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Lamplighter 01-22-2015 06:08 PM
Keystone Cops - government on the move
 
Today has been a leisurely day for me. I started out with yesterday's NY Times article
on the CIA vs. Senate Committee Report of what new information was gained by torture.
I followed up a bit on one case:

Thwarting of Dirty Bomb and Capture of José Padilla
Quote:
The Case
José Padilla, who was accused of plotting a radiological dirty bomb attack inside the United States,
was one of the first American citizens designated an “enemy combatant.”
The Bush administration credited the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah
with uncovering the plot and leading investigators to Mr. Padilla.
His arrest has been held up for years as proof that waterboarding and other tactics worked.

Committee’s Conclusion
But Abu Zubaydah's information on Mr. Padilla was sketchy, and he provided it well before he was waterboarded.
Mr. Padilla, in fact, was arrested in May 2002, three months before the C.I.A. interrogation program began.

For all the publicity the Bush administration gave Mr. Padilla,
the committee revealed that the government never took his dirty bomb plot seriously.

It was based on a satirical Internet article titled “How to Make an H-Bomb,”
and the plot involved swinging a bucket full of uranium over one's head for 45 minutes.
One internal C.I.A. email declared that such a plot would most likely kill Mr. Padilla
but “would definitely not result in a nuclear explosive device.”
Another called Mr. Padilla “a petty criminal” and described the dirty bomb plot as “lore.”
Now, if you want to see what has happened to this poor bastard,
here is the link to the Wikipedia history, and to save time you can scroll down to the Timeline from 2002 - 2012.
But also be aware that after being sentenced in 2008 to 17 yrs in prison, ,
a federal judge in 2014 re-sentenced Padilla to 21 years.

Now if you don’t want to believe such a Keystone Cops story,
here is the link to a 4,432 word "How to Make a Hydrogen Bomb".
I 've quoted only the pertinent paragraph about 1/3rd the way down…

Rense.com
How To Build An H-Bomb
<snip>
...First transform the gas into a liquid by subjecting it to pressure. You can use a bicycle pump for this.
Then make a simple home centrifuge.
Fill a standard-size bucket one-quarter full of liquid uranium hexafluoride.
Attach a six-foot rope to the bucket handle.
Now swing the rope (and attached bucket) around your head as fast as possible.
Keep this up for about 45 minutes.
Slow down gradually, and very gently put the bucket on the floor.

The U-235, which is lighter, will have risen to the top, where it can be skimmed off like cream.
Repeat this step until you have the required 10 pounds of uranium.

(Safety note: Don't put all your enriched uranium hexafluoride in one bucket.
Use at least two or threebuckets and keep them in separate corners of the room.
This will prevent the premature build-up of a critical mass.)<snip>

Lamplighter 02-24-2015 10:52 PM
We were out of town for the day, so let me get today's events straight....
  • The environmental studies of the Keystone Pipeline project are not yet complete.
  • Most of the environmental studies that were started or proposed have been shut down or discontinued.
  • There is no route yet approved for the Keystone Pipeline thru any U.S. state.
  • Nebraska and South Dakota both have lawsuits against TransCanada to stop development of the pipeline
  • Once the pipeline were completed, there would only be about 50 new, permanent jobs.
  • Obama threaten to veto any bill requiring the Keystone Project to proceed
  • The Keystone Pipeline is of such huge and monumental importance to the G.O.P.
    they passed a bill in both the House and Senate requiring the Keystone Project to proceed
    that was tied to the annual budget bill for the entire Dept of Homeland Security.

And what happened ? Benghazi ? Obamacare ? No !
Obama just vetoed the bill, as he said he would.

Well, duh. What now ?

These "legislators" are either bat-shit crazy or so damned r-----st, they would rather provoke
the GOP-caused another government-shutdown than to see Obama win another legislative battle.

.

