San Bernadino
 

As many as three gunmen believed to be wearing military-style gear opened fire Wednesday at a Southern California social services center "as if they were on a mission," killing at least 14 people and seriously wounding more than a dozen others, authorities said.

Hours later, police hunting for the attackers riddled a black SUV with gunfire several miles away, and one person lay motionless in the street — dead or dying — with a gun nearby. Officers appeared to remove a second person from the vehicle.

No Lamplighter so somebody should put this up...

Would a moderator please move these posts to The Gender Equality Checkpoint thread.

gunpersons... noted

Looks like the fashion police got 'em.

I wonder how many will try using this incident to deprive women of their right to choose their own clothing.

Why make any assumptions? We don't know HOW they IDENTIFIED! Maybe they weren't what they appeared!

OMG, do you think they identified as Syrians?

Once again, this did not happen in a ghetto.

(RIP LL)

All the TV stations, all day long, droning on and on and on. All the facts they actually gave me could be covered in a 5 minute segment when they actually knew what the fuck was happening. They get some "spokesman" for some organization on the phone or a live feed, ask them 50 questions to which the answer is, "I don't have that information". The only information the "spokesman has, is shit everyone already knows.

They do the same thing here for an overturned truck on I-95, from the time their chopper gets there until the next scheduled news broadcast. So from 10 AM till noon the chopper circles the accident with the talking heads saying what they knew before the chopper got there and speculating for two hours about nothing but filler.

I think it's horrific that this just keeps happening. I think it's even worse that people seem to care less and less that it does. No one is even shocked anymore. It's like people just expect it to happen.

Will the desensitization of these shootings result in less shootings?

No, not expect it, it's everyone expects the dialog in the aftermath to be second verse, same as the first. The entire noise will be about guns and everyone will just pick up their script, repeat their part to the boredom of the rest of the country. Nothing happens in this country that's not political anymore.

Little Billy is learning to ride his bike. Dad takes the training wheels off and Billy skins his knee, just like it has happened for a couple hundred years.
Now suddenly Mother's Against Skinned Knees(MASK) gets air time on the news blaming Dad for taking the training wheels off to soon.
Then The Weavers For Stronger Cloth(TWFSC) blame the cheap imported fabric for failing to protect Billy's knee.

And it goes on and on until we just don't want to be from this planet anymore.

Not as long as people continue to make fashion statements with them: first it was hoodies, now it's "assault-style clothing", next time it might be Sunday-go-to-meeting (your maker) clothes. Clothes make the killer you know.

I think so.

These shooters and also the terrorists are looking for a reaction. They are super-trolls.

Ignore them and they will go away eventually. Unfortunately, they will try to escalate to get attention if we shrug when they do this.

To ignore them would require the cooperation of the media, but the media is all about not ignoring them.

Assuming as long as the media covers it, public interest stoked.
If public interest wanes, and the media switches to cat videos, will it cause public interest to shrink further, or grow, fed by the internet conspiracists?

Would losing media coverage separate the terrorists from the attention whores? Will one, or both, escalate to more elaborate productions like OK City or 9-11?

Does driving a vehicle randomly spreading clouds of anthrax produce the same woody, as going through a crowd playing the sorting hat, live, die, die, live, die?

Is the future unwritten?

And can we take sandwiches?


Sorry - way flippant for this thread. I was really sad to read about this. I had some american friends(of the family, via J's dad) who lived in San Bernadino in the 80s and early 90s. J and his Dad visited there several times, growing up, and when they were in the Uk weall hooked up - so despite never having been there myself, it's a place I feel warm about.

We've got, what? 7 Billion people on this planet?

On every single day, since the beginning of time, if you look hard enough, you are going to be able to find something horrific going on somewhere. People being devastated. Every single day. Today, the media broadcasts it without you having to look for it.

