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anonymous 12-08-2014 09:22 AM

Things I'm tired of
 
I'm tired of being me.
I'm tired of fighting depression and anxiety.
I'm tired of being ignored to my face.
I'm tired of hanging by a thread.
I'm tired of being good when being bad netted better results.
I'm tired of health issues.
I'm tired of life.
I'm tired of hating myself.
I'm tired of being alone.
I'm tired of plugging away.
I'm tired that I'm tired of all these things, because all these things are dealt with by most of the population. Most people deal with life and put on a happy face. Most people accept it, some even seem to thrive.
But I'm tired of not being able to put on the happy face for the world. Scratch that, I'm tired of how tiring it is to put on the happy face, when mad face wants so much to be seen. And mad face is not attractive or acceptable.
I'm tired of knowing that if I hold on I will feel better. Because I will. Then I will feel badly again. I'm tired of waiting for that shoe to drop, all the tiring time.
I'm tired of hurting. I'm tired of being tired.

And I'm tired of knowing that I will feel ashamed for feeling tired of all these things. Tired of being embarrassed for feeling all these things. Tired of asking myself why I can't just be a normal human being, and tired of comparing myself to everyone else, all the time, always, and in every way, and always coming up short.

xoxoxoBruce 12-08-2014 09:38 AM

Up in the mornin', out on the job
Work like the devil for my pay
But that old Congressman, has nothin' to do
But make trouble for me all the day

Fuss with my woman, toil for my kids
Sweat till I'm wrinkled and gray
While that old Senator, has nothin' to do
But make trouble for me all the day

Good Lord, up above, can't you know I'm cryin'
Tears well up in my eyes?
Send down Social Security, with a Medicare linin'
Lift me to Paradise

glatt 12-08-2014 09:45 AM

You seem to have a pretty good handle on how you feel. That's not meant in a mocking or sarcastic way at all. I'm not sure how to put it in words, but you seem to really have good insight into how you feel and what it all means to you. What makes you tick. A lot of people just plug along, not aware of what's going on with them. I'm not sure if that's a good thing for you, or a curse.

I'm sorry you are tired. My hope for you is that you can be kinder and gentler to yourself. I suspect that you are your harshest critic. You might want to try to be your greatest cheerleader.

I read about a study recently that said that when you think about yourself or talk to yourself, you should actually use your name. People will say things like "I suck" much more readily than, "Glatt, you suck." If you throw your name in there first, the rest of the sentence is far more gentle than it would be if you used "I" to start it off. It may feel weird to talk to yourself in the 3rd person, but you actually listen to yourself when you do. And that gentleness actually makes you feel better and is more likely to be effective in a positive way.

lumberjim 12-08-2014 10:44 AM

I used to look around at other people and think.... they seem to have no worries... why am I struggling so much just to get by... everyone else has their shit together.

and then I went through some REAL shit.... and realized that EVERYONE feels like that sometimes, and NO ONE really has their shit together like we think they do. except maybe glatt... lol

not saying you haven't been through some real shit. just telling you that you're NOT unique in this way.

surrender to the reality. do not resist. accept it or change it. YOUR perception of a SITUATION as a PROBLEM is what is causing your suffering. resistance to reality is the source of suffering. get some buddha up in your brain

anonymous 12-08-2014 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 915810)
You seem to have a pretty good handle on how you feel. That's not meant in a mocking or sarcastic way at all. I'm not sure how to put it in words, but you seem to really have good insight into how you feel and what it all means to you. What makes you tick. A lot of people just plug along, not aware of what's going on with them. I'm not sure if that's a good thing for you, or a curse.

I'm sorry you are tired. My hope for you is that you can be kinder and gentler to yourself. I suspect that you are your harshest critic. You might want to try to be your greatest cheerleader.

I read about a study recently that said that when you think about yourself or talk to yourself, you should actually use your name. People will say things like "I suck" much more readily than, "Glatt, you suck." If you throw your name in there first, the rest of the sentence is far more gentle than it would be if you used "I" to start it off. It may feel weird to talk to yourself in the 3rd person, but you actually listen to yourself when you do. And that gentleness actually makes you feel better and is more likely to be effective in a positive way.