Lamplighter 02-25-2015 10:15 AM
Now, the GOP has even ticked off the Sioux...
Quartz - 2/25/15

Not on my rez
Quote:
“As a woman, I’m a waterkeeper. That’s part of my culture,” Tara Houska explained.

...In a press release issued in response to the [2/24/15] vote,
Rosebud Sioux tribal president Cyril Scott said,
“Authorizing Keystone XL is an act of war against our people.”
It was a statement intended to stoke passions, and perhaps rightfully so,...

The Rosebud Sioux, also known as the Sicangu Lakota,
reside on a reservation that includes all of Todd County,
South Dakota, and additional lands in the four adjacent.…

Only in 1934 were the Rosebud Sioux officially recognized as a self-governing nation
—see the Indian Reorganization Act—and thus formally allotted ownership of land that,
prior to the arrival of European colonists, had been their’s for centuries….

Keystone XL brought this hard-won spirit of sovereignty under threat.

The plan to expand an existing oil pipeline system, linking oil-rich tar sands
in the Canadian province of Alberta with refineries and distributors across the U.S.,
would essentially bisect South Dakota, cutting straight through Rosebud Sioux tribal land.

A longtime topic of concern for environmentalists, the Keystone XL pipeline raised hackles,
being yet another instance in which the American government attempted to
circumvent Native sovereignty in the pursuit of economic gain...
Of course, some those bald-headed white men in D.C. may not worry about their scalps.
But others should.

ETA: Yes, I realize that last remark is racist.

xoxoxoBruce 02-25-2015 01:26 PM
Quote:
Only in 1934 were the Rosebud Sioux officially recognized as a self-governing nation —see the Indian Reorganization Act—and thus formally allotted ownership of land that, prior to the arrival of European colonists, had been their’s for centuries….
Good for them, they should stand up for their rights, with every tool available to them... including righteous indignation.





However, a point of order. "Been theirs for centuries" is misleading to contemporary readers who likely envision a group of first graders having their lunch taken away by high school bullies. The Sioux by tradition didn't feel they owned the land and there was no legal system issuing deeds and protection. They occupied that land only because they were strong enough to take and hold it. Had there been a neighboring tribe who were strong enough to take and hold it, the Sioux would have been gone. The "colonists" (I think a strange term for the interlopers of the time, but I'll go with it because it contains colon and the Sioux did get it up the ass) took possession because they were strong enough to take and hold it.

Ironically, the "colonists" also established rule of law and deeds to keep a stronger tribe from taking away their land, after the compassionate, benevolent, colonist successors, couldn't think of a better use for it in 1934. But the Sioux must face the reality that you and I do, which is we only have a deed and protection of the law, until someone with more money and suck wants it.

If you have a little time you could go to the Smithsonian's online collection of Lakota Sioux Winter Counts. The tribes had a tradition of oral history which would naturally fall to the elderly to keep and teach to younger people... between yelling at the whippersnappers to get away from their Teepee, and trying to find their glasses. But since the cavemen, humans have known memory is a fickle beast, so the tribe would keep a hide or piece of cloth where once a year they would record the most important thing that happened during the year. This document was a cheat sheet of sorts. used as kind of a calendar to keep memories of events in their proper year. They used events like Meteor Showers to jibe the winter counts of different tribes.

Let's see now, I stole that young maiden after the year, One Cheyenne and twenty Crows were killed by Dakotas at Bear Butte(1830-31), but before the year, An Uncpapa Dakota Medicine man was killed by Rees(Indians). (1834-35).

Lamplighter 02-25-2015 04:24 PM
xoB, that's a good find. I've seen quite a few tribes and nations using
the internet to document their existence and history.

Of course we ("whites") tend to think of their cultures in terms of
battles and killings and reservations and stereotypes therein.
But the tribes are changing too, and are using "our" legal
and belief systems as part of their modern day weaponry.

One thing I find really of interest is that Native Americans have taken
one of our basic legal foundations - Freedom of Region -
using it as a formidable tool in their arsenal.

