Shit is Fucked Up
 

So I had to turn off the news today as Hillary v Trump continues to look likely. Two broken parties taking it out on the rest of us. Thankfully this was what popped out of my thumb drive.

That's fucked up

I used to really like The Offspring, but, the screaming just gets to me now.

But, yes, shit is fucked up.

I still have much love for them in my heart.

fucking outSTANDing!

Shit *is* fucked up, and then:

Oh, hell yeah!

:devil:

I know this is a thread about a different style of politics.
But the title says it all.

Why in the name of all shitty fucked-uppiness attack Belgium.

Oh. Because they can.
It's like how the IRA (yeah, you know, my hobby horse) went for the weakest targets.

Despite the jokes about the French being cheese-mongering surrender-monkeys, they fought hard for their country. They were hit by the murdering arseholes this time round because France is a non secular country, and if you don't follow the laws of the Koran that match your own personal view, everyone except you and your male friends deserve to die (NOTE this is my view on ISIS, not Islam).

But "Plucky little Belgium" gets more approbation.
That's fine by me. They fought like fury.
And now. And now. 26 dead so far.
I wish I were less of a bleeding heart liberal sometimes. So I could hate the haters and want them publicly executed.

Shit is fucked up.

This week in Australia, some idiot took a Muslim woman's headscarf off and then apparently ridiculed her for the rest of the bus trip. He was later arrested then released on bail. So a Muslim cleric then says we should be concerned that the Muslim community might take things into their own hands. I'm sorry, but what more can he want? I'm a tolerant person, but I don't believe those sort of overt threats will do anything to help anyone.

I don't see that as an overt threat. I also see it as a warning that wacko Muslims may become emotional (like a child) and then become violent.

His words have multiple meanings depending on personal biases or perspective. But we do know why people punch out others in a Trump rally, why bombers must do killing because their god is a false idol so pathetic as to be incapable of killing, why Nazi (and others) knew torture and genocide is good, and why so many even knew Saddam was a threat to America. In every case, intelligent thinking (that defines an adult) was replaced by emotions (that define childish rationalizations).

Obviously an idiot who was later arrested was an adult acting like a child. But what was the cleric saying? Did he justify violence like a child or warn that even many Muslims adults are only children?

Why do you hate children so much? Was your childhood so bad? We are all children underneath the layers of repression and adult inhibitions.

I'm not defending the unconscious behavior described on either side, for the record... Simply wondering why you have such a fixation on labeling people as childish.... And anyways in a negative way. Was your childhood particularly difficult?

tw, what he was saying is that in his opinion, the way the Australian courts are dealing with this man is not good enough and that Muslims who object to it may decide to do something about it themselves. Like vigilantes.

The idiot person was arrested, charged and then released on bail pending his day in court.

Someone mouthing off before there's even an outcome is just trying to create a problem where there is none.

I've been very supportive of the Muslim people in our society here. For the most part they are very nice people, but there are dickheads among them, just as there are among all other faiths.

There has to be a way people who incite violence among their followers can be censured. I don't think I'll ask my US mates for advice there. You guys have your own problems with this issue.

I absolutely believe there is room for everyone here. I absolutely cannot understand why others don't see it.

Noooo, they must be culled so that only cake buyers remain, and non-cake buyers deported. :yesnod:

That sounds good too.

You have used your own emotion to assume something that does not exist. The sentences are about others. "I" am irrelevant to what is in every paragraph.

Hate is an emotion found in those adults who are still children. Please read what is posted; not what you feel.

A most powerful influence among men is called peer pressure.

This is what Jim is talking about t-dub. You seem to have a very negative perception of children. The worst and most consistent insult you level at adults is that they are like children.

Personally, I think if more adults acted like children the world might be a better place.

I posted an interrogative. I made an observation to support the reason for the question. I offered no emotional position. I'm just trying to understand you.

Here ya go... wiki

now *that* shit is fucked up.

That was silly speculation about me; completely irrelevant to this topic.

Discussion is about adults so emotional as to still be children. "I" have no relevance here. Your reasoning fails to separate who I am from a topic about how some adults think.

This discussion is difficult for those cannot / do not separate their emotional biases from from logical conclusions. For example, one who chooses to smoke cigarettes was not thinking logically; was not using a part of the brain that only adults have. No one logically decides to smoke cigarettes. How many did so anyway? Still do not grasp theirs was a classic emotional decision.

Why did he swat a headscarf off that women's head? Why did he continue with insults that only a child would express? Was it a decision based upon adult thinking? Of course not. It was a classic example of an adult being emotional - as if that scarf somehow 'dissed' him. Even being 'dissed' is associated with adults who are still children.

DanaC - I insulted no one. Why assume emotion in a statement of facts? Did you read some sort of secret or implied message in that post?

Children are emotional because (if you need an emotional reason) that is great. Whether children are emotional is neither good nor bad. It just is.

Contrasted were adults who are adults verses adults who still think like children. That says nothing about children. That does not direct insult at anyone - obviously. No adult who acts like a child was insulted because only the nature of his behavior was defined. Even defined was a brain section that defines that distinction - pre-frontal cortex.

Headscarf on a women's head is irrelevant to any adult who is thinking like an adult. But somehow, he takes 'insult' (or some other emotion) from that scarf. Was he thinking logically like an adult? Of course not. His emotions were imposed upon that headscarf and woman. That is adult acting like a child - emotionally. His actions were acceptable only for a child (maybe); completely unacceptable for adults. His verbal insults further affirm that conclusion.

A logical summary of his emotional tirade is not based in any emotion. Why assume an adult who acts like a child somehow demeans children? He was a classic example of a adult who still thinks like a child.

Summarized only with facts, without any emotions, and without defiling anyone was who he (that type of person) is. At least one somehow must impose his emotions on that conclusion.

:lol2:

...ok.

So.... What are you trying to say exactly? They were being childish? The people in this confrontation. Because by that logic, this would apply to every topic you could imagine on this forum.

Person A is being childish.

That's one sentence that conveys what you claim to be your objective opinion. It takes a lot less time to write than your post..... And less to read.

It's the same position you take with every conflict I can recall with you being involved in the discussion.

So I ask again. What is it that drives you to repeatedly hammer that particular nail? Why is being childish and emotional so unacceptable to you?

I agree that if the man in the story had been behaving logically with no emotion, he would not have accosted that woman. That's a given. The mildly interesting aspect to the story is .. Why. Why was he acting that way? Don't say because he was being childish.

Can you imagine a world where everyone over a certain age behaved in a manner that did not involve any emotion? That was never childish in any way?

People don't work that way, bro. Accept it and get past it. You keep getting stuck in the same place. Look beyond that aspect into the reasons behind the childish actions if the topic interests you.

Or are you only interested in discussing the fact that some people have behaved in a childish manner. Over and over and over and over.....

'logic' is not what we use to make decisions. Logic is how we explain or rationalise our decisions to ourselves. Decision making happens primarily at an unconscious, or pre-conscious level. It might feel like we are following logic to a decision - but very rarely is that actually the case.