I do try to say my name. It does tend to soften things. "insertname" what did you just do?

Thanks for your comment. I think you understand more about being heard and not being discounted than any of the therapists I've tried.

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 915815)
I used to look around at other people and think.... they seem to have no worries... why am I struggling so much just to get by... everyone else has their shit together.

and then I went through some REAL shit.... and realized that EVERYONE feels like that sometimes, and NO ONE really has their shit together like we think they do. except maybe glatt... lol

not saying you haven't been through some real shit. just telling you that you're NOT unique in this way.

surrender to the reality. do not resist. accept it or change it. YOUR perception of a SITUATION as a PROBLEM is what is causing your suffering. resistance to reality is the source of suffering. get some buddha up in your brain

Yes, these things I know. I said in my post that I realize I am not unique (not in those words, no.) I know that things could be so much worse. And I acknowledged that things get better, then get worse again. I owned up to feeling envious of others even though I know everyone has their own stuff, and part of my problem I was venting about was that I can't seem to separate those feelings.

Maybe because I'm tired. :o

I thank you for your posts, and for not ignoring me or dismissing me outright. That helps, just that helps.

glatt 12-08-2014 12:42 PM

"Ignoring" a person conjures up an image of actively doing something. Of intentionality. "That person is ignoring me" sounds kind of like "that person is attacking me." But ignoring doesn't work that way. It's the absence of an action. It can be for any number of legitimate reasons, especially with internet posts, and many if not most of them have nothing to do with you. It's about what the other people out there are up to at the time you post your message.

So try to be kind to them as you also try to be kind to yourself.

lumberjim 12-08-2014 12:49 PM

I'm tired of waiting on hold for tech support. this is getting re goddmaned diculous.

45 minutes. 46. I opened this ticket on Dec 1. I called and left a message of WTF on the 4th. still no call back... and now 47 minutes on hold for these muckaluckas.

I pity the fool that finally answers the phucking phone.

xoxoxoBruce 12-08-2014 01:17 PM

Thinking some people have it worse doesn’t help. That’s like Mom saying, eat your Brussels sprouts because children in Africa are starving.
Thinking some people have it better doesn’t either. You don’t know, even if you know a lot about them, you don’t know what ties their gut in knots.

Look at your load of crosses to bear. Overwhelming? Break it down, and look at them one at a time.

1- Why is it a problem, why does it bother me?
2- Is this really a problem, or one of the another-damn-thing pile?
3- Is there someone I can blame to avoid self-loathing?
4- Can I fix it, how… (preferably without eating right, losing weight, sleeping more, exercising)?
5- Is there a drug that will fix it?
6- Is it really caused by another problem on the list? (check #2 again)
7- Evaluate/decide… how to fix it vs is it really a problem

WARNING – Fixing a problem may cause one or more new problems, or exacerbate one or more existing problems.

That process for each problem will entertain you for an entire sleepless night, and can be repeated as often as needed.

Gravdigr 12-08-2014 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anonymous (Post 915806)
I'm tired of being me.
I'm tired of fighting depression and anxiety.
I'm tired of being ignored to my face.
I'm tired of hanging by a thread.
I'm tired of being good when being bad netted better results.
I'm tired of health issues.
I'm tired of life.
I'm tired of hating myself.
I'm tired of being alone.
I'm tired of plugging away.
I'm tired that I'm tired of all these things, because all these things are dealt with by most of the population. Most people deal with life and put on a happy face. Most people accept it, some even seem to thrive.
But I'm tired of not being able to put on the happy face for the world. Scratch that, I'm tired of how tiring it is to put on the happy face, when mad face wants so much to be seen. And mad face is not attractive or acceptable.
I'm tired of knowing that if I hold on I will feel better. Because I will. Then I will feel badly again. I'm tired of waiting for that shoe to drop, all the tiring time.
I'm tired of hurting. I'm tired of being tired.