As just one example, here in the Pacific Northwest,
when the tribes are in negotiation/fight over salmon,
they couch their rights in terms of "religious practices",
not in terms of historic ownership.

I think a similar and ironic situation is the gambling casinos that are taking
large sums of $ from whites, and using the $ to provide health care for their people.

In sort of a "turn your enemy's strength into their weakness", or visa versus,
legal status and rights and courts-of-law and land grants
have replaced the bows/arrows and guns/bullets.

And in the case of the Keystone Pipeline, a Sioux challenge in
federal and state courts could be extensive and very effective.
.

Lamplighter 02-26-2015 08:25 PM
UT might be pleased to learn that the GOP leaders read our postings.

Today, Speaker Boehner must have been referring to my post above,
when he said to the Press: "People think we are crazy."

So for now, the GOP battle cry is not "Obamacare !" or "Benghazi !" or "Keystone !".
For the next 3 weeks, the GOP whoop will be: " IMMIGRATION ! "

Instead of shutting down the Dept of Homeland Security over the Keystone Pipeline,
the GOP will now set about shutting down the D.H.S. over
the President's Executive Order for prioritizing "Immigration".

Now to be straight... The President's Executive Order has already been stopped by that Texas judge,
so there is no Executive Order for the GOP to stomp into the muck. But damn the torpedoes,
they are going to fight it anyway.

In other words, the GOP has now declared they would rather fight than win.
.

xoxoxoBruce 02-27-2015 12:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 922531)
xoB, that's a good find. I've seen quite a few tribes and nations using
the internet to document their existence and history.
Ah, so they've learned to use revisionist history, I didn't realize they were republicans. http://cellar.org/2015/shades.gif

Lamplighter 02-27-2015 03:31 PM
:lol2:Back to the Keystone Cops...

This article is about GOP House Speaker Boehner vs. his fellow House Republicans.

LA Times - Lisa Mascaro - 2/27/15
Boehner plan for stop-gap bill funding Homeland Security runs into trouble in House
Quote:
House Speaker John A. Boehner's plan to approve a three-week stopgap bill
to keep the Department of Homeland Security fully operating ran into trouble
among his fellow Republicans on Friday, prolonging a standoff as a midnight deadline loomed.

House leaders had hoped to hold a vote on the bill early Friday afternoon,
but postponed it amid fears that they lacked votes for passage.

Earlier in the day, the Senate overwhelmingly approved funds for the department,
dropping an effort by Republican conservatives to use its budget as leverage
to try to force changes in President Obama's immigration policies <snip>

Quote:
“I regret that we’re in this spot,” said Rep. Steve Womack (R-Ark.),
a former mayor, who was ready to approve the spending bill.
”It upsets me that we are, in many respects, handing the other side absolutely what they want
-- which is to divide our conference, and try to show we can’t govern.
It’s making a mockery of our system and doesn’t do our majority any favors."
I don't quite believe it's a matter of the "other side" trying to show they can’t govern.
The GOP is doing so all by themselves.

And one more thing... Today, one of the choices for the GOP Presidential candidacy
made a remarkably clairvoyant statement to his fellow Republicans...

Jeb Bush said: "I hope you find me your second best choice." :right:

xoxoxoBruce 02-27-2015 04:10 PM
But if I fall on my face, it has to be because my nemesis tripped me, even if he was out of town, and I have three toadies employees who will swear to it. :angel:

Lamplighter 02-28-2015 01:01 PM
The Senate passed a one week "Patch" on the budget bill and went home.
Speaker Boehner got the House to do the same.

So in a week, we'll all be singing...

Lamplighter 03-01-2015 11:06 AM
Shutdown of Homeland Security averted as Pelosi comes to rescue
The Hill - Rebecca Shabad - 02/27/15

Quote:
A partial government shutdown was narrowly avoided late Friday evening as
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) made a surprise move to back
legislation funding the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for one week.