But if you look around your own life, your own town, everything is pretty damn good. I mean, sure. We all have health issues sooner or later, or loved ones die or get sick. But on the balance, I'd rather live this life and enjoy it, even with some suffering thrown in now and then, than always worrying about that day's horrific thing happening somewhere else. Especially when there's not a damn thing I can do about it.

I wish I could find the well-referenced article about how we (worldwide) genuinely live in the most peaceful of times in the whole history of the planet. The frequency with which human beings have always slaughtered each other is really quite astounding. Of course it doesn't mean that this isn't a tragedy or that we should stop trying to improve, but it can help at least a little to know that we are still on the right path, if moving slowly on it. Like, we got out of the handbasket, at least.

I read a piece last night claiming as unemployment goes up, violent crime goes down.

Rather counter intuitive to me but maybe criminals prefer the ghetto where there's less chance of cops interrupting their enterprise, and when unemployment is up less people have two cents to steal? I don't know.

I think maybe a lot of violent crime is jealousy-driven. If everyone has a job except you, there's no escaping the mental voice pointing out that it must be your fault you don't have a job. That cognitive dissonance hurts, makes you angry, makes you want to hurt your neighbor and take the stuff that you feel like should have been rightfully yours. But if all your neighbors are struggling too, you have to look farther away for a target of jealousy. And it's a lot harder to violently rob the lords and ladies in the manor on the hill.

Hmm, I wonder what the effect of unemployment is on infidelity? Got the time but no money to woo somebody's spouse, That might lower the violent part of crime. :confused:

With more unemployment, then more entrepreneurs start their own business. With a resulting increase in whores, then a need to rape decreases. Crime violate crimes decrease.

Is that not obvious?

Plus, if you have a job, you can sneak off from the office for a nooner BJ with your wife none the wiser. If you're home on the couch all day unable to get a job, you're going to have to explain yourself every time you want to leave the house.

The plot thickens ...

No Lamplighter so somebody should cherry-pick this...

Yes, I know. I have cherry picked items for this post. ~ Lamplighter

Shouldn't have to say it all again.
The universe is hostile. so Impersonal. devour to survive.
So it is. So it's always been.

We all feed on tragedy
It's like blood to a vampire

Vicariously I, live while the whole world dies
Much better you than I

Under the heading "Twisting the Narrative to Suit Me" my bacefook feed this am blames the trend of moving people with disabilities from State Hospitals to Community based housing for mass shootings.

If you think Americans are blasé over another shooting...

What a tragedy that the Muslim son of Muslim Immigrants and his Muslim Immigrant wife ruined the reputations of Muslims, Immigrants, the US Immigration screening process and all those who support such immigration, by killing a bunch of people in San Bernardino when all they had to do was pop some heavy duty bubblewrap to terrorize people.

We shall have to make it law that all immigrants be issued heavy duty bubblewrap.

Egyptians encased in bubble paper? A 21st Century mummy? I thought importing mummies was illegal.

Base security gets a call somebody heard three pops. They have to respond, even if it's just a paranoid airman, as a matter of fact they probably hope that's the case. But a lot of people are on edge. Not me, I'm as low value target as they come. :haha:

Now, being covered in heavy duty bubblewrap will constitute wearing assault-style clothing.

Now the link offers this
" A heavily armed man and woman dressed for battle opened fire on a holiday banquet for his co-workers Wednesday, killing 14 people and seriously wounding more than a dozen others in a precision assault, authorities said. Hours later, they died in a shootout with police.

Authorities were trying to determine a motive, which could include workplace violence or terrorism."

This is the problem with online news - they get to change what was written whenever they want. Post the wrong info - Poof never happened.

She's gonna be ISIS I guess. They'll need to revamp their green card options for fiances and partners etc...

Not online news, all media, pass on what they have been told, before they have the whole story. Even newspapers with their time delay advantage to get it right, fuck up.

A "developing story" means they'll tell you what they heard, and it may or may not be true, but they hope you'll to watch their dog & pony show while they figure it out.

Thank you. My buddy Bruce