the munchies and ate the entire pan of brownies.

NOT GOOD. I was seriously bugging, horrible horrible experience. I was terrified of everything. I walked home at 3:00 am in the middle of the street because I was sure I was going to be jumped from behind a car or tree. I slept it off for a couple of days.
Fucking horrible.

Go slowly and figure out a dose incrementally. Allow several hours to peak.

DanaC 12-06-2013 02:00 PM

And make sure you have some unadulterated munchies about..

sexobon 12-06-2013 05:56 PM

Can't you just put it in sugar cubes? Mary Poppins said that a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down and she was always flying in a most delightful way.

Gravdigr 12-07-2013 05:34 PM

Jesus Christ on a pogo stick...Some of you folks need to stay the hell away from weed. The way it affects/effects some of ya, I'd pay a fair amount of money to watch ya get good and geeked on some fine Peruvian Marching Dust. You'd prolly never come down.

God damn, people, it's weed. I've used it every way there is to use it, never got nothing but high.

Then again, there may be some hyperbole in some of those posts.

Clodfobble 12-07-2013 05:59 PM

I admit, it's entirely possible that my friends in college all vomited for a day because they used expired eggs or a moldy brownie mix, or something. All I know is what I saw, which was a lot of brownies where no brownies ought to be.

Gravdigr 12-08-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 885289)
...which was a lot of brownies where no brownies ought to be.

I like the way you put that.:lol2:

Molasar 12-29-2013 07:38 PM

I thought I'd stumbled on a light-web version of Silk Road for a moment.

I've just read this thread from start to finish and it's been a PMSL trip better than I could have hoped :)

it's not been helped by the fortuitous wording of @Gravdigr's signature, that's a follow-through event in a, ahem, medical thread like this.

Gravdigr 12-30-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Molasar (Post 887568)
...it's not been helped by the fortuitous wording of @Gravdigr's signature, that's a follow-through event in a, ahem, medical thread like this.

The Cellar, and myself, have worked very hard over the years to earn every word of that signature.

:D

Undertoad 12-30-2013 10:33 PM

this is a month ago but

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 885058)
when we lit up, he coughed to the point where he couldn't breathe. We had access to a vaporizer, but he had the same reaction.

So it worked then?

Sundae 12-31-2013 06:27 AM

I think it takes people different ways.
I like the long slow build of eating. I can keep walking and watching and observing and enjoying; yes, I'm basing much of my experience on my trip to Amersterdam.
Whereas a smoke makes me sleepy-bo very quickly. Or very silly-giggly with the right person.

But I have known people, people I trust, people with no reason to lie, who have been on much harder stuff, be affected by days after eating. Or sick as dogs.

Once you've finished school there's really no kudos in being able to ingest everything. So what if you can eat more boiled eggs than me?
Iron constitutions were lauded back when it was barely safe to drink the water. These days it gives a false sense of invulnerability, encourages excess and is only going to make you die quicker.

And when I say you, I mean I.

Spexxvet 12-31-2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 887761)
this is a month ago but



So it worked then?

I guess it depends on your definition of "worked"

It vaporized. It got me high. It made his lungs .... freeze? cramp? and he coughed until he puked.

I wouldn't call that successful for him, anyway.

Undertoad 12-31-2013 11:52 AM

Was it kinda crappy stuff?

Is he inexperienced?

Does he have bronchitis?

Spexxvet 12-31-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 887815)
Was it kinda crappy stuff?

I can't tell anymore
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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 887815)
Is he inexperienced?

Smoked rarely over the last 20 years. In our twenties we always had some with us.
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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 887815)
Does he have bronchitis?

No. But he's afraid he has compromised his lungs from 30 years of cigarettes, stopping about 10 years ago.

glatt 12-31-2013 12:21 PM

Instead of having a friend soliciting advice on the internet for him, maybe he should see a doctor to get his lungs checked out.

Lung cancer grows for a long time before the symptoms show up, and then it's too late. It's a nasty little fuck. Maybe his coughing until puking when smoking weed is a canary in the coal mine, and he should pay attention to this dead bird.

Does he get regular physicals at least?

Perhaps I'm being alarmist. Maybe he's fine. Generally, though, ignoring a health problem doesn't make it go away.

DanaC 12-31-2013 12:42 PM

I never got along with vaporisers. Made me cough more than smoking it did.

Spexxvet 01-01-2014 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 887822)
Instead of having a friend soliciting advice on the internet for him, maybe he should see a doctor to get his lungs checked out.

Lung cancer grows for a long time before the symptoms show up, and then it's too late. It's a nasty little fuck. Maybe his coughing until puking when smoking weed is a canary in the coal mine, and he should pay attention to this dead bird.

Does he get regular physicals at least?

Perhaps I'm being alarmist. Maybe he's fine. Generally, though, ignoring a health problem doesn't make it go away.

Not alarmist at all. His primary care physician kinda blew it off. He's trying to find a pulmonologist.


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