Pelosi’s support helped Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio - :redface:) move
the one-week bill through the House in a 357-60 vote just after 10 p.m.,...
President Obama signed the bill just before midnight.
<snip>
Pelosi came to the rescue late Friday evening, sending a letter to Democrats urging them to vote for
a one-week continuing resolution (CR) of Homeland Security funding without any immigration riders.

Quote:
“Thank you for your cooperation on the vote earlier today.
Our unity was a strong statement that the Department of Homeland Security must be fully funded,”
Pelosi wrote in the letter to Democrats. “We are asking you once again to help advance passage
of the Senate passed, long-term funding of DHS by voting in favor of a 7-day patch
that will be on suspension in the House tonight.”
<snip>
If Democrats stay united against the conference committee, Republicans will again be at a stalemate,
lacking the 60 votes that would be needed to break the filibuster.

That could leave the “clean” funding bill as the only way out.

So, it's ironic that even when she is not in power as Speaker, Nancy Pelosi
has more clout than the GOP's elected leader of the House, John Boehner.

xoxoxoBruce 03-01-2015 04:47 PM
Not as speaker, but still in power.

Lamplighter 03-03-2015 07:39 AM
NY Times reported this about the clown car today...

Quote:
...
But many Republican senators are getting frustrated with their House colleagues,
urging them to fund the department and fight Mr. Obama’s immigration policies at a different time.

“I don’t understand us, either,” said Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina.
“I think we’re dumb as a rock to do what we’re doing.”
...
But the Times is just reporting what we already knew.

Lamplighter 03-03-2015 11:37 AM
It looks as though this little tiff is over... finally

John Boehner Blinks, Will Allow For Clean Funding Of Department Of Homeland Security
Huffington Post - Elise Foley - 3/3/15
Quote:
WASHINGTON -- The House will finally vote on a bill to fund the Department of Homeland Security
without immigration measures, Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) told his conference at a meeting on Tuesday.
…
The speaker told members there were only three ways forward for the DHS fight at this point,
according to the source in the room. They could vote on the clean bill, which would be likely to pass
given the near-unanimous support of Democrats. They could do another short-term bill,
but Boehner said that might be unlikely to pass, given the failure of a three-week funding bill last week.
The final option, allowing DHS to shut down, was untenable, he said.

… House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) released a statement Tuesday morning urging
Boehner to hold a vote on the clean bill as soon as possible, and reiterating that Democrats will support it.

"The Senate has voted in a bipartisan way and House Democrats have made it clear
we support full, long-term funding," she said. "We shouldn't wait another day
to remove all doubt to our enemies, to American families and to the affected workers
that we will fully fund the Department of Homeland Security."

xoxoxoBruce 03-03-2015 12:59 PM
Quote:
But many Republican senators are getting frustrated with their House colleagues, urging them to fund the department and fight Mr. Obama’s immigration policies at a different time.

“I don’t understand us, either,” said Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina. “I think we’re dumb as a rock to do what we’re doing.”
Frustrated, but know full well if they buck the party, the money will buy a more conservative replacement in the next election. It's Howdy Doody time, please ignore the strings.

Lamplighter 03-04-2015 11:33 PM
As expected... but de GOP jes caint hep demselvs.

Override of Obama’s Keystone Veto Fails in Senate
Administration retains ultimate decision on contentious cross-border project
Wall St Journal - Amy Harder - March 4, 2015

Quote:
An effort by Senate Republicans to override President Barack Obama ’s veto
of a bill approving the Keystone XL pipeline failed Wednesday,
the latest twist in a lengthy saga over the contentious project.

The 62-37 vote fell short of the required 67 yes votes needed to override Mr. Obama’s veto
of a bill that would have authorized a Canadian company to construct a 1,179-mile pipeline.