And I'm tired of knowing that I will feel ashamed for feeling tired of all these things. Tired of being embarrassed for feeling all these things. Tired of asking myself why I can't just be a normal human being, and tired of comparing myself to everyone else, all the time, always, and in every way, and always coming up short.

That. All of it.

You're singing my life.

footfootfoot 12-08-2014 05:06 PM

Strumming my pain
singing my life with anon's words
Killing me softly with anon's post

classicman 12-08-2014 09:25 PM

Wow, right there with ya.
Pretending life is great is my attempt at "fakin it till I'm makin it."

monster 12-08-2014 09:32 PM

me too :( except I'm only alone in the day. so I'm tired of being horrible to my family when they show up in the evening because the alone bit drove me insaner and all the bad things festered to exploding point. And I'm tired of pretending it's OK. because it's not

footfootfoot 12-08-2014 10:11 PM

I have finally begun asking people, when they ask how I'm doing, do you want the social answer or the real answer?

Surprisingly, they ask for the real answer and I tell them and with a huge sigh of relief they say, "Me too!" and then admit how tough it is to keep up social appearances when life is actually a big pile of crapulence.

monster 12-08-2014 10:21 PM

I tried that fff, but when they said "real" turned out they were lying. fuckers. my sister included, apparently.

lumberjim 12-08-2014 11:34 PM

Holy fuck, you guise...

Flint 12-09-2014 12:54 AM

Good post. When you know all of these things in crystal clarity, yet still are stuck there, hating yourself for being in a trap you know how you could theoretically get out of.

xoxoxoBruce 12-09-2014 01:01 AM

What? You're surprised?

In the 1950's small town on the 4th of July, people were honestly looking forward to the parade. Not much of a parade in a town of 2000, but you knew just about everyone there, and most of the people in it. They were all going to one cookout or another after, then a lot would come back for kids game competitions, or Men's softball tournament.

Wow, Dick Hatch got a new '58 Chevy convertible, triple black. There's talk of straightening the road down by the bend-o-rocks. There's a street light by the Town House now. Nobody thought much about space, the ocean, Africa, Asia, or much else except those damn commies and their A-bombs.

There's much to be said for fat, dumb, and happy.

I believe a primary reason the country has gone to hell is information overload. Too many things to worry about and media working hard at keeping you worried. People are fed up, and know, or at least strongly suspect, no matter how much money they make, no matter how many toys/trophies they acquire, life will still be it's same shitty self.

That's why you have to examine your burdens carefully, to make sure they're worth your worry, or you're beating yourself up unnecessarily.

Gravdigr 12-09-2014 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 915924)
There's much to be said for fat, dumb, and happy.

♪ ♫Now don't be sad, cause♪ ♫
♪ ♫Two out of three ain't bad♪ ♫

lumberjim 12-09-2014 01:30 PM

fucking right Bruce.

dont watch the news
dont follow politics
keep yourself inside yourself

TV portrays all of these Snippit of Life people in their perfect lives...or even if they're not perfect, their misery is somehow glamorous. It aint like that. Heroes are people very far away having a very hard time of things.

don't think so fucking much. your brain is a tool. it is not you. put it aside when you dont need it. you dont carry a hammer around all day.

Gravdigr 12-09-2014 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 915971)
dont watch the news
dont follow politics
keep yourself inside yourself

If one would do this for a month, one would be taken aback at how much one is influenced by these things.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 915971)
you dont carry a hammer around all day.

But, if you did, you would be astounded at how many uses you could find for that hammer. There are all kinds of things/people that need, need to be struck with that hammer. Some repeatedly.

Well, I wouldn't be astounded, but, most people would be.

Aliantha 12-10-2014 04:40 AM

anon...I am with you on lots of those points. Not all though, thankfully.