Democrats opposed to the project took to the floor before the vote to criticize
the project for its environmental risks. They also said the company behind it, TransCanada Corp. ,
faces permitting challenges in states the pipeline would traverse, which cast doubt on when
—or even if—the pipeline will be built.
<snip>
“As we vote, the pipeline’s route through Nebraska is still in doubt,” said Sen. Maria Cantwell (D., Wash.),
who opposes the project and voted against overriding Mr. Obama’s veto.
“Even if the bill becomes law, the Keystone XL pipeline will not get built anytime soon.”

Griff 03-05-2015 06:14 AM
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I was trying to remember the last time our government looked forward thinking. It's been a while, maybe 1990?

Lamplighter 03-06-2015 08:38 PM
Since Senator Menendes is a Democratic from New Jersey, this situation
presents a serious example in the question of "nature versus nurture".

I'm fairly certain that given that he, a Democrat, and Chris Christie, a Republican,
are both from NJ, it must be that nurture is the dominant operating force. :rolleyes:

Quote:
Sen. Bob Menendez Denies Wrongdoing as Feds Consider Corruption Charges
ABC News - ARLETTE SAENZ and AARON KATERSKY - Mar 6, 2015
Sen. Bob Menendez, D-New Jersey, is speaking out about the possibility
of facing corruption charges that may come from an investigation into whether he received gifts
from a Florida eye doctor in exchange for promoting the doctor’s business.

A federal official familiar with the case told ABC News a criminal charge is a “good possibility,”
but a decision may be weeks away. Grand juries in Miami, Florida and in Newark, New Jersey
have heard evidence against Menendez that centers on his relationship Dr. Salomon Melgen,
a close Menendez ally and Democratic donor.
…
Menendez said his close relationship with Dr. Melgen and his family dates back more than two decades.
The New Jersey senator declined to answer questions about the case due to the “ongoing inquiry.”

Lamplighter 05-01-2015 07:50 PM
Not the final, but the next step in the legal sequence...

With Bridge Case Charges, a Cloud Descends on Christie’s White House Hopes
NY Times = MICHAEL BARBARO - MAY 1, 2015

Quote:
The 37-page charging document recounts a ruthless act of political retribution:
to punish a small-town mayor for refusing to endorse Mr. Christie’s 2013 re-election,
the governor’s confidants unleashed a major traffic jam that gridlocked ordinary commuters,
emergency responders and children on the first day of school.

2 Indicted in George Washington Bridge Case; Ally of Christie Pleads Guilty MAY 1, 2015

Nowhere does the indictment say Mr. Christie, a Republican, knew of the scheme or was involved in it.

Now, the growing risk for Mr. Christie is that the very belligerence that electrified voters,
the press and the Republican Party, and catapulted him into a credible contender
for the White House, may wind up putting the presidency out of his reach.

Lamplighter 05-02-2015 11:23 AM
Details of the federal indictment of Gov. Chris Christie's "acquaintances" are nicely presented in this article:

U.S. Indictment Details Plotting in New Jersey Bridge Scandal
NY Times - KATE ZERNIKE - MAY 1, 2015
Quote:
Bill Baroni, Bridget Anne Kelly and David Wildstein waited for the first day of school.
They held off on telling people so their secret would not get out.
They steered cars to a cash lane, to make drivers sweat even more.
...
But an indictment released by federal prosecutors in New Jersey
on Friday fills out in more detail the specifics of how and why,
presenting the lengths three accused conspirators, aides and an ally of Gov. Chris Christie,
went to, and the delight they took, in concocting their scheme and the sham story to cover it up.

Two of the three, Mr. Baroni and Ms. Kelly, were indicted,
while the third, Mr. Wildstein, pleaded guilty.<snip>
The fed's timeline in this article seems pretty convincing.
So with trials and sentencing in the near future, it will be interesting to see
if deals are made and Christie joins this elite group.
Wildstein's attorney has already said publically that documents exist that involve Chris Christie, himself.

My political reaction is that Christie either knew, or should have known.

.

busterb 05-02-2015 07:52 PM
Hi-jack. Wonder who got rich in that cash for clunker scam? Sure didn't take around here.

Lamplighter 05-02-2015 09:18 PM
Who is Marilyn Jones Mosby ?

From Wikipedia:
Quote:
Mosby was raised in the Boston neighborhood of Dorchester, by her grandmother.
Her mother and father were both police officers;
her family traces its association with the police back over five generations.

She attended Dover-Sherborn High School, an hour away from her home.
She served in the Student Government Association and was co-editor of the school newspaper.

Her interest in practicing law was sparked by the murder of her 17-year-old cousin outside her home,
when he was mistakenly identified as a drug dealer and killed by another 17-year-old.

Mosby received a scholarship at Tuskegee University, Alabama,
where she studied and subsequently met her future husband Nick Mosby,
who presently serves on the Baltimore City Council.

Mosby earned her Juris Doctor degree from Boston College Law School.

Mosby served as Assistant State's Attorney for Baltimore City from 2005 to 2012.
She became a litigator for Liberty Mutual Insurance in 2012.

In 2013, she announced plans to run for State's Attorney for the city of Baltimore.
She ran against incumbent Gregg L. Bernstein in the Democratic primary.
In the Democratic primary, Mosby defeated Bernstein with 55 percent of the vote.
She faced no opposition in the general election.
I think she has all the credentials she needs to be a real powerhouse !

Lamplighter 05-02-2015 09:51 PM
Sorry, my post above went into the wrong thread.

Maybe the mods can move it to the "baltimore" thread.

Lamplighter 05-14-2015 04:51 PM
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Sorry to disappoint all you folks out there on the distant right.
But hooray for those of you who were waiting breathlessly for his advice.

John Bolton will not run for president in 2016
MSNBC - 5/14/15
Quote:
Bolton, who was recess-appointed to his ambassadorship by President George W. Bush
after failing to win confirmation in the Senate in 2005,
discussed the move with reporters shortly after the video went live.

According to Bolton, he will play an active outside role in the race through John Bolton PAC
and super PAC, which will focus on foreign policy, track the presidential campaign
and could run ads in Senate races. He said he has also been in conversation
with some of the 2016 presidential candidates and would offer his advice
throughout the campaign.
...
Yeah, sure. :lol2:

But here come the other GOP 'stache's to take it's place.

The spitten' images of Keystone cops

Lamplighter 06-04-2015 09:27 PM
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You knew it was coming....

Rick Perry announces presidential bid, joining crowded GOP field
Quote:
Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry made it official on Thursday,
joining the already-crowded field of candidates for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination.


Perry, whose infamous “Oops” moment during the last GOP primary derailed
what had been a promising start to his 2012 campaign, announced his latest bid
at a rally inside a hot airplane hanger north of Dallas.
Below is the % of GOP's that will vote for Rick.
But, more GOP's will either not vote for any of these, or not vote at all

Lamplighter 06-27-2015 08:06 AM
One could take the high road:
Quote:
The Roberts Supreme Court is on a roll.
Gay marriage, national health care and a surprising vote of support for the Fair Housing Act,
all in a couple of days.
Or one could take the low:
Quote:
Hug a bigot today, they’re having a bad week
But the GOP is tunneling into it’s own morass

Supremes Hit a High Note
NY Times - Gail Collins - June 26,2015
Quote:
“The Supreme Court just upheld Obamacare yet again,” said Jeb Bush in a fund-raising shout-out.
“This is the direct result of President Obama.
He deliberately forced Obamacare on the American people in a partisan and toxic way.”

Whoever actually wrote Bush’s email did a brilliant job since it,
a) manages to blame Barack Obama for a Supreme Court dominated by Republican appointees, and
b) does sort of sound like the way Jeb Bush talks.
...
Once again, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee led the field in howling,
demanding that the people “resist and reject judicial tyranny, not retreat.”
Once again we will contemplate the fact that Huckabee used to be known as the tenderhearted Republican.