I care that you feel that way though, and so do many others here. You are not alone. We love you. xxx

Griff 12-10-2014 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 915815)

surrender to the reality. do not resist. accept it or change it. YOUR perception of a SITUATION as a PROBLEM is what is causing your suffering. resistance to reality is the source of suffering. get some buddha up in your brain

Well said Jim, this will be a lot messier. I figured out that a lot of petty annoyances were coming from my job. I had been accepting them but finally decided to go another direction which if I'm successful will be better for me and mine, along with the kids and families I'm serving. Win win win. Sometimes you have to take a chance to improve your situation. I have to be very careful not to put words in other peoples minds, it's a terrible habit which messes with my ability to deal rationally with problems.

Clodfobble 12-10-2014 08:58 AM

Sometimes I think Jim is the new Buddha, cleverly disguised as a car guy who likes the Simpsons in order to remain humble.

Griff 12-10-2014 09:05 AM

Dude has a clarity of thought and prose.

lumberjim 12-10-2014 11:17 AM

and the belly

BigV 12-10-2014 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 915924)
What? You're surprised?

In the 1950's small town on the 4th of July, people were honestly looking forward to the parade. Not much of a parade in a town of 2000, but you knew just about everyone there, and most of the people in it. They were all going to one cookout or another after, then a lot would come back for kids game competitions, or Men's softball tournament.

Wow, Dick Hatch got a new '58 Chevy convertible, triple black. There's talk of straightening the road down by the bend-o-rocks. There's a street light by the Town House now. Nobody thought much about space, the ocean, Africa, Asia, or much else except those damn commies and their A-bombs.

There's much to be said for fat, dumb, and happy.

I believe a primary reason the country has gone to hell is information overload. Too many things to worry about and media working hard at keeping you worried. People are fed up, and know, or at least strongly suspect, no matter how much money they make, no matter how many toys/trophies they acquire, life will still be it's same shitty self.

That's why you have to examine your burdens carefully, to make sure they're worth your worry, or you're beating yourself up unnecessarily.

There absolutely is more information available than I have the ability to process. It's not just easy to be overloaded, it's hard work to keep from getting overloaded.

xoB's last sentence is the key.

There's definitely information out there that I would benefit from knowing about, or from knowing more about. There's far, far more information out there that is worthless to me. It might just be plain content-free noise, or might be valid and important, but I'm unable to do anything about it *besides* worry, or some other combination the net result of which is my inability to do anything about it. Those things DO NOT justify a portion of my limited mental and emotional energy to "worry" about them.

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 915971)
fucking right Bruce.

dont watch the news
dont follow politics
keep yourself inside yourself

He is right, but he's not saying those things. Unless a hermit's life is the goal, news, politics, and sharing each others' lives is are all necessary good things. The key is a critical examination of what's being presented. "Consider the source" my Dad often said to me. I've benefited from the application of that wisdom countless times. Who's saying it? Why would they say that? Is it valid? Decide for yourself if it's something that counts for you? Uncertain? Check with someone or someones that you trust. Forsaking all outside influences and accepting all outside influences are both guaranteed to produce misery. A healthy life requires a balance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 915971)
TV portrays all of these Snippit of Life people in their perfect lives...or even if they're not perfect, their misery is somehow glamorous. It aint like that. Heroes are people very far away having a very hard time of things.

Yeah, I agree with this too. TV very rarely gets close to reality, and using such portrayals as a comparative measure for one's own life is probably unfair and doomed from the start, unless you have a TV production crew and marketing department to support you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 915971)
don't think so fucking much. your brain is a tool. it is not you. put it aside when you dont need it. you dont carry a hammer around all day.

I don't agree with this sentiment though. I think all the time, but much of that thought results in discarding thoughts that don't apply. I'm then free to think about what I'm enjoying without useless or destructive distractions.

xoxoxoBruce 12-10-2014 12:30 PM

Quote:

I think all the time, but much of that thought results in discarding thoughts that don't apply. I'm then free to think about what I'm enjoying without useless or destructive distractions.
And it's the best way to travel. :haha:

footfootfoot 12-10-2014 12:45 PM

yeppers. to all of you.


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