Donald Trump blamed Jeb Bush for the court’s gay rights decision,
which is even more creative than Jeb Bush blaming Barack Obama for the one on health care.
...
“The only alternative left for the American people is to support an amendment
to the U.S. Constitution to reaffirm the ability of the states to continue to define marriage,”
said Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker.

...<snip>

Lamplighter 06-28-2015 12:22 PM
This man is planning to be the GOP nominee for President of the United States.

Bobby Jindal administration says Louisiana won't recognize gay marriage yet.
The Times Picayune - Julia O'Donoghue - June 26, 2015

Gov. Bobby Jindal's administration says gay marriage will currently not be offered or recognized in Louisiana,
but his staff acknowledged it's likely coming.
…
Local court clerks issue licenses in the other 63 parishes, but the Louisiana Clerks of Court Association
and Attorney General Buddy Caldwell both advised them Friday to wait 25 days
to begin issuing licenses to same-sex couples.

Mayor Mitch Landrieu criticized Jindal and Caldwell after couples were denied licenses in New Orleans.
"We are a nation of laws, and Louisiana is no exception.
The State has no legal authority to delay issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples even a moment longer,"
Landrieu said in a written statement.

—————————

Bobby Jindal: ‘Let’s just get rid of the court’
MSNBC - Adam Howard - 6/27/15

In the wake of Friday’s historic Supreme Court ruling on marriage equality,
Republicans did not hold back their rage
– but few politicians went as far as 2016 candidate Gov. Bobby Jindal.

The Louisiana Republican, who launched a longshot bid for the presidency last week,
suggested that the 5-4 ruling, which made same-sex marriage legal throughout the nation,
was cause for disbanding the entire Supreme Court.

Although several other 2016 GOP candidates came out in opposition to the decision,
with a few even suggesting the need for a Constitutional Amendment to overturn it,
they all stopped short of advocating for what amounts to an undemocratic insurrection.

xoxoxoBruce 06-28-2015 01:09 PM
Jindal was, is and always will be an asshole. The only reason he's running for the nomination is to increase his public speaking fee.
There's no way the money behind the party would let him be a contender. They just let him run to make the guys they want look less bad.

But to be fair, he's probably surrounded himself with yes men who are telling him half the country agrees with him, so I guess he's stupid too.
Next he'll want to punish those straight parents who produce gay babies. :rolleyes:

Lamplighter 07-27-2015 08:04 PM
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GOP Senator Ted Cruz can't help himself.


Attachment 52758

He's broken a taboo of the Senate, by calling the Senate Leader, Mitch McConnell, a LIAR !

And now his fellow GOP Senators are asking one another:
Where is Joseph Welch when you need him ?

Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last?
Have you left no sense of decency?

xoxoxoBruce 07-27-2015 08:14 PM
You mean the GOP Senators are just finding out what everybody else already knew?

Lamplighter 07-28-2015 10:38 PM
If you can't trust a GOP legislator, who can you trust ?
Quote:
Whereas the Speaker of the House of Representatives for the 114th Congress
has endeavored to consolidate power and centralize decision-making, bypassing the majority
of the 435 Members of Congress and the people they represent;

Whereas the Speaker has, through inaction, caused the power of Congress to atrophy,
thereby making Congress subservient to the Executive and Judicial branches,
diminishing the voice of the American People;

Whereas the Speaker uses the power of the office to punish Members who
vote according to their conscience instead of the will of the Speaker;

Whereas the Speaker has intentionally provided for voice votes on consequential and
controversial legislation to be taken without notice and with few Members present;

Whereas the Speaker uses the legislative calendar to create crises for the American People,
in order to compel Members to vote for legislation;

Whereas the Speaker does not comply with the spirit of the rules of the House of Representatives,
which provide that Members shall have three days to review legislation before voting;

Whereas the Speaker continues to direct the Rules Committee to limit meaningful amendments,
to limit debate on the House floor, and to subvert a straightforward legislative process; and

Whereas the House of Representatives, to function effectively in the service of all citizens of this country,
requires the service of a Speaker who will endeavor to follow an orderly and inclusive process
without imposing his or her will upon any Member thereof:

Now, therefore, be it Resolved,
That the office of Speaker of the House of Representatives is hereby declared to be vacant.

Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.)
Former Chairman of the Oversight and Government Reform subcommittee

tw 07-29-2015 07:54 PM
Why would anyone waste a minute of their life watching so many irrelevant people? Ignore them all. Only look in January 2016 to learn who even has any relevance on this planet.

Meanwhile another did something actually newsworthy today. A Cincinnati prosecutor, known to be very cop friendly, indicted a white cop for assassinating a black man. He was blunt - that cop should have never been a cop. Even the cop’s camera contradicted what the cop said occurred.

If a cop carrying a camera lies, what does that say about extremists who gain power by inflating reality?

Let political nature kill off the ignorant and naive. What will be left after January is then examined. Any discussion about people who cannot help lying is simply a waste of bandwidth and brain matter.

Griff 07-30-2015 05:49 AM
Are you saying drone the politicians?

Lamplighter 07-30-2015 10:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tw (Post 934899)
Why would anyone waste a minute of their life watching so many irrelevant people?
Ignore them all. Only look in January 2016 to learn who even has any relevance on this planet.
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Let political nature kill off the ignorant and naive. What will be left after January is then examined.
Any discussion about people who cannot help lying is simply a waste of bandwidth and brain matter.
But pls remember, tw, what our most eminent psychologist, Dr Phil, says:

"The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior"

So if you don't watch what they are doing now or have done in the past,
you have no grounds to bitch* when they get elected and continue their ways,
but with more power and less accountability.

For example, Texas has it's current Governor running for President,
who just happens to be under federal indictment for abuse of power.

Ya gotta continue to pay attention to the details...

* You can still bitch... SCOTUS says so.

tw 07-31-2015 09:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 934928)
Ya gotta continue to pay attention to the details...
I will. After January of next year, I will look back at everything Donald Trump said. Then ask why so many wacko extremists love this guy.

Learn from history. We need not watch these hyperbolic actors now. They are only appealing to adults who are still children (and therefore emotional). We can learn everything we need to know about them all by viewing what they said and what therefore results ... 8 months later. What will be left are far fewer extremists and more informed and educated moderates.

xoxoxoBruce 07-31-2015 10:08 AM
When you, rage, rage against the clown of the right, you completely miss the entertainment value which it better than most TV.

Lamplighter 08-20-2015 02:58 PM
Jeb Bush: ‘Anchor babies’ isn’t offensive
Washington Post - Ed O'Keefe - 8/20/15

Quote:
KEENE, N.H. — A feistier, combative Jeb Bush said Thursday
that he doesn't believe the term "anchor babies" is offensive and
blamed Democrats for perpetuating the idea that it's a loaded term.
...
Bush's defense of the term is a sharp departure from how he usually discusses
immigration reform and the broader national debate on the subject.

As a longtime advocate for comprehensive changes to the immigration system,
he speaks out frequently about the need for Republicans
to strike a respectful tone when discussing the issue.
Now this is a brilliant and truly sneaky way for Jeb to launch a drone attack on The Donald.
First Jeb tries to shift the blame the use of the words onto the Democrats.
But the whole concept is GOP-speak for poisoning discussion about immigration.

But even sneakier is the implied threat to Trump, who might be considered to be one, himself. :mock:

xoxoxoBruce 08-20-2015 06:17 PM
A republican candidate will pop up with the same positions as trump has had favorable public response to, but without being obnoxious and insulting. Then the Donald will fade.

Happy Monkey 08-20-2015 08:20 PM
What if "obnoxious and insulting" are the positions that the public has favorable response to?

xoxoxoBruce 08-20-2015 11:45 PM
Although some people openly admit supporting him, at least at this point, because he's giving the finger to politically correct and the system, I don't think there's enough of them to make him a contender